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653.1 | | SIMUL8::RAVAN | Tryin' to make it real | Thu Jan 14 1988 14:43 | 4 |
| But, Marty, maybe they are simply taking into account that your
secretary may be male...
-b
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653.2 | Doesn't really matter | SSDEVO::YOUNGER | It's the LAW! 186,000 miles/second | Thu Jan 14 1988 20:34 | 4 |
| Whether his secretary is male, female, or other, why would he/she/it
be buying him underware?
Elizabeth
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653.3 | Burp your boxers | XANADU::RAVAN | Tryin' to make it real | Thu Jan 14 1988 22:16 | 9 |
| Underware? Is that like Tupperware (c)? Hermetically sealed, perhaps?
Rather than ask why the secretary would be buying under-whatever
for the boss, how come the company is sending mail to the boss on
behalf of the secretary? (Maybe they want to be sure that everyone's
secretaries have clean underware - damn! Now you've got *me* doing
it!)
-b
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653.4 | Hmmmmm | CAM2::PAPISON | You see what I'm saying..... | Thu Jan 14 1988 22:23 | 8 |
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Are we getting a little thin skinned??? Mailing list are pretty
generic, and .1 seems to be jumping to the conclusion that by sending
mail to his sec this company is implying presents be bought for
him. If this is so please see that my secretary is on the mailing
lists for Mercedes, BMW, Porsche, etc :-)
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653.5 | Keep Dreaming | APEHUB::STHILAIRE | Food, Shelter & Diamonds | Fri Jan 15 1988 08:34 | 7 |
| Re .0, speaking as a secretary, hell will freeze over before I ever
spend one damn cent on any boss I've ever worked for :-). People
who make 3 and 4 times my pay and treat me like a maid can take
care of their own underwear needs.
Lorna
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653.6 | | SSDEVO::YOUNGER | It's the LAW! 186,000 miles/second | Fri Jan 15 1988 09:25 | 6 |
| I understand about the mailing lists being pretty widespread, but
why does it have to be address to "the secretary of...", rather
than to either the boss himself, or to the secretary if they have
her name?
Elizabeth
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653.7 | It comes down to whose names they have access to | STAR::BECK | Paul Beck | Fri Jan 15 1988 10:14 | 13 |
| re .6
Probably because more "bosses" are on corporate mailing lists than
secretaries. If a mail-order place wants to target secretaries (I
always assumed the L'Eggs mailing was intended to be received by
secretaries for their own purchases), they generally don't have any
other means of addressing them other than as "Secretary to The One
We Have On Our Mailing List".
As to why there are male paraphernalia in the mailing - even
if the assumption is that the secretary is female, it's generally
the case that the "boss" is not the only male in the secretary's
life for whom the additional products may be applicable.
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653.8 | Ain't marketing wonderful? | SCRUFF::CONLIFFE | Better living through software | Fri Jan 15 1988 10:58 | 12 |
| As an aside on mailing lists:
When I worked in ZKO, I had occasion to go down to the local Rdio Shack to
buy a couple of co-ax connectors for our IBM terminals (back in the days when
BTS was a product!).
Some later, in my mailbox at work, I found a radio shack flier addressed to:
Nigel A Conliffe
or family residing at
110, Spitbrook Road,
Nashua NH.
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653.9 | "professional" women get them too | CADSYS::SULLIVAN | Karen - 225-4096 | Fri Jan 15 1988 14:18 | 6 |
| Reminds me of the time I attended a workshop for women in
business. After the workshop, I received advertisments
at work for stockings. Of course with the same error in
spelling my name as the workshop had. How professional.
...Karen
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653.10 | You can sell my name, but you can't sell me. | TRCO01::GAYNE | Cappucino anyone? | Mon Jan 18 1988 12:21 | 19 |
| I believe .7 is correct. The company is targetting the secretary,
not the boss. And I am sure they addressed it to the secretary because
they are targetting women and making the assumption that most
secretaries are women.
It is interesting, how general these mail-order sales things get.
I am male, my first name is Leslie, which can be both male and female.
So I get a lot of stuff intended for women. I know the stuff is
for women because I will be addressed as Ms. or Miss.
As an aside, almost all mailing lists can be purchased. If you
subscribe to any magazine, have gone to any trade show, shown up
at a "new housing development" where you are kindly asked to sign
the guset book, chances are your name has been sold to someone.
When ordering a magazine subscription you can request that your
name NOT be sold.
/Les
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653.11 | who wears the underpants in this office! | 3D::CHABOT | Rooms 253, '5, '7, and '9 | Thu Jan 21 1988 16:37 | 3 |
| Some people have also been making assumptions about "the boss": after
all, maybe she wears men's underwear and maybe she doesn't.
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653.12 | "sock" it to them | EDUHCI::WARREN | | Fri Apr 08 1988 10:57 | 11 |
| I think Paul had L'eggs figured right. Not as many companies "bother"
to maintain lists of secretaries as lists of "executives," so this
is a way to hit the secretaries...who are, of course, women and who
are, of course, the purchasers of underwear for their families. grrr
And I bet it's been a very effective marketing ploy.
-Tracy
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653.13 | I'm surprised they don't also mail to "wife of" | EDUHCI::WARREN | | Fri Apr 08 1988 11:01 | 1 |
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