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Conference turris::womannotes-v1

Title:ARCHIVE-- Topics of Interest to Women, Volume 1 --ARCHIVE
Notice:V1 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:REGENT::BROOMHEAD
Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:873
Total number of notes:22329

639.0. "Responses by men to Note 637" by MEWVAX::AUGUSTINE () Tue Jan 05 1988 15:29

    
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PARSEC::THOMPSON "Steven Dana DTN 247-2191"          10 lines   5-JAN-1988 14:49
                      -< Must_It_Be_Simplicity_ALWAYS_? >-
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    Perhaps this describes the REAL social problem in America.
    
    A meeting with someone sexy� need not preclude flirtation
    as an enjoyable interaction.  However it seems every male
    noter out there wants flirtation reduced to the simplicity
    of a binary (Yes/No) like choices on a computerized menu.
    
  ~--e--~  Eagles_Enjoy_Watching_+_Waiting_Without_Lust_4_Goals_!

�  "sexy" today may not mean "of the opposite sex" necessarily.
    
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639.1Maybe We Can Try AgainFDCV03::ROSSTue Jan 05 1988 15:5125
    RE: .1
    
    Since I'm male, I'll try to clarify in this note (although I already
    broke my own "female-only" response request in 637.2, but what the
    hell, life's too short to worry about such trivial details.)
    
    The key phrase I was trying to address in my original 637.0 note
    contained the words: 
    
       We put on our heels and went out for a walk
       More for a drink and to have a few eyes on us
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Stated succinctly, are there some women who enjoy being "women-
    watched", particularly in a casual atmosphere (in the song's setting,
    a lounge/nightclub)? And, originally unasked, but implied never-the-less,
    are there some women who will openly acknowledge this enjoyment?
    
    That's it. No hidden meanings, no secret agendas. I wasn't looking
    for guidance/direction in (mis)reading signals. I'm usually pretty
    good at determining what's being non-verbally said to me, although
    once every 10 or 15 years or so, I must admit I have been known to
    be wrong. :-)
    
      Alan  
639.2Me Confused? NaaaaaaaFDCV03::ROSSTue Jan 05 1988 15:597
    > RE: .1
    
    Make that, RE: .0 (who was responding to 637.1).
    
    Boy, these dual-sex notes do get confusing at times.
    
      Alan
639.4You've AnsweredFDCV03::ROSSWed Jan 06 1988 11:2216
    RE: 637.4
    
    Liz, I understood your point that some women do not like to be
    ogled. I acknowledged that fact in my 637.0 when I wrote:
    
     > From what's been written in this and other Conferences, as well
     > as statements made in the "outside" world, there are some women
     > who are not happy with men noticing them only *as women*. (I may
     > be saying that badly, but at this moment, I can't think of a
     > better way to put it.)
    
    However, my question remains: Are there some women who are pleased
    with, poetically put, "Having A Few Eyes On Them" (aka ogling)?
    
      Alan  
                                    
639.6Withrawl Of My RequestFDCV03::ROSSWed Jan 06 1988 17:3520
I am rescinding my request that only women respond to Note 637.

The only reason I made that request initially, was that I didn't want
women to feel they couldn't write freely there, without getting into
an endless series of arguments from some of the men.

Also, because the subject itself was directed toward women, I thought men
would have no real reason for responding to questions that only women
could answer.

Yet, I now see that having two separate notes may accomplish nothing
more than create additional confusion. It does seem to be getting
unwieldy.

Moderators, please write-lock Note 639, and if it's possible, could
you move whatever entries are here to Note 637?

Thanks.

  Alan                                         
639.7replyYAZOO::B_REINKEwhere the sidewalk endsWed Jan 06 1988 18:314
    On Alan's request I have set this note no write...I encourage
    everyone to continue to respond to the topic in note 637.
    Bonnie J]
    moderator