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Conference turris::womannotes-v1

Title:ARCHIVE-- Topics of Interest to Women, Volume 1 --ARCHIVE
Notice:V1 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:REGENT::BROOMHEAD
Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:873
Total number of notes:22329

583.0. "when a moderator notes" by YAZOO::B_REINKE (where the sidewalk ends) Wed Dec 09 1987 23:59

    I am curious...when people see my name or Maggie's on
    a note do you assume that we are speaking as a moderator
    as our selves?  I have always assumed that a moderator is
    only a member of a file unless speaking as a moderator...
    
    Do other people regard moderators in the same light or do
    you think that every time we speak we are laying down
    policy?
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583.1A different ideaSNOC01::RONIOTISThu Dec 10 1987 01:5412
    I must be honest and say , I never treat anyone as a moderator I
    mean we are all free , and free to speak what we wish. No matter
    who is listening or looking. I must say being a moderator is just
    the same as being a leader in your own little world. You choose
    to select a note and hope for the best. Sort of a gamble if you
    ask me. 
    
    The real way to winning a place in everyone's heart would be to
    treat yourself or rather view yourself as a down to earth person
    not a leader. Don't get me wrong I'm not knocking the moderator's
    but I am only placing forward the feeling's of probably all the
    other note reader's.
583.2AKOV11::BOYAJIANThe Dread Pirate RobertsThu Dec 10 1987 06:0011
    Generally speaking, I assume a note from you or Maggie (or any
    moderator in any conference) is personal contribution to the
    discussion rather than Edicts From Above. The only exceptions
    would be in topics that are clearly conference moderation topics
    (such as, say, Topic #1).
    
    Most of the time, moderator intervention elsewhere is obvious,
    like notes saying "This topic is set no-write; continue discussion
    in Note #nn."
    
    --- jerry
583.3VAXRT::CANNOYThere are no fnords in the ads.Thu Dec 10 1987 09:0610
    I also always assume the person is speaking for herself, unless
    the note says differently.
    
    In Human_Relations, I always sign my name something like, 
    Tamzen_co-moderator, and state at the beginning of the note that
    I am acting as a moderator.
    
    I think Bonnie and Maggie also do a good job of this.
    
    Tamzen
583.4it's not confusing for me.38636::AUGUSTINEWhat do humanitarians eat?Thu Dec 10 1987 09:355
    So far, it hasn't been confusing for me. It does help clarify "who you
    are" when you say what role you're playing, but that usually isn't
    strictly necessary.
    
    liz 
583.5show us the fang marks on your...;-)SPMFG1::CHARBONNDI took my hands off the wheelThu Dec 10 1987 09:383
    re .0 Since you are brave enough and crazy enough to moderate this
    conference, I always regard you with the respect due to a veteran
    lion-tamer. Kudos for a job well done.  Dana
583.6CALLME::MR_TOPAZThu Dec 10 1987 11:354
       I couldn't figure out whether 582.0 is from B Reinke the Noter
       or B Reinke the Moderator.  
       
       --Mr Topaz
583.7YAZOO::B_REINKEwhere the sidewalk endsThu Dec 10 1987 11:391
    noter
583.9Keep on keepin' onHANDY::MALLETTSituation hopless but not seriousThu Dec 10 1987 12:5510
    I agree with Gale (.8).  My impression is that when you all
    are in "moderator mode" you qualify it appropriately.  As an
    aside, I also agree with the notion that you must be a) extremely
    brave, b) extremely masochistic, c) just plain nuts, or some
    combination thereof.
    
    Steve (who's preparing to moderate a Notes conference in Q4; I 
    plan to prepare for this by hiring Don Rickles to tell me exactly
    what he thinks of me. . .)
    
583.10SMEGIT::BALLAMThu Dec 10 1987 12:566
    One more voice in agreement.  
    
    Except when you specifically sign your note as MODERATOR,
    I assume you're writing as yourSELF.
    
    Karen
583.11People don't always think what they think they thinkVCQUAL::THOMPSONNoter at largeThu Dec 10 1987 14:0022
    When you think about it it's pretty obvious that a moderator is
    a Noter and that they're not always acting in the moderator role.
    From personal experience, I believe that a lot of people don't think
    about it and think that, for example, Bonnie == moderator. I think
    it also depends on the type of reply. For example, I could say that
    I don't think that a topic belongs in a conference. If I said that
    in this conference it would be taken as just the opinion of one
    noter. Now if I said it in one of the conferences I moderate what
    is it? The opinion of a Noter or the voice of 'authority'? As others
    do I try and make it clear when I write as moderator. However, there
    are times when I want to suggest a second or better place for a
    topic but *not* issue it as a moderator request. Different people
    will take that different ways. 
    
    When a person who happens to be a moderator says "I think that
    {someone} should do {something} with this {what ever}" some people
    are going to take it as the voice of 'authority' even if that's
    not the intent. It may not even be a conscious thought on the readers
    part but it happens a lot. What should be and what is are not always
    the same thing.
    
    			Alfred
583.12CADSE::GLIDEWELLThu Dec 10 1987 19:419
.0   B_REINKE 

>    I have always assumed that a moderator is
>    only a member of a file unless speaking as a moderator...

Me too.  Except when you wear your noter hat and comment 
on the file, I listen harder.  Moderating gives you experiece 
that I don't have.

583.13thanks to those who have written so farYAZOO::B_REINKEwhere the sidewalk endsThu Dec 10 1987 20:305
    by the way the reason that I entered this note was because a friend
    had told me by mail that people equated Maggie's and my personal
    statements with modertors setting the agenda of the file and thus
    they felt the file was heavily and narrowly moderated...it is nice
    to know that such opinions are not in the majority.
583.14House RulesVLS4::COSTAThu Dec 10 1987 21:0211
    
    	I can tell when a moderator is moderating. Its easy. There are
    more capital letters in the note. 8-]
    
    	Sort of like being in two places at the same time, or is that
    being two times in the same place?
    
    	Both Maggie and yourself have great replies, you two should
    feel comfortable as moderators.
    
        Dave 
583.15Hmm actually ... probably another noter .. till ..BETA::EARLYBob_the_HikerFri Dec 11 1987 13:0819
    re: .0
    
    When I get my "reply" back in the form of a deleted note, with some
    sort of words attached to it "by THE moderator"; then I see you
    (you = moderator(s) ) a moderator.
    
    When I read your words attached to or creating a new topic UNrelated
    to the "READ or PERISH introductions" ; I see you as a person; possibly
    a candidate for one of the OTHER moderators to trash your notes,
    freeze your terminal, and lambaste your protocol into proper
    subservience called "the appropriate context".
    
    Actually, in getting some of my notes (replys) returned to me; I
    learn some cute phrases to use on persons who "VIOLATE" 'MY FILE'.
    
    Is this topic necessary Bonnie ?
    
    Bob 'going  for broke ... ' +3
    
583.16glerfYAZOO::B_REINKEwhere the sidewalk endsSat Dec 12 1987 19:5911
    Bob, yes I guess it was necessary..in that the fact that someone
    suggested that the moderators writings were perceived as being
    other than just stating their personal feelings...in that I know
    that is not the case, the note helped educate me...and I thank 
    all of those that responded..
    
    and I sign this ...as I should have done my response to Mr_Topaz's
    note..
    
    Bonnie Jeanne ....the person  :-)
    
583.17Writing as a Noter/ModeratorCSC32::JOHNSYes, I *am* pregnant :-)Mon Dec 14 1987 16:2710
    Well, confession time.  I KNOW when a (good) moderator is being
    a "moderator" because she signs herself as such.  This is the case
    with this file.  However, I seem to read anything by Maggie or Bonnie
    with extra attention, not just because I like their ideas, which
    I do, but because they are moderators.  Occasionally, then, even
    though they have not written as "moderators", I give more weight
    to what they say, as if they are "half-moderators".  :-}
    
    I sure hope this makes sense.
                                       Carol