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583.1 | A different idea | SNOC01::RONIOTIS | | Thu Dec 10 1987 01:54 | 12 |
| I must be honest and say , I never treat anyone as a moderator I
mean we are all free , and free to speak what we wish. No matter
who is listening or looking. I must say being a moderator is just
the same as being a leader in your own little world. You choose
to select a note and hope for the best. Sort of a gamble if you
ask me.
The real way to winning a place in everyone's heart would be to
treat yourself or rather view yourself as a down to earth person
not a leader. Don't get me wrong I'm not knocking the moderator's
but I am only placing forward the feeling's of probably all the
other note reader's.
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583.2 | | AKOV11::BOYAJIAN | The Dread Pirate Roberts | Thu Dec 10 1987 06:00 | 11 |
| Generally speaking, I assume a note from you or Maggie (or any
moderator in any conference) is personal contribution to the
discussion rather than Edicts From Above. The only exceptions
would be in topics that are clearly conference moderation topics
(such as, say, Topic #1).
Most of the time, moderator intervention elsewhere is obvious,
like notes saying "This topic is set no-write; continue discussion
in Note #nn."
--- jerry
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583.3 | | VAXRT::CANNOY | There are no fnords in the ads. | Thu Dec 10 1987 09:06 | 10 |
| I also always assume the person is speaking for herself, unless
the note says differently.
In Human_Relations, I always sign my name something like,
Tamzen_co-moderator, and state at the beginning of the note that
I am acting as a moderator.
I think Bonnie and Maggie also do a good job of this.
Tamzen
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583.4 | it's not confusing for me. | 38636::AUGUSTINE | What do humanitarians eat? | Thu Dec 10 1987 09:35 | 5 |
| So far, it hasn't been confusing for me. It does help clarify "who you
are" when you say what role you're playing, but that usually isn't
strictly necessary.
liz
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583.5 | show us the fang marks on your...;-) | SPMFG1::CHARBONND | I took my hands off the wheel | Thu Dec 10 1987 09:38 | 3 |
| re .0 Since you are brave enough and crazy enough to moderate this
conference, I always regard you with the respect due to a veteran
lion-tamer. Kudos for a job well done. Dana
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583.6 | | CALLME::MR_TOPAZ | | Thu Dec 10 1987 11:35 | 4 |
| I couldn't figure out whether 582.0 is from B Reinke the Noter
or B Reinke the Moderator.
--Mr Topaz
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583.7 | | YAZOO::B_REINKE | where the sidewalk ends | Thu Dec 10 1987 11:39 | 1 |
| noter
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583.9 | Keep on keepin' on | HANDY::MALLETT | Situation hopless but not serious | Thu Dec 10 1987 12:55 | 10 |
| I agree with Gale (.8). My impression is that when you all
are in "moderator mode" you qualify it appropriately. As an
aside, I also agree with the notion that you must be a) extremely
brave, b) extremely masochistic, c) just plain nuts, or some
combination thereof.
Steve (who's preparing to moderate a Notes conference in Q4; I
plan to prepare for this by hiring Don Rickles to tell me exactly
what he thinks of me. . .)
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583.10 | | SMEGIT::BALLAM | | Thu Dec 10 1987 12:56 | 6 |
| One more voice in agreement.
Except when you specifically sign your note as MODERATOR,
I assume you're writing as yourSELF.
Karen
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583.11 | People don't always think what they think they think | VCQUAL::THOMPSON | Noter at large | Thu Dec 10 1987 14:00 | 22 |
| When you think about it it's pretty obvious that a moderator is
a Noter and that they're not always acting in the moderator role.
From personal experience, I believe that a lot of people don't think
about it and think that, for example, Bonnie == moderator. I think
it also depends on the type of reply. For example, I could say that
I don't think that a topic belongs in a conference. If I said that
in this conference it would be taken as just the opinion of one
noter. Now if I said it in one of the conferences I moderate what
is it? The opinion of a Noter or the voice of 'authority'? As others
do I try and make it clear when I write as moderator. However, there
are times when I want to suggest a second or better place for a
topic but *not* issue it as a moderator request. Different people
will take that different ways.
When a person who happens to be a moderator says "I think that
{someone} should do {something} with this {what ever}" some people
are going to take it as the voice of 'authority' even if that's
not the intent. It may not even be a conscious thought on the readers
part but it happens a lot. What should be and what is are not always
the same thing.
Alfred
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583.12 | | CADSE::GLIDEWELL | | Thu Dec 10 1987 19:41 | 9 |
| .0 B_REINKE
> I have always assumed that a moderator is
> only a member of a file unless speaking as a moderator...
Me too. Except when you wear your noter hat and comment
on the file, I listen harder. Moderating gives you experiece
that I don't have.
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583.13 | thanks to those who have written so far | YAZOO::B_REINKE | where the sidewalk ends | Thu Dec 10 1987 20:30 | 5 |
| by the way the reason that I entered this note was because a friend
had told me by mail that people equated Maggie's and my personal
statements with modertors setting the agenda of the file and thus
they felt the file was heavily and narrowly moderated...it is nice
to know that such opinions are not in the majority.
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583.14 | House Rules | VLS4::COSTA | | Thu Dec 10 1987 21:02 | 11 |
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I can tell when a moderator is moderating. Its easy. There are
more capital letters in the note. 8-]
Sort of like being in two places at the same time, or is that
being two times in the same place?
Both Maggie and yourself have great replies, you two should
feel comfortable as moderators.
Dave
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583.15 | Hmm actually ... probably another noter .. till .. | BETA::EARLY | Bob_the_Hiker | Fri Dec 11 1987 13:08 | 19 |
| re: .0
When I get my "reply" back in the form of a deleted note, with some
sort of words attached to it "by THE moderator"; then I see you
(you = moderator(s) ) a moderator.
When I read your words attached to or creating a new topic UNrelated
to the "READ or PERISH introductions" ; I see you as a person; possibly
a candidate for one of the OTHER moderators to trash your notes,
freeze your terminal, and lambaste your protocol into proper
subservience called "the appropriate context".
Actually, in getting some of my notes (replys) returned to me; I
learn some cute phrases to use on persons who "VIOLATE" 'MY FILE'.
Is this topic necessary Bonnie ?
Bob 'going for broke ... ' +3
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583.16 | glerf | YAZOO::B_REINKE | where the sidewalk ends | Sat Dec 12 1987 19:59 | 11 |
| Bob, yes I guess it was necessary..in that the fact that someone
suggested that the moderators writings were perceived as being
other than just stating their personal feelings...in that I know
that is not the case, the note helped educate me...and I thank
all of those that responded..
and I sign this ...as I should have done my response to Mr_Topaz's
note..
Bonnie Jeanne ....the person :-)
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583.17 | Writing as a Noter/Moderator | CSC32::JOHNS | Yes, I *am* pregnant :-) | Mon Dec 14 1987 16:27 | 10 |
| Well, confession time. I KNOW when a (good) moderator is being
a "moderator" because she signs herself as such. This is the case
with this file. However, I seem to read anything by Maggie or Bonnie
with extra attention, not just because I like their ideas, which
I do, but because they are moderators. Occasionally, then, even
though they have not written as "moderators", I give more weight
to what they say, as if they are "half-moderators". :-}
I sure hope this makes sense.
Carol
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