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520.1 | | DIEHRD::MAHLER | Yugo's for Yo Yo's | Fri Oct 16 1987 19:05 | 8 |
|
Threre is a type of infection that does
not respond to standard anti-biotics. There
is a new drug called FLAGYL that seems to work
very well. It tastes ilke hell though and leaves a
mettalic taste in your mouth. Ask your doctor about it.
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520.2 | | DIEHRD::MAHLER | Yugo's for Yo Yo's | Fri Oct 16 1987 19:06 | 10 |
|
By the way, your boyfriend will have to
take it also. Some types of yeats infections are
caused by bacterium that men carry [contracted from
women] but that shows no signs [and is harmless]
in men's bodies. If you gave it to your boyfriend,
then he is giving it back to you after you've taken
the medication.
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520.3 | | MEWVAX::AUGUSTINE | | Fri Oct 16 1987 19:26 | 15 |
| A suggestion and some questions:
- Look at "the new our bodies ourselves" for other ideas
(though it sounds like you've educated yourself pretty well on
this)
- is it possible for men to have symptoms of these infections?
(and if so, what are the symptoms)
- is it possible for women NOT to have symptoms?
Thanks for any more info that can be offered.
liz
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520.5 | Worth trying? | EUCLID::FRASER | Crocodile sandwich & make it snappy! | Fri Oct 16 1987 20:31 | 12 |
| This may sound dumb, but it worked for my ex a few years ago -
bathe the naughty bits in yoghurt morning and night for a few
days...
Seems that the alkalinity of the yoghurt counteracts the
acidity of the vagina ( I may have that the wrong way round),
whatever, it works.
Andy
Ps, we used plain, unflavoured yoghurt, and this was at the
suggestion of a 'nature' specialist....FWIW.
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520.6 | Kinda like an 8 month long headache.... :-( :-) | QBUS::FINK | Time for a Dandelion Break!! | Fri Oct 16 1987 21:08 | 23 |
| � < Note 520.2 by DIEHRD::MAHLER "Yugo's for Yo Yo's" >
� If you gave it to your boyfriend,
� then he is giving it back to you after you've taken
� the medication.
I wish it were that simple. We haven't been able to *do* any-
thing since all this started, due to her having pain, tenderness,
etc. major :-( :-(
Her doctor did give me some pills to take a couple of months
ago, just in case it was what you are referring to. But, as
I said, it's a moot point.
Thanks for the ideas though. We'll keep trying.
-Rich
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520.7 | from a previous sufferer | YAZOO::B_REINKE | where the sidewalk ends | Fri Oct 16 1987 22:11 | 28 |
| When I was first married I had one of these infections...
and I can *deeply* sympathasize with the author of .6 ...
when a woman has one of these yeast infections the way I did
and the way his SO does...*everything* hurts!!!
I would also recommend the yoghurt cure. I didn't have to use
that (gentian violet cured me....and wrecked two sets of
marriage present sheets and one matress!) and also if nothing
else works...go to a holistic practitioner that can give you
a diet that takes you off all yeast products all together.
(I know that therapy has been mentioned in this file before
but right now I do not remember where...anyone?) Yoghurt
(plain) is often recommended for women who have been on
antibiotics which killed the normal vaginal microbial population
allowing the yeast infection to take hold.
By the way ...the doctor that cured me told me that vinegar
douches are the *worst* thing to use when you have a yeast infection
because the yeast thrive on acid.
I don't think that it is possible to imagine how much discomfort
this kind of infection causes if you have never had it.
and thank you Mike Mahler for your helpful suggestions.
Bonnie
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520.8 | Lye and bottle brushes ;-( | VAXRT::CANNOY | The seasons change and so do I. | Fri Oct 16 1987 22:36 | 34 |
| RE: .1
The drug FLAGYL is not for yeast infections. It is given for
trichomoniasis, and other infections caused by flagellate protozoa.
It does make things taste awful for about half a day after you take
it, and yes it is necessary for both partners to take it.
RE: .0
Sigh, boy can I sympathize! For three or four years I rarely went 4
weeks without an infection. I found the best treatment for me (on
the okay of my doctor after nothing seemed to help) was to douche
every other day with boric acid. You can buy the powder in the drug
store and I would make it just slightly stronger than eye-wash
strength. I read about this in several "feminist" women's health
books.
I believe now that my yeast infections were caused by the partner I had
at the time. He had chronic prostatitis, which cannot be cured BTW, and
I believe he was constantly reinfecting me. The prostate is basically a
large sponge-like collection of cells, and there is no way to "clean"
it up, if it gets this type of prostatitis. I also had trich a couple
of times and believe the reinfections were also due to this. I have
only had a couple infections in the 6 or so years since.
I would also recommend the total elimination of any fermented products
from your diet. See a good holistic doctor to help you plan this.
I have had several friends who upon eliminating all breads, cheeses,
wines, beers, soy souce, etc. have had remarkable inprovements in
their yeast infections and general health.
I wish you good luck finding some relief. I've been there.
Tamzen
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520.9 | | DIEHRD::MAHLER | Yugo's for Yo Yo's | Sat Oct 17 1987 10:27 | 8 |
| Thank you for looking that up. When I had the displeasure of
taking FLAGYL it was because of an infection 'the other' had that
was THOUGHT to be a yeast infection but which turned out to be
trichomoniasis instead and also caused as much, maybe more, pain
than a yeast infection. It took a LONG time for it to go away and
also was a real inconvenience as i'm sure .0 is experiencing.
This infection shows severe symptoms in women but not in men.
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520.10 | Thank you! Thank you!, etc... | WARLRD::CFLETCHER | Short Stuff | Sat Oct 17 1987 11:28 | 14 |
|
Wow!
I didn't expect so may replys this soon! Thank you so very much
for all your help! I'm going to go to the store today and try the
yougurt and boric acid stuff. I'll leave the special diet as a
last resort.
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!
Y'all have a great weekend!
Corinne (-:
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520.11 | Maybe more than 1 infection | FRSBEE::GIUNTA | | Mon Oct 19 1987 09:50 | 16 |
| I've had the same problems. My doctor treated me for a yeast
infection, and it just never went away. It turned out that I had
2 infections -- one was a yeast infection and the other was a flagyl
vaginal infection. I ended up taking the big blue pills for the
flagyl infection and usind the cream that the doctor prescribed
(Monistat 9) for the yeast infection. Until they both got treated
at the same time, I couldn't get rid of the problem. I had my
infections for several months, which didn't please my husband too
much, although fortunately I had not transmitted the flagyl infection
to him, so we didn't keep reinfecting each other. Try asking your
doctor if you might have more than one infection. If he or she
stopped looking after diagnosing the yeast infection, there may
be another infection there that hasn't been found yet.
Good luck.
Cathy
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520.12 | Diet seemed to cure my roommate | CADSYS::RICHARDSON | | Mon Oct 19 1987 13:40 | 8 |
| One of my college roommates used to get yeast infections constantly
- she was really miserable over it. She finally went on a special
diet of no fermented products (also no cheese; she ate a lot of
yoghurt) and eventually it cleared up. So maybe there is something
to the diet theory. (I've never had one of these yeast infections;
I must be lucky.)
Good luck!
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520.13 | a thousand sympathies.... | GNUVAX::BOBBITT | face piles of trials with smiles | Mon Oct 19 1987 14:23 | 36 |
| boy did that hit a panic button with me. I first encountered my
particular foe when I was 18. I had to insert nasty pills, and
it was awful, but it sent away. Then I began to get them regularly
(once a month) just before my period. Things that make them worse
include: being on The Pill, being on corticosteroid drugs (I have
asthma), being on any kind of penicillin (which kill your body's
defenses in there - it's not too particular about the difference
between "good bacteria" and "bad bacteria"), wearing nylon underwear,
not washing too frequently, eating fermented stuff, etc, etc.
My solution? 2 Tbs plain yogurt (very fresh, homemade if possible,
and NOT lowfat - that has less power) in 2 quarts warm water. Douche
with it once a day. From what I've heard, the acidophilus
(lactobacillus) in the yoghurt kind of puts up an "organic warfare"
inside, controlling the yeasties (in my case it was candidas albicans),
and fortifying your body's natural defenses.
Also, the infection not only caused me pain and tenderness inside,
but caused sores outside, which were easily treated with mild
hydrocortisone. Also, a cream which you can "inject" to kill candidas
is called "mycelex" (I think).
After having had it for so long, and realizing I'm never going to
completely get rid of it, I have come to know the early symptoms,
and am relieved that the hormonal changes that come with my period
generally get rid of it if other measures haven't. My SO is really
understanding about it, which helps.
Also, a BIG factor which triggered mine was STRESS. This lowers
the body's resistance to many infections. If you're really STRESSED
OUT, you might want to add some relaxation techniques.
good luck, and be well
-Jody
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520.14 | If you get sick of yogurt... | VAXWRK::GOLDENBERG | Ruth Goldenberg | Mon Oct 19 1987 18:21 | 16 |
| You might also try getting lactobacillus bacteria from acidopholus capsules,
which you can get from a health food store or maybe even a well-stocked
drugstore.
Whenever I take antibiotics, I always take 1-2 acidopholus capsules at
the same time and also eat yogurt. That does seem to help prevent
yeast infections resulting from the antibiotics killing all the usual
other stuff that keeps the yeast in check.
With respect to store-bought yogurt, my understanding is that you
should be sure that the package says it contains active cultures.
Otherwise, there may be no live lactobacillus bacteria in it to help
you out.
in sympathy,
reg
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520.15 | A few mistakes, so far. | SSDEVO::YOUNGER | There are no misteakes | Mon Oct 19 1987 19:24 | 30 |
| Re (.2, .3)
Yeast infections are *not* caused by any kind of bacterium. Yeast
infections are caused by yeast, bacterial infections are caused
by bacterium, and Trichimonias infections are caused by Trichimonias
protozoa. It is possible to have more than one type of infection
at a given time though.
Flagel is dangerous, according to, among other sources, _Our Bodies,
Our Selves_. They suggest that women *not* take this drug, unless
everything else has failed. Also, taking Flagel can *cause* a yeast
infection to flair up.
I am constantly amazed about the ignorance of many doctors. A doctor
I once had treated a yeast infection with antibiotics - further
killing the defenses against yeast. I ended up with a systemic
yeast infection that did not go away, even with anti-fungal drugs
and the "yeast free" special diet for many months.
Another cause not yet mentioned for yeast infections is too frequent
douching, especially with "cosmetic" douches - you know, the kind
that are scented with ****, and make you "feel fresh". In fact,
women who get yeast infections are usually people who keep themselves
fastidiously clean.
Douching with an acidic douche will often help, especially in mild
cases. Vinegar or Boric acid both serve this purpose. Boric acid
can be made into suppositories and used for this purpose also.
Elizabeth
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520.16 | let us research the vinegar/acid connection | STUBBI::B_REINKE | where the sidewalk ends | Mon Oct 19 1987 23:39 | 6 |
| Before we go any further on the acid douche business... I would
really like to check with a good gyn. The doctor who cured me
told me that the vinegar douches I had been using at the advice
of my internist had encouraged the yeast infection to grow and
it was as bad as it was (which was *awful*) *because* I had
been using vinegar.
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520.17 | I is confused also... | WARLRD::CFLETCHER | Short Stuff | Tue Oct 20 1987 09:10 | 19 |
|
Same here! My GYN had me using the vinegar douches - ??? I'm confused.
I have to go to the dermatologist tomorrow, and I'm going to ask
him about all the suggestions here, and see what he thinks. If
he gets offended, I'll go home and try the stuff, and find another
doctor. (I think he'll work with me though, he's a nice guy).
My mom says that when she was my age, she had the same problem with
yeast infections, and her doctor used the genitian violet to finally
get rid of it. I'll ask what he thinks of vinegar douching also.
Hopefully I'll have some good news soon. Sigh....
Once again, Thank you very much!
Corinne
(-:
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520.18 | VAGINAL INFECTIONS AND CONDOMS | RUTLND::TROCONIS | | Tue Oct 20 1987 13:13 | 12 |
| I too, was finally cured with gentian violet after a full year of
miscellaneous creams, suppositories, douches.
The one thing I haven't seen here is avoidance of transmission via
the use of condoms. Yeast infections are passed back and forth.
Men, however, do not have any symptoms. I strongly suggest that
your SO use condoms while you are on medication and for at least
a month after your infection has cleared up.
If your SO was not circumscised, you should consider using condoms
on a regular basis. Uncircumscised men tend to harbor bacteria
and yeast type infections without any symptoms.
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520.19 | What's Genitian Violet? | WARLRD::CFLETCHER | Short Stuff | Tue Oct 20 1987 14:44 | 9 |
|
Just incase my doctor isn't familiar with it, what is Genitian Violet,
and how is it applied? My mom remembers it as a purple liquid,
but not much else.
Thanks!!!!
Corinne
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520.20 | nasty purple stuff :-} | YAZOO::B_REINKE | where the sidewalk ends | Tue Oct 20 1987 15:19 | 2 |
| It is a dye, and it is applied in the form of suppositories
or the doctor can "paint" the patient with it. It stains everything!
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520.21 | more about yogurt | MARX::GIBEAU | Donna Rosenthal Gibeau | Tue Oct 20 1987 16:40 | 18 |
| Corinne,
My doctor once told me that the only kind of yogurt that was
good for yeast infections is the NON-PASTEURIZED kind you get
in health food stores. Apparently, pasteurizing removes some
of the bacteria/culture that's beneficial to yeast infections.
Have you ever had an infection where the doctor prescribed
a creme that gets "injected" into the vagina? The medication
comes in a tube (like toothpaste). A special plunger is
screwed onto the end of the medication tube. You squeeze the
tube until the plunger fills up with creme. You then "inject"
the creme. He said the yogurt is used in this same way. It's
not applied <to> the vagina, but <into> it...
Ask your doctor about this, too.
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520.22 | want a copy of the diet? | HARDY::HENDRICKS | Not another learning experience! | Tue Oct 20 1987 19:51 | 19 |
| I just talked to my doctor today about a similar problem. She
has been encouraging me to try the Candida diet for quite a while
now (just for one week!) to see if it makes a difference. She gave
me a copy -- if you want to look at it, send me mail, and I will
send you a copy. It's straightforward enough.
According to her, even doing it a week at a time can make a big
difference to some people.
She also thought the fact that I constantly crave fermented foods
(soy sauce, nuts, wine, cheese...) and sugar was a sign that it
may well be Candida.
She also gave me a book to read called "The Yest Syndrome" (I
think...it's out in the car). Has anyone read it? What do you
think?
Holly
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520.23 | | CADSE::HARDING | | Wed Oct 21 1987 09:01 | 9 |
|
Men can get the symptoms also. One thing my wifes gynecologist told
me was that if the woman to man to woman cycle gets started and
the man is uncircumcised it becomes very hard to cure. In this
case the man becomes the major carrier and in some cases the men
have to be circumcised to get the infection stopped.
dave
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520.24 | | NEWPRT::NEWELL | On the outside looking in... | Wed Oct 21 1987 17:01 | 6 |
| A friend of mine who suffers from frequent yeast infections
says she dips a tampax into yogurt and puts it in before
she retires at night.
She also mentioned she labels her *special* yogurt so no one
finishes it off when she's not around.
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520.25 | | GENRAL::SURVIL | Best when eaten before this date | Wed Oct 21 1987 18:08 | 6 |
|
Thank you for sharing that with us...
(Bllllllaakkkkkkk)
Where's the formfeed?
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520.27 | "A DIET THAT SEEMS TO BE WORKING" | TALLIS::RICKARD | | Thu Oct 22 1987 10:40 | 39 |
| I recently went through a stage where I craved sugar and devoured
as much as I possibly could get for two days. When I ran out of
sugar I started with the alcohol - beer, whiskey. The third day
I had a serious yeast infection! Fortunately I had recently discussed
these nasty infections with a friend who recommended Dr Crooks book
"The Yeast Connection". I actually rushed out and bought it. That
day, September 13, I began a serious diet which eliminates all sugar,
yeast products, fruit, and anything that quickly turns to sugar during
the digestive process - complex carbohydrates. This leaves many
meats (lean), fish, fresh vegetables. I should have done this for
about three weeks and then started to test out whether I am allergic
to yeast by taking brewers yeast - BUT I get serious yeast infections
also by swimming in public pools and I'm taking a scuba refresher
course in a pool so I've remained on the diet. My yeast infection
has subsided as a result of the diet though the pool is causing
a little problem.
I have been a chocoholic for most of my life and I've suffered from
yeast infections since I took tetracycline in the early '70s.
I've had such serious infections that I get migraine headaches too.
Even my ears get involved! Though I'm still in the experimental
stages I believe that the significant change in my diet is helping.
Getting rid of a yeast infection and the yeast colonies is a long
process according to the case studies mentioned in "The Yeast
Connection". I'm very tired of treating the symptoms and am after
the cause this time.
A nice side effect of this diet - I've lost 10 pounds since I began
on 9/13 and am still losing! I had set a goal of losing 15 pounds
by Christmas, looks like I'll have done it by Thanksgiving! It is
an easy diet, I eat very well and in addition am taking a lot of
vitamines (not megadoses), minerals, and a few strange substances like
primrose oil, garlic, bee pollen, ginger root, selenium.
Next month I start experimenting with the brewer's yeast and
adding a glass of wine or a cookie to my menu. I can hardly wait!
Pam
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520.28 | yogurt is yeast infested milk | TFH::MARSHALL | hunting the snark | Thu Oct 22 1987 13:13 | 9 |
| re .24:
what is the theory behind that "treatment"?
/
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520.29 | as it was explained to me | YAZOO::B_REINKE | where the sidewalk ends | Thu Oct 22 1987 13:24 | 7 |
| Apparently the monilia (the type of yeast that causes the infection)
will thrive in the absence of normal body flora and fauna. For
example many women get one of these infections first when they
go on a broad spectrum antibiotic...
The yoghurt treatment appears to establish a population of
benign organisms that drive out the others.
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520.32 | Hypothesis on vinegar vs. yeast infections | VAXWRK::GOLDENBERG | Ruth Goldenberg | Thu Oct 22 1987 14:44 | 26 |
| re .16, .17
On page 518, the _New Our Bodies, Ourselves_ says about yeast infections:
Candida grows best in a mildly acidic environment. The pH in
the vagina is normally more than mildly acidic (4.0 to 5.0)
except when we take birth control pills or some antibiotics,
are pregnant, have diabetes, and when we menstruate (when
the pH rises to between 5.8 and 6.8, because blood is
alkaline). Obviously, we often find ourselves with a vaginal
pH favorable to monilia.
Elsewhere on the same page it also says that diets high in refined
carbohydrates can radically chagne the normal pH of the vagina,
making it less acidic.
Suppose, as a result of any of the above possibilities and whatever others
there are, one had a pH that was *less* than mildly acidic, maybe
neutral or even slightly alkaline. Perhaps in a case like that,
using a vinegar douche would create just the mildly acidic environment
that yeast like.
Also, all vinegar douches probably aren't equal in their acidity and maybe
thus have varying effects.
reg
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520.33 | I'll delete .32 | GENRAL::SURVIL | Best when eaten before this date | Thu Oct 22 1987 18:31 | 14 |
|
Bonnie,
Oppps, I tried to delete mine too and thought it went away,
I guess not...only half of the note stayed and was unfinished.
What I was saying is that my SO DID suffer from yeast infections
and I, as well, had to take the little pills just incase I was
re-infecting her.
I just thought the reply before that was unessary.
Todd
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520.34 | | GENRAL::SURVIL | Best when eaten before this date | Thu Oct 22 1987 18:33 | 6 |
|
How about deleting .30 and spelling "unnecessary" correctly.
Sorry.
Todd
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520.35 | | NEWPRT::NEWELL | On the outside looking in... | Fri Oct 23 1987 14:23 | 16 |
| RE: .25
It never occured to me that a statement about labeling
a container of yoghurt could be offensive.
Sorry (and puzzled).
RE: .28
The tampax theory is simple...yoghurt by nature is messy
so why not make things easy on yourself and use an applicator?
Plus, I suppose the longer the yoghurt is in the better the
results.
Does any of this require a formfeed?
Jodi-
(Todd, remember me? "Parts is Parts")
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520.36 | Never know when the infection will come back | BUFFER::LEEDBERG | Truth is Beauty, Beauty is Truth | Fri Oct 23 1987 16:25 | 11 |
|
When I was in my twenties I suffered from re-occuring
yeast infections. I had strep-throat two or three times
a year (a job related illness - working with schools of
children). I discovered stong yoghurt and I now watch
for the symtoms and begin treatment right away. I really
don't think that I am cured.
_peggy
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520.37 | some more suggestions | NEWVAX::BOBB | I brake for Wombats! | Thu Nov 12 1987 15:36 | 46 |
|
Does this ever hit a sensitive nerve! I had a yeast infection for
about 6 months my junior year in college - I definately can sympathize
with the suggestion of amputation :*)..... I decided that if ever
I wanted to put a curse on someone, this was one of the worse things
I could think of.
Anyway... at that time I was put on several different types of
medication. I don't remember any of the names, but one was a yellowish
paste to be applied to the itching area. Another were large yellow
tablets, to be inserted in the affected area.
The doctor also recommended frequent washing (not a douche though,
just water) and also suggested eating unflavored plain yoghurt.
Said the stuff with all the sugar and fruit would do nothing/or
worse for the infection. This was to be eaten, with plain, fresh
fruit mixed in for flavor. (also told me that plain yoghurt was
an acquired taste - like whiskey :*) ).
I don't know what finally cleared it up, but it eventually (somewhere
around two eternities) went away.
Ever since then, I'm paranoid as soon as I even feel an itch. And
yes, the monthly cycle does seem to bring it on. I usually eat lots
of yogurt doing those days. Also, I found that using birth control
cream (just the regual brand that I use for other activities - I
think it is Delfen) seems to help. Whether there is something in
the cream, or what, I don't know. But it definately seems to help.
Also - (and I can't remember if this was already mentioned or not)
but I was also told that tight pants seem to aggrevate the situation.
I have noticed this to be true, at least for me.
Good luck with it.... as I said before, it is only something I would
wish on my worst enemy (and even then I don't know!).
janet b.
ps.
Something else that was told to me, but I'll put it after a form-feed
so as not to offend anyone....
Something else that I haven't seen here was a recommendation to
be very careful when wiping yourself after using the toilet. It
should be a front to back motion, because a back to front motion
could bring forward bacteria that is present in the anal area.
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520.38 | from some "womans" magazine | CADSYS::SULLIVAN | Karen - 225-4096 | Thu Nov 12 1987 16:53 | 17 |
| I just read a brief article in a mag. this morning while waiting for an oil
change.
1. high sugar levels in blood can contribute to yeast infections, so
don't eat candy. It said that many diabetics have problems with yeast
infections.
2. yeast thrive in moisture. Therefore make sure your underwear has
cotton crotches, don't wear tight pants, don't hang around in a
wet swimsuit too long.
3. plain yogurt helps, eat it and insert some into vagina.
Can't remember anything else, but this seems to corroberate what others
have said.
...Karen
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520.39 | We're still working on it... :-( | QBUS::FINK | Time for a Dandelion Break!! | Tue Nov 17 1987 01:41 | 33 |
|
Well, here's an update, sort of.
> Anyway... at that time I was put on several different types of
> medication. I don't remember any of the names, but one was a yellowish
> paste to be applied to the itching area. Another were large yellow
> tablets, to be inserted in the affected area.
We've tried both of these ideas, sometime earlier this summer,
I think it was. Helped a bit, but never totally cleared it
up. She's also been off the pill for several months, and that
hasn't helped any.
We had been going to a specialist, a dermatologist that Corinne's
gyn had recommended. He's now stumped, and has suggested another
specialist. Her appointment is Dec. 10th. We'll see what
happens then. I'm not sure what kind of dr. this one is, and
I think Corinne would kill me if I went and asked her now..
:-) :-)
I really hope we make some progress this time. I really feel
sorry for all she's going through. I know it's an almost
constant irritation for her. Because of this, we _know_ it's
not a case of me re-infecting her. Sometimes I wish it were,
because at least then we'd know what's causing it and could
stop it.... :-(
Please keep the suggestions coming, folks. We're trying the
yogurt trick now. Many thanks!
-Rich
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520.40 | if all else fails... | LEZAH::BOBBITT | sprinkled with syntactic sugar | Tue Nov 17 1987 13:32 | 9 |
| I was wandering through a health food store a while ago and saw
a box that said it was for yeast infections (primarily the systemic
ones, but I suspect a stubborn yeast infection may well be related
to something systemic). It claimed to be a "natural" way to fight
the yeasties, and although it was very expensive, if modern medicine
fails then it might be worth a try.
-Jody
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520.41 | Stubborn yeast infections often really systemic | SSDEVO::YOUNGER | There are no misteakes | Wed Nov 18 1987 15:20 | 12 |
| re .40:
Yes, there is one on the market called "Cantrol", that worked quite
well, though rather slowly, at eventually clearing up the systemic
yeast infection that was causing all of the vaginal infections.
It was reccomended by my DR. It is a lot cheaper if you buy it
from a large supermarket with a health food section. It took me
about 5 months, and a very restricted diet, but it was certainly
worth it.
Elizabeth
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520.42 | "Update on the Sugarless diet" | TALLIS::RICKARD | | Mon Nov 23 1987 16:21 | 29 |
| I recently saw a package of "pills" in a health food store, I think
it was "cantrol", and it contained the same variety of vitamins
and minerals and things like primrose oil that was suggested by
Dr. Crook in "The Yeast Connection". I read that book in September
and switched to a sugar free, complex carbohydrate diet, and take
a variety of vitamins: basic multi, extra minerals, calcium/magnesium,
slow acting C, E, primrose oil, garlic, ginger, selenium, bee propolis,
beta cerotene, pancretin and I think a couple of others. I am
delighted to report that I have conquered the yeast infection!
Well, I'm sure it will only be a victory as long as I can control
my longing for sweets. Since the first of November I have begun
to experiment with sugar/refined carbohydrates and can now allow
myself a desert or glass of wine once in awhile (I'm keeping those
treats down to once a week). When I get too much sugar I begin
to notice the symptoms again.
I've also noticed a difference in my moods. I am much happier and
joyous than I've been in a long time, even my SO commented on that
and drew a similar conclusion to mine, that it is related to the
absence of yeast colonies.
I thank those of you who suggested the yogurt preparations. I am
using them periodically, especially after I indulge in a sugar treat,
and that too seems to be helping.
So, based on my own experiment, I really believe that removing sugar
and refined carbohydrates from the diet is key to eliminating the
problem of yeast related infections.
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520.43 | "RE: 520.42 - don't forget ACIDOPHILUS | TALLIS::RICKARD | | Tue Nov 24 1987 17:09 | 5 |
| RE: 520.42
How could I forget the most important suppliment of them all:
ACIDOPHILUS
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520.44 | | CIRCUS::KOLLING | Karen, Sweetie, Holly; in Calif. | Thu Dec 03 1987 20:56 | 60 |
| I'm not sure how to insert a formfeed, so I'm put the info below
under a jillion carriage returns, for the sake of persons with delicate
sensibilities
A friend who used to have recurring vaginal infections told me that
her doctor had said the yeast (? bacteria?) could actually live
in douching equipment. So, then she started keeping track and noticed
that sure enough, 2 or 3 days after each time she douched, she'd
start to notice the symptoms of an infection. She's a very tidy
person, so I'm assuming that normal cleaning of the stuff is not
sufficient to kill off the whatever it is.
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520.45 | ^V^L | VIKING::TARBET | Clorty Auld Besom | Fri Dec 04 1987 09:07 | 9 |
| To anyone who wants to insert formfeeds in their notes for the
protection of readers' sensibilities (or even just not to give away
the punch line of a joke ;')
Type a V and an L both while holding down the control key.
Works a treat.
=maggie
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520.46 | | TOPDOC::AHERN | Dennis the Menace | Thu Dec 10 1987 12:53 | 29 |
| The following article by Denise Fortino appears in the January '88
issue of Ms. magazine.
The Yeast Beast
You probably know it as a household remedy for everything
from roaches to eye infections. But boric acid powder
has also proved to be highly effective against vaginal
yeast infections (Candida albicans).
In a recent study reported inn the Canadian Medical
Association Journal, significantly more women who used
boric acid powder intravaginally remained free of infection
up to a month after therapy than did those who used the
powerful prescription antifungal ointment, nystatin.
(To use this remedy, Dr. Ronald Hoffman, medical director
of the Whole Life Medical Center, recommends filling two
empty "double O" gelatin capsules with boric acid and
inserting them like vaginal suppositories daily over a
two-week period.)
In another study, yeast cultures were isolated from the
urine of almost half of the husbands of women who developed
recurring infections. This suggests that some men harbor
the fungus in their genitourinary tract, which may help
explain why their partners become reinfected. Those male
"carriers" should also be treated.
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