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Conference turris::womannotes-v1

Title:ARCHIVE-- Topics of Interest to Women, Volume 1 --ARCHIVE
Notice:V1 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:REGENT::BROOMHEAD
Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:873
Total number of notes:22329

455.0. "Musings on part-time and Digital" by AQUA::SAMBERG () Tue Aug 25 1987 15:22

Please forgive the ramblings on part-time and Digital:

I think Digital is great -- I've been here 13 years, 6 1/2 of it part-time in
a very supportive group.  I don't want to sound greedy. I have a great job.
I purposely looked for a position I could do partly at home or
part-time.  And let's face it -- some jobs just can't be done part-time or
even job-shared.  The fit has to be right.  However, what happens if a
manager is just not interested in job-sharing or part-time?  It is just
up to the manager's discretion?  If so, maybe that's okay and maybe
it isn't. What happens if I get a new manager who wants me to work
full time?

Below is an excerpt from an acquaintance at Digital who is
looking for another job within Digital because she was told she had to
switch from part-time to full-time (I admit I don't know the
exact details and there may be other issues):

	"...most managers don't know that people can work part-time or
	job-share. ...it  has taken me three months to find two professional
	women sharing a job in the company.  ...many of the company personel
	reps and recruiters are not aware of the policy.  [The policy] does
	nothing	to encourage managers to accommondate any different working
	situations."

I would also like to add that the current policy makes it difficult for
part-time mothers to have more than 1 child, since all the great benefits
like maternity leave and personal leave disappear.

Maybe Digital is working towards all this and I ought to shut up...  

Thanks for listening...

						Eileen Samberg

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455.1Part-time positionsDELNI::L_MCCORMACKWed Aug 26 1987 15:0117
    
    
    I just saw a small article in DTW about a month ago that mentioned
    something about encouraging MORE part-time people rather than
    contract or tag.  You might want to get a copy of this issue.
    I was surprized to hear that Digital is encouraging part-time
    positions because it hasn't been evident in my group.  Two years
    ago, two people in my group on 32 hours (with written letter from
    personnel) were told they HAD to go full-time or would have to
    leave there jobs.  They brought this to personnel's attention
    and were told this was so.  They have been working full-time since.
    
    I understand that most of the other major corporations are
    encouraging part-time work and ACTUALLY doing it but Digital
    seems to frown on this.
    
    
455.2sounded good on paperAQUA::SAMBERGThu Aug 27 1987 10:2013
    
>    I just saw a small article in DTW about a month ago that mentioned
>    something about encouraging MORE part-time people rather than
>    contract or tag.  You might want to get a copy of this issue.

	I did read that article and had to laugh.  The benefits (or
	cut/off for no medical, personal, etc.) did not change at all.
	Maybe they will later but I get exactly the same benefits
	(vacation, pension, and stock -- which is okay) as R20 as
	I got as PP1.  I still get no medical (with no option to buy
	into medical), no leave, no tuition reimbursement, etc.

				Eileen
455.3VIKING::TARBETMargaret MairhiThu Aug 27 1987 11:3834
    I just got off the phone with John Doherty of Corporate Personnel
    on the subject of job sharing.  He acknowledges that right now it
    doesn't work very well, but agrees that it makes good sense and
    is working toward better support for it. 
    
    As Eileen points out, right now only persons working >= 30 hours/week
    are able to get medical benefits, and only those working full-time
    (i.e. 40 hours/week) are able to get personal leaves for anything
    other than military service.
    
    When you add to that the fact that Finance (well, the Finance software
    really, I expect) still counts 2 people sharing 1 job as being 2 people
    for headcount purposes [brainless!], managers have very little
    incentive right now to permit ...let alone encourage!... jobsharing. It
    is the headcounting problem that John is working on right now.  He
    sounded pretty certain that it will be solved, but thinks probably not
    this year. 
    
    But solving the headcount problem still leaves the question of how do
    we partial out medical benefits and personal leaves.  Presumably, since
    med bennies are at 80% for fulltimers, a halftimer might reasonably
    expect 40% support; it would follow the pro-rata model used for other
    elegibilities.  It isn't at all clear to me why personal leave isn't
    available as a matter of course anyway; that question remains to be
    understood.
    
    It might be worthwhile to survey our membership (and non-member
    colleagues?) to find out what the pressure for parttime/jobsharing is,
    and what skills are available for matching.  If there is a large
    population of potential jobsharers, we might be able to convince upper
    management to provide the needed support more quickly.  What do
    you all think?
    
    						=maggie
455.4Some encouraging wordsVIKING::TARBETFri Jan 22 1988 13:5520
    From the February 1988 "Mgmt Memo":
    
    Future Challenges of a Changing Work Force
    ------------------------------------------
    by John Murphy, Consultant, Corporate Employee Relations
    and Harris Sussman, Strategic Information Group, Corporate Personnel
    
    ...
    
    Flexibility in work schedules is also important because people with
    highly-specialized skills -- such as software engineering -- are
    becoming scarce.  One way to deal with the scarcity of people is
    to recruit part-time professionals -- people who prefer a reduced
    work week for family reasons or because of outside interests.  There
    is a pool of exceptionally high-quality people that we can attract
    for individual part-time employment.  In other words, variable
    schedules and other arrangements can and should be considered when
    they make good business sense.
    
    ...
455.5MEWVAX::AUGUSTINEFri Jan 22 1988 21:476
    Maggie,
    This is encouraging. I'd always heard that Digital makes it difficult
    to hire part-timers, and that managers who wish to do so have to
    go to extraordinary lengths. Has something changed to make it easier?
    
    Liz
455.6the way into management hearts...SUPER::HENDRICKSThe only way out is throughSat Jan 23 1988 08:193
    Yeah, Liz, supply and demand :-)
    
    Holly
455.7One more step and it will work...MARCIE::JLAMOTTErenewal and resolutionSat Jan 23 1988 08:426
    What really needs to change is Digital's way of determining head
    count.  They literally count heads.  If they were to count hours
    the managers would be able to hire part timers, and allow job 
    sharing.