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Conference turris::womannotes-v1

Title:ARCHIVE-- Topics of Interest to Women, Volume 1 --ARCHIVE
Notice:V1 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:REGENT::BROOMHEAD
Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:873
Total number of notes:22329

400.0. "Unmarried Women who want children" by --UnknownUser-- () Mon Jul 20 1987 15:13

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400.1Thinking along these lines myselfUSSCSL::MICHAELSWhy Soitanly... Nyuk Nyuk NyukMon Jul 20 1987 15:3817
    If your friend is as deeply troubled about this as you're description
    of her leads us to believe than she may want to recieve some counseling
    prior to making any decisions.  I am sure as well that there are
    plenty of books on the subject.  Being a 28 year old single male
    who has begun to think about having a family some day more and more
    I very much sympathize with what your friend feels.
    
    As far as the baby clothes go... I still have my first baseball
    mitt and bat and sometimes I think of these items in the same ways.
    Why do I save these things ???  They may remind me of more carefree
    days and I would like to show them to my children someday even if
    they are dated.
    
    
                                              Larry
    
    
400.2go for it!STRATA::DAUGHANfight individualismMon Jul 20 1987 15:536
    i see nothing wrong with it myself as long as she is able to support
    the child emotionally and physically(money).
    i agree that she should have counseling first,and hopefully family
    support.
    i applaud her.
    				kelly
400.3MANTIS::PAREMon Jul 20 1987 17:085
    If she can afford to support a child by herself and is prepared
    for a lifetime committment (knowing the stress and difficulties
    involved), then I see no reason why she shouldn't either adopt a
    child or use whatever technology we have available to have a child.
    
400.5A kid or a dollL?DELNI::SILKMon Jul 20 1987 21:255
Can't help but wondering if what she really wants is a kid
or the "cute" accoutrements.  Kids are pretty wonderful
but also a lot messier and more difficult than their toys.

Nina
400.6Well ....I didSTUBBI::B_REINKEwhere the side walk endsMon Jul 20 1987 21:577
    Well it has been many years, but yes I did collect kids things
    before I got pregnant. Primarily books, but then I didn't have
    a lot of money and I had my first child at 25 so I really didn't
    have a long time to collect either. I have heard of other women
    who have done the same. It is sort of a nesting instinct to my
    mind.
    Bonnie
400.7Sortof, for both of usHUMAN::BURROWSJim BurrowsTue Jul 21 1987 01:158
        My wife and I bought children's books for years before we had
        kids, but they are *our* books and the kids are read to out of
        them and enjoy them, but they are stored on our shelves. I have
        also kept my teddy bear for years. I think that all of this is
        related to our desire for children, but is also related to our
        own love of the things of childhood.
        
        JimB. 
400.8makes sense to meWEBSTR::RANDALLI'm no ladyTue Jul 21 1987 01:4915
    I personally didn't collect baby things before I got pregnant partly
    because I was only 19, still in college, and not yet thinking of those
    things.  But I was one of the few girls I knew who didn't have at least
    one or two little toys, pretty blankets, or such stashed away against
    the day when we would want to be mothers. 
    
    Since then I've known a number of women, both married and unmarried,
    who have collected baby things.
    
    If you think you might ever have a child, it's a sensible thing
    to do -- that way you don't have to buy it all when you're paying
    off the already high medical bills and so on.
    
    --bonnie

400.9\BEES::PARETue Jul 21 1987 10:085
    I did this too just before having my boys.  Little stuffed animals,
    bonnets and baby stuff.. they all smelled so good and were so cute
    and frilly and babyish.  
    
    		Oh God! ... I'd better get ahold of myself.
400.10As long as it doesn't hurt anyone else!JUNIOR::TASSONEJuly 30th - 1 year AnnivTue Jul 21 1987 11:2524
    A collection of objects can be labelled in three (maybe more) ways:
    1) hobby items
    2) preparation items
    3) obsessive/compulsive items
    
    If the child-like items are stored away in preparation for a child,
    then by all means, tell your friend there is nothing wrong with
    that.  Collecting things as a hobby, nothing wrong with that.  But
    if by chance your friend collects these items as a compulsion to
    have and to hope and she is depressed further and further, than 
    there may be something deep seeded that needs to be brought 
    out through counseling.
    
    I am "no" authority on this subject.  I have no children.  My only
    reason for implying a compulsion is the nature behind .0.  My only
    support for this is based on my Bachelor of Science degree in 
    psychology.  
    
    For more information on obsessive/compulsive disorders, just ask.
    One more thing, these behaviors are not necessarily bad for you,
    as long as they don't affect the people around you, which in this
    instance (.0), does not.
                   
    Cathy
400.11APEHUB::STHILAIREwaiting for an ideaTue Jul 21 1987 16:1815
    The only baby "things" I collected before I was pregnant were names.
     Ever since I was a little kid I always had a mental list of what
    I would name future children, and I kept revising it over the years.
     Even now, when I have no desire to have any more kids, I know what
    I would name them IF I wanted them.
    
    I was 23 when I got pregnant, by accident, and hadn't consciously
    started to desire a child yet, so I'll never know what I would have
    done if I had actually desired a child for a long time before  I got
     pregnant.  Of course, as soon as I found out I was expecting a
    child I started buying things, even daring to buy pink occasionally
    since I wanted a girl so badly.
    
    Lorna
      
400.13(collecting things)DELNI::L_MCCORMACKTue Jul 21 1987 16:5115
    
    
    To each his/her own.  We're all different and do things for
    different reasons.  
    
    I'm due in 3 months and I haven't bought one thing myself or
    felt like it.  I never collected baby things because I never
    thought I'd have a child.  I did, though, keep a couple of
    my own books, which I will now pass on down the line.
    
    I don't even get off buying clothes for myself so I find it
    difficult to buy them for someone else.  I think a lot of
    this depends on our own personalities.  I don't go in for
    cute and frilly and can just imagine some of the things I'll
    drag home for my kid!