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Conference turris::womannotes-v1

Title:ARCHIVE-- Topics of Interest to Women, Volume 1 --ARCHIVE
Notice:V1 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:REGENT::BROOMHEAD
Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:873
Total number of notes:22329

328.0. "Best Friendism" by CADSE::GLIDEWELL () Fri Jun 05 1987 20:26

I'm beginning to wonder if the institution of 'best friend' is really 
something we should dump.  The idea is not coming from any theoretical 
position, rather from random observations.

A feminist weekend where the sets of 'best friends' kept mostly to 
themselves.

Overheard conversations "you're a really good friend, but not my best
friend" and "she used to be my best friend, but now I like JJ more." 

Wondering whether girls embrace the institution, unconsciously, as an
analog of future marriage.  ... Some mute chunk of the cerebellum feeling
some day I'll be married, but for now, I have a best friend. 

  What are the results of living with a continual evaluation of who is my 
best friend, and who isn't.  And I'm her best friend but she's not mine.  
Now that I look back and out, with the eyes of an adult, the best friend 
contest looks unwonderful.  Someone in this notes file told about an 
incident where boys were holding up scorecords as girls walked across a 
bridge.  Perhaps awarding and withholding the best friend badge is not too 
different?       Meigs
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328.1CSSE::MARGEFloppys, wobblys-what's the difference?Sat Jun 06 1987 09:5814
 	I don't consider having a "best friend" as a substitute or 
    placeholder for a marital partner... in fact my best friend back 
    home has survived my two marriages... we met in high school and have
    been best friends for twenty+ years.
    
    	When I want an honest reading on how really ridiculous I'm being
    about (whatever) I just call Kathy and we talk. We make no pretense
    of trying to agree with one another completely or at all... we do
    try to be straightforward and loving of one another.
    
    Marge
    
    
    
328.2A friend is a friend is a friendJUNIOR::TASSONESpring FlingMon Jun 08 1987 11:0213
    I too have been wondering about that.  Having had friends come and
    go in my life rather frequently (ALL THESE CHANGES!), I can't say
    I have one "best friend".  I have good, trusting,
    say-what's-on-your-mind kinds of friends, but not a "best one".
     I don't think it's fair, in some ways, to label someone that. 
    I don't know.  Maybe I feel this way because I was never someone's
    best friend.  My SO and I feel that we have a great and loving
    friendship but more importantly, a relationship where we love each
    other and care enough to call each other "friends".
    
    That's all that matters to me.
    
    Cathy
328.3SPMFG1::CHARBONNDMon Jun 08 1987 11:309
    There are many valid reasons to be friends with another pperson,many
    areas of common interest,shared activities etc...different friends
    for different reasons. I don't discuss Objectivism with my 
    fishing partner, or noting with the guys at the local bar. If
    there is such a thing as a 'best' friend it is one with whom
    you have the most interests in common. Of course, the greater
    amount of time spent with such a person will likely lead to
    a deeper friendship, but why does that diminish the quality
    of other friendships ?
328.4APEHUB::STHILAIREChronicle of neglected truthMon Jun 08 1987 11:3418
    I have six close female friends whom I consider to be my best friends,
    but I couldn't pick one over the others as being my "best friend".
     We are not a group.  None of these six are close friends with each
    other.  I like them all equally and each of them fullfills a need
    for me as I imagine I do for them.
    
    Actually, right now I consider my current S.O. to be my best friend,
    and for the first 7 or 8 years that I knew my ex-husband he was
    my best friend.
    
    I wonder if having best friends is related to women not liking other
    women?  Perhaps each woman wants to have a best friend or friends
    that she can count on not to stab her in the back because she's
    afraid that the vast majority of women are all enemies and/or
    competitors.  Just a thought.
    
    Lorna
    
328.5that's what friends are forSKYLIT::SAWYERi'll take 2 myths and 3 traditions...to go..Mon Jun 08 1987 17:0833
    
    my current s.o. is my best friend, also. As a matter of fact, if
    we couldn't be best friends....we wouldn't be s.o.'s! She has a
    number of other friends, mostly female but a few male, who she can
    spend a small portion of her time with before she needs to strangle
    them :-)....and these are her best friends.
    they, each in different ways, allow an outlet for different needs
    that she has.
    	i use to have best friends but now, other than my s.o. and my
    daughters, i maintain a small number of friendly acquaintances.
    Mostly because most of the people i meet stopped growing when they
    were 24 or 25 and i feel as though i've outgrown them.
    	or it could be cuz i'm a jerk and they are all normal...:-)
    
    	with my s.o., i've always, since we met, DEMANDED that she maintain
    as many of her friendships as she wanted to. Too many people have
    a tendency to lose contact with their friends when they start hanging
    out with a new lover. Then, 3 or 5 or 7 years later, when the relat-
    ionship is over.....the old friends are gone!
    	and then these people who gave up their friends for a lover
    (sometimes because the lover demanded this!...jerk!) they feel
    lonely cuz they got nobody!!!!!
    	silly.
    	so my s.o. has introduced me to most of her male/female friends
    and we occasionally do things with some of these people. I have
    done the same with my friendly acquaintances.
    	on nights that we can't be together, or we have no plans...she
    calls one of these people and they do something.
    	this way...she's happy...and i'm happy...
    	and if/when we split up (hopefully with no animosity) she'll
    still have her network of friends to help her out emotionally and
    socially.
    	
328.6SUPER::HENDRICKSNot another learning experience!Tue Jun 09 1987 14:4313
    I've had about 8 best friends in my life, and the intensity of the
    relationship had a lot to do with having something in common at
    the time.  As I moved on to other locations, friends and activities,
    I found that I added to my group of best friends, although I occasionally
    subtracted from it due to lack of interests and contact.
    
    I spent this last weekend with a woman who was my best friend in
    junior high.  We had a falling out during the last two years of
    high school over values relating to drugs and boys, but she is still
    one of my best friends.
    
    I'm one of those people who is much happier if I know that I am
    primary for someone, but primary does not need to mean exclusive.
328.7my 2$MURPHY::MORRISSEYTom Wed Jun 17 1987 18:468
    I'd like to offer my definition of a (not the) best friend:
    Someone who no matter how long it's been since you seen them, makes
    you feel like it was just yesterday. (obviously this must be mutual)
    
    this definition does not limit one to having only ONE Best Friend
    
    Tom
    (they_may_not_like_my_style...but_they_sure_know_who_I_am)