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178.1 | Yummmm! | TECATE::JOHNS | | Tue Jan 27 1987 19:09 | 5 |
| My all consuming passion is the eating of these meals. If anyone
here has an all consuming passion to prepare and serve them, let's
get together! :-)
Carol
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178.2 | joy of cooking? | JACUZI::DAUGHAN | take one today! | Tue Jan 27 1987 19:47 | 5 |
| despite the easy 1-2-3 meals that they mostly are(geared to working
superwomen),they are still sexist and aimed at how to please(get)
your man.
kelly
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178.3 | The pleasure of cooking | MARCIE::JLAMOTTE | It is a time to remember | Tue Jan 27 1987 20:42 | 13 |
| Cooking is fun, creative and very social. I have noticed that a
great many men are enjoying it as much as I do and they tend to
be more 'gourmet' cooks than I.
I actually get more pleasure out of compliments from women on my
cooking than trying to please a man. Probably because I have a
large group of female friends and we socialize a lot with pot luck
dinners.
If you don't like to cook and you enjoy a hearty meal you are invited
male or female, Sunday nights in the South End.
Joyce
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178.4 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Three rights make a left | Tue Jan 27 1987 21:55 | 11 |
| I sometimes get irate that if I want a good assortment of useful,
realistic recipes, about the only place to go is the women's magazines.
And I even get MORE irate when I see the "recipes for men" columns
that consider pouring beer over a hamburger about the limits of
a man's cooking ability.
I do subscribe to Bon Appetit, but the recipes there are usually
a bit more elaborate than I'd consider for a dinner at home. Ah
well - back to Joy of Cooking.
Steve
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178.5 | | SHIRE::MAURER | Helen | Wed Jan 28 1987 07:37 | 6 |
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Which women's mags ? Who edits them ?
Are they really women's mags or are they mags designed for
an outdated concept of what women do ?
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178.6 | it's part of a mix | TWEED::B_REINKE | Down with bench Biology | Wed Jan 28 1987 08:17 | 12 |
| The receipes are part of a formula that sells magazines, along
with hair care, clothing, and decorating articles. There seems
to be a formula that sells, which also may include one article
on how some one over came a problem, an article on exercise,
an article on some celebrity, a medical article and perhaps
some fiction. This formula primarily sells to women who aren't
career oriented.
Cooking still falls to women more than men, so women are still
more apt to buy magazines with new receipes in them. It's a long
jump tho to call cooking women's "consuming passion" because of
that.
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178.7 | words of wisdom | CELICA::QUIRIY | Christine | Wed Jan 28 1987 08:51 | 6 |
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"The way to a man's heart is through his stomach."
:-) (or should that be ~/~ ?)
CQ
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178.8 | Life is a minestrone | TOPDOC::JAMES | | Wed Jan 28 1987 10:09 | 9 |
| May Goddess help me if preparing meals is my all-consuming passion.
I eat, therefore I cook, but there's lots more to life that gets
my eager attention.
I do, on rare occasions, get excited about making a super meal,
but by and large it's a dirty job, but someone has....
Stel
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178.9 | Joy of never having to be the one to cook | APEHUB::STHILAIRE | | Wed Jan 28 1987 13:17 | 20 |
| I've been lucky in that my ex-husband of 12 1/2 yrs. preferred to
do the cooking in exchange for other chores I didn't mind (such
as the laundry, taking out garbage, and cleaning the kitchen), but
I would hardly say it was *his* all consuming passion, either.
My luck has continued in that the man I've been living with for
the past almost two years does the cooking. Before I got married
my mother cooked most of the food I ate. Far from being an all
consuming passion, I have managed to away with not having to cook
for years.
The only time I read those women's magazines (so called) is when
I'm at the dentists and there's nothing else available. I find
them incredibly boring. Looking at shining photos of well-prepared
meals does nothing for me.
I don't know if I have an all-consuming passion, but I know it isn't
cooking.
Lorna
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178.10 | | HBO::HENDRICKS | Holly | Wed Jan 28 1987 13:40 | 15 |
| Sometimes I love to cook, and spend hours poring through cookbooks
finding just the right thing, buying and preparing the food, and
eating it with my SO and/or friends.
Other times I come home from work, and I want the quickest and easiest
thing I can find. Three minutes in the microwave could seem like
too much hassle :-) at those times.
Other times I want to be cooked for, and sit down and enjoy a meal
as a whole, rather than as a combination of parts combined by me.
I don't think cooking is oppressive in itself, I think being expected
to come up with "nutritious, exciting, tempting, low-calorie and
low-cost" meals day after day after day is oppressive. Everyone
who eats should help make sure food is provided!
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178.11 | ME TOO | OURVAX::JEFFRIES | | Wed Jan 28 1987 15:21 | 2 |
| re.10
AMEN
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178.12 | | FAUXPA::ENO | Bright Eyes | Thu Jan 29 1987 08:16 | 15 |
| AMEN again
I once calculated roughly how much time is devoted to shopping for,
planning, preparing, serving, eating and cleaning up after meals.
It averages about 3-1/2 hours a day, and that's a big chunk out
of the eight left after eight (minimum) for work and eight (maximum)
for sleep.
I don't think food is a passion for me, and I don't usually read
women's magazines (I don't have to time to read something that doesn't
matter to me very much). I think they publish so much cooking stuff
because it IS such a major piece of our lives, and we have a lot
of emotional baggage attached to food.
G
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178.13 | | MRED::BURTON | | Thu Jan 29 1987 10:17 | 30 |
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RE: 178.4
I haven't seen too many "men's recipees" but enough to share
your attitude Steve. There are, however, "Mens" mags that do have
some pretty good recipees. The one that comes imediatly to mind
is "Outdoor Life". Most of the recipees are aimed at game meat but
can be used on domestic meats. Both myself and Marie (my wife) love
to cook and love eating even more. We both read recipees in "womans"
mags although we rate the rest of the mag as poor hamster nesting
material. Except the coupons of course.
If you really want to expand your cooking skills, pick up
some good cookbooks. James Beard is an excelent cook and has a few
books out. There's also Boston's own Julia Child. L.L.Bean has a
very good cookbook on all types of game and fish that Marie and
I refuse to lend out to anyone. Mosey on into your local bookstore
and browse through the cooking sections. You'll be amazed at the
variety and quantity of cookbooks these days. You can also watch
P.B.S. if your in the New-England area. There's around five different
cooking shows on channel 2.
To hell with the media's attitudes on male cooks. Snub your
nose at em all and enjoy cooking and eating. Plus it's a fun way
to entertain guests. get em all involved it's tons of fun.
(If you cook and eat like I do, take up jogging or you'll be tons
of fun!) :-)
Rob
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178.14 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Three rights make a left | Thu Jan 29 1987 16:14 | 15 |
| Re: .13
I had one female visitor to my apartment comment that I had more
cookbooks than she did... My favorites are the "Blue Strawbery"
cookbooks by James Haller. Great food for the imagination...
Cooking can be fun. What seems very odd to me is that society seems
to regard cooking as a woman's job in the home, but in the professional
arena one finds that the vast majority of chefs are men. Why is
this, I wonder?
I've found that inviting a woman IN for dinner can lead to a very
special relationship.
Steve
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178.15 | food sells? | NEWVAX::BOBB | YEA GIANTS!!! | Thu Jan 29 1987 17:48 | 28 |
| I'll be the first to admit that I buy those "women" magazines because
the food on the cover usually looks soooooo good. Whether I ever
cook it or not, I still like reading through the recipes - because
they give me ideas for my own recipes.
I like to cook - for me it is a relaxing activity. But, only when
I am doing it because I want to. The minute I get the feeling that
I "have to" cook - it's tuna fish sandwich time!
Most of those magazines alternate between having a gorgeous
cake/pie/food on the cover or the "star" of the month (male and
female). It's flashy and catches the consumers' eye and is probably
what sells a good majority of the magazines (chocolate cake always
does it for me....), the articles sure don't. And isn't that what
the business is about - selling the magazines? If it didn't work,
they wouldn't do it.... and they are probably less apt to change
to see if something else works just as well (like relevent topics)
just in case it hurts circulation.
I also think that since everyone has to eat and at some point in
most people's lives, they get sick of eating out, frozen dinners,
etc., that cooking (or food, at least) is a topic that interest
to the masses. So, what better topic to put on the cover of a mag.
that you're trying to sell?
janet b.
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178.16 | cooking enjoyment <--> cleaning up ?? | SEMI::LEVITIN | Yow! Am I happy yet? | Sat Jan 31 1987 19:11 | 7 |
| I have noticed that I enjoy cooking much more when I know
that someone *else* is going to do the cleaning up. For
those who want to cook something other than run-of-the-mill
food, give this idea a try if you have a willing partner
to share the work.
Sam
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178.17 | He cooks, she cleans, or vice versa | QUARK::LIONEL | Three rights make a left | Sat Jan 31 1987 21:14 | 7 |
| Re: .16
Good point! When I was married, my wife and I had an arrangement
that whoever did the cooking, the other did the dishes. Though
things didn't always go as smoothly as we hoped, in general it
helped us be a bit more adventuresome in our meals.
Steve
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