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Conference turris::womannotes-v1

Title:ARCHIVE-- Topics of Interest to Women, Volume 1 --ARCHIVE
Notice:V1 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:REGENT::BROOMHEAD
Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:873
Total number of notes:22329

174.0. "Sisterhood is Best" by COGVAX::LEEDBERG () Wed Jan 21 1987 10:34

    In previous notes the issue of women in or out of relationships
    has been discussed - YET - the issue of a relationship that consists
    of a woman and another woman keeps getting skirted :^).
    
    I have a woman friend who I have know for over 32 years.  Our
    relationship is one of giving to each other - there is no taking
    and very little questioning of the others motives.  Our relationship
    has changed over the years as we both have changed - my marriages
    her problems with her health.  We have never tried to change the
    other - she chain smokes - we accecpt each as we are.  This means
    that there are long periods when we avoid each other socially; we
    still do important stuff together - work, try to change the world,
    publish a Feminist magazine, whatever.
    
    We are true sisters, and share our lives and resources - this is
    what I call a meaningful relationship and it does not include any
    reference to men.
    
    _peggy
    
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174.1Friends and relationshipsTIGEMS::SCHELBERGTue Jan 27 1987 15:0310
    I'm surprised that no answered this topic.  I think it's very
    interesting to see that a friendship can last 32 years.....such
    a true friend and they are the hardest to find.  All my childhood
    buddies have gone there separate ways and I never hear from them
    anymore.....so it's good to see long relationships do exist!
    
    Any more stories like that one?  I'm just curious.
    
    BS
    
174.2Friends and FriendsMASTER::EPETERSONWed Jan 28 1987 14:3015
    
    
    I enjoy the "close" friendship of several people I went to high
    school with.  We, too, can go for months without being in touch.
    But when we do get together it is even better, because we just have
    more to catch up on.  Our relationships have grown over the 26 or
    so years, and the conversations consist of both old and new topics.
    It is to these people that I can show any and all of my sides -
    my bold side, my cowardly side, my smart or stupid side.  They know
    me to be all of these and more, and I love them dearly.  They are
    not, however, all women.  In fact I would find it strange if they
    all were all of one sex or the other.  If they were it would mean
    that I was overlooking the good qualities of some potential good
    friends because I had a problem getting close to  one or the other
    sex.  Sisterhood best???  I don't think so.
174.3Just my $ .02 worth!PEACHS::WOODFri Jan 30 1987 15:2730
    
    	re: .1  
    
    	> Any more stories like that one? 
        
        My story would have to be just the opposite.  I have found it
    	very difficult to maintain long-lasting friendships with other
    	women, but have several men friends who have been friends for
    	years. 
    
    	I haven't taken the time to try to analyze this because I'm
    	happy with things the way they are. 
    	
    	re: .2
    
    	> Sisterhood best?  I don't think so! 
    	
    	I agree!  I wouldn't trade one of my men friends for a female
    	friend!  I've been "stabbed in the back" too many times by
    	so-called friends!  (One who had an affair with my ex behind
    	my back.  Another who called an SO with "stories" about my
    	behavior that were not true.  Was this just jealousy on her
    	part that I had an SO and she didn't?) 
    
    	I've found my male friends to be more "reliable" and just as
    	understanding as any female friend.  I have some female friends
    	but nothing long lasting or as deep as the friendship I share
    	with some male friends. 
    
    	Myra	
174.42 + 2 = 4MASTER::EPETERSONTue Feb 03 1987 12:029
    
    
    RE:  .3
    
    Come to think of it, you are right in a way.  The people who have
    been the biggest pains in my "side" both in business and in my personal
    life have been women.  Petty stuff like gossip, backstabing and
    envy.  Ya know, sometimes I think we have identified our worst enemies
    and they are US!
174.5both sides are worth attentionBRAE::BUSDIECKERThu Feb 05 1987 18:2925
..... well  ....  I  wouldn't  say our worst enemies are ourselves (but then
there are a lot of things I wouldn't say!)

I have  found  men  in  general to be easier for me to get along with, often
because I can relate better to them, interest-wise.

However, I've had problems with the relationship going the wrong way -- it's
terrible  to  lose a friend because you want to "date" someone else. (Was he
really  a  friend? I think so, we got over it after about a year of avoiding
each other and it seems to have fixed itself, sortof.)

Anyway, a male friend of mine was explaining why he was looking forward to a
weekend  with  "the  boys"  (not  something he does often at all) -- he said
things  were  very  relaxed because none of them had ever been involved with
each  other,  or  were  going  after  each other. I wouldn't want to go on a
weekend with just women because that's my good friends aren't limited to one
sex, I don't normally do things by sex, etc.

BUT ...  I  think  I  can understand what my friend is looking for. (Just as
long as he doesn't do it all the time!)

re .4
I  am  my own best friend --- I know that I am the one person who will never
leave me [or maybe, "until death do I part"!  ;-)  ]
174.7Longest friendshipTIGEMS::SCHELBERGTue Feb 17 1987 12:0914
    I have to retract that statement that I only have one women friend
    that I keep close contact with.....I should also mentioned thta
    I met someone through women notes that I correspond with but haven't
    meet yet! :-)  I really meant to say that the one woman friend I
    have been friends with ten years is the longest woman friendship
    I have.....not the only one!   I think it's harder for woman to
    stay friends over a long period of time because my high school friends
    are gone and other friends I made working at different companies
    have gone their separate ways.  
    
    Now that I confused myself......:-)
    
    bs