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Conference turris::womannotes-v1

Title:ARCHIVE-- Topics of Interest to Women, Volume 1 --ARCHIVE
Notice:V1 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:REGENT::BROOMHEAD
Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:873
Total number of notes:22329

72.0. "NATURE OR NURTURE SEGMENT OF PHIL DONAHUE SERIES" by FULTON::LEVITAN () Fri Aug 22 1986 15:18

    This is the first time I've participated in WOMANNOTES - but have
    been reading for a few months.  I'm quite surprised that no one
    has brought up PHIL DONAHUE'S series on THE HUMAN ANIMAL.  I was
    particularly impressed with the NATURE OR NUTURE segment.
    
    My children are grown - and gone - and I refuse to allow myself
    to feel guilty over the "mistakes" I made when they were small.
     But I still find it fascinating to learn about the Human Animal.
    
    I know that when I become a grandmother - eventually - that I'll
    have far more understanding of a baby's capabilities than I did
    when I was in my 20s with my own.
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72.1it was okayCACHE::MARSHALLbeware the fractal dragonFri Aug 22 1986 15:4721
    I had mixed feelings about _The_Human_Animal_ show. on one hand
    I appreciated seeing it on prime-time TV introduced by a personality
    sure to draw a large audience (I wonder if it actually did though).
    On the other hand, most of the footage they used I had seen before
    on PBS, mostly Nova, where they had gone into greater depth.
    The "Nature/Nurture" segment, however, was done well.
    
    The last segment "The Family" bothered me, not because of the tragedies
    portrayed, but because I thought it just didn't belong. It wasn't
    about "the human animal" and it's need for family and the forms
    the family has assumed over the millenia, etc. It didn't
    examine "the family", it examined three families in deep trouble.
    The stories were important, and tragic, and it is necessary to face
    these problems, but it just didn't fit in with the rest of the series.
    It would have been better to have a seperate series on the family,
    traditional families, non-traditional, families in crisis, hope
    for the future.
    
    I'm sure to get in trouble for this one.
    
    sm 
72.2THE HUMAN ANIMALBOOLE::PAPISONTue Aug 26 1986 10:505
    THE HUMAN ANIMAL was briefly discussed in the Human Relations Notes
    File (QUARK::HUMAN_RELATIONS), Note 36.
    
    -Mary-
    
72.3Phil Disappointed MeVAXUUM::DYERWorking For The Yankee DollarWed Sep 10 1986 04:1714
	    I've seen the "Nature/Nurture" segment, but I haven't seen
	the last two (regarding sex differences and the family, I
	believe - they're waiting for me on my future-sister-in-law's
	video tape).  I was not impressed.
	    The most well-produced part seemed to be that guy who was
	a risk-taker.  They scanned his brain and found it low in supply
	of a certain substance, and that made him restless.  Then they
	made the assumption that he was born that way.
	    That seems to be the big thing with findings made by neuro-
	physiological psychologists that make their way into the media:
	the assumption that a biological state is inherent.
	    I was also unimpressed with the segment on aggression,
	which touched on nature/nurture issues and made the same errors.
			<_Jym_>
72.4only nature knows!PSGVAX::CICCOLINITue Oct 14 1986 15:5126
    Nature vs. nurture is one of the 'hot' topics in physchology.  The
    question was given new impetus at the completion of the now world
    famous studies of twins reared apart.  The study was completed about
    5 or so years ago and created shock waves throughout the psychology-
    sociology worlds.  Here they finally had two genetically identical
    beings raised in different sociological circumstances.  The upshot
    is that they found much more was attributed to nature than they
    had imagined.  Twins reared apart, never having met one another,
    had carved out amazingly similar lives for themselves!  And come
    to think of it, I think NOVA did a story based on this research.
    
    This doesn't clearly answer the question of whether or not women
    are "better at verbal skills, terrible at math, underachievers,
    whatever", because they are women or because they are raised to be,
    but I'm sure some PhD candidate out there is trying to find identical
    twin women, one of whom was raised traditionally, (read sexist),
    and one of whom was not.   I personally would LOVE to see the results
    of that study because it would put a lot of our questions to rest.
    
    I believe that raising any segment of society to subjugate itself,
    defer and believe that another class is "better" is going to wind
    up passive, reactive and certainly without the self confidence to
    make the same kinds of gains as the "priviledged" class.
    
    Sandy