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Conference turris::womannotes-v1

Title:ARCHIVE-- Topics of Interest to Women, Volume 1 --ARCHIVE
Notice:V1 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:REGENT::BROOMHEAD
Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:873
Total number of notes:22329

71.0. "Where oh where has ___ gone?" by DONJON::EYRING () Thu Aug 21 1986 13:41

    Reading one of the previous notes, I was struck with how easy it
    was to get the address of a person simply by asking noters if they
    knew it.  I can think of a couple of people, old friends that I
    have long since lost contact with, that I wouldn't mind "finding"
    again - or at least knowing where they are and how they're doing.
    
    Is there a "missing persons" note file anywhere?  With over 90,000
    employees all around the country and world, I bet we could find
    any one we wanted to.  Well, almost anyone.  I assume all 90,000
    don't read this note file!
    
    Think of it!  We might be able to locate old friends, children,
    natural parents, etc., etc.
    
    Sally
    
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71.1talk to an ELFCACHE::MARSHALLbeware the fractal dragonThu Aug 21 1986 16:308
    
    Ever heard of ELF, the Employee Locator Facility?
    
    I think that will do what you're asking.
    Sometimes things are slow to get updated after a move, but it's
    pretty good.
    
    sm
71.2- USENET -SARAH::BUSDIECKERThu Aug 21 1986 18:208
Something a   little   "bigger"   than   what   you  are  talking  about  is
net.net-people, which I used when in school to find someone in DEC for my 
father.

(This is nice because you get everyone on the usenet (who subscribes to it)
as well as DECies --- not _everyone_ in DEC reads notes files often (or
all notesfiles).)
71.3Elves don't know every thing.OMEGA::YURYANThu Aug 21 1986 18:2714
    Steve,
    	I don't think ELF is what Sally was really thinking of. 
    	For one thing, not everyone in the world works at DEC (although
    	sometimes it seems like it). People at DEC could give out a
    	name, and people from all over DEC could reply if they know
    	someone by that name. I've always wondered about long lost 
    	relatives of mine with the same last name. 
    	Sally, that is a fantastic idea. If it were possible to locate
    	missing children and adults, imagine the public service we
    	would be performing!                       
    
    	Is there a more appropriate notes file to discuss this in?
    	
    	Sue
71.4seek and ye shall findSWSNOD::RPGDOCHave pen, will travelFri Aug 22 1986 09:4813
    I was thinking the same thing as .0 the other day. I wonder if it
    was also prompted by NOTEs.  There is so much useful information
    traded on this thing, with people all over the place, that I can
    see how it would be very useful for someone to locate old friends  ,
    missing relations and long lost lovers.
    
    If you really wanted to I suppose you could go to the Library and
    start looking up telephone books all over the place, but the idea
    of a notesfile conference where you could put in what biographical
    info you had and a last known address might be rewarding.
    
    Then again, some people are better off as memories.
    
71.5You can give it a try, but...KALKIN::BUTENHOFApproachable SystemsFri Aug 22 1986 09:5216
        Sounds like an interesting idea.  As far as I know, there's
        no such conference currently in existance, so someone could
        volunteer to start and host it.
        
        One severe problem: to most people on the net, virtually
        all of the entries will be almost totally meaningless.  To
        be successful, however, the conference would require a lot
        of "traffic"... if a *lot* of people don't throw out names,
        and a lot of other people don't throw back info, it would
        be a failure.  And that massive quantity of information, totally
        irrelevant and uninteresting to most people, might also kill
        it: few people, I suspect, would be willing to spare the
        time to keep up with it.  I'm not sure I would, though I
        might watch it for a few weeks out of curiousity.
        
        	/dave
71.6so much for elvesCACHE::MARSHALLbeware the fractal dragonFri Aug 22 1986 10:5710
    re .3:
    
    You're right. I re-read .0 again and I did misinterpret.
    Which is funny, because a read .0 a few times before suggesting
    ELF to be sure she was looking for DEC employees. 
    oh, well
    
    sm
    
    (aside) Hi Sue! didn't know you were in here!
71.7It could workDONJON::EYRINGFri Aug 22 1986 12:0512
    .5 is right, it would take a lot of people reading it and keeping
    up with it.  
    
    A few years ago someone did an experiment.  The idea was to get a letter
    across the country without using the mails.  You had to give it
    to some one who would pass it on to someone they knew who would
    pass it on, etc.
    
    It took the letter 6 days to get cost to cost! 
    
    Sally
    
71.8Let me stay filed under "T" for Tired.RSTS32::TABERIf you can't bite, don't bark!Mon Aug 25 1986 15:4421
Hee hee.... When I read the earlier comments in this note all I could
imagine was people I DIDN'T want finding me knowing where I was!!

I guess on the same vein, I'd want my anonymity protected... No, I
didn't rob a bank or anything.  I'd just like old relationships long
since lain to rest to stay that way.  You know, like seeing an old
lover on the street and ducking into a store so they wouldn't see you.
Not really knowing why that happens, but simply accepting that some
things are better off in limbo or finished.

How exhausted we'd all be if everyone could ressurect us at anytime
they wanted!

And a comment about ELF... I like it, but it's only as good as the folks
who keep it up-to-date, and some folks don't seem very interested in
that.  And its aggravating because if you suffer a name-change, there's
no cross-referencing.

'Nuff said for a Monday.

Bugsy
71.9this is scaryGUIDUK::SMITHTue Aug 26 1986 20:5013
    Consider carefully before deciding that just because you know where
    someone lives, that person wants anyone who asks to have the same
    information.
    
    An example.  Abusive husbands/partners/fathers will go to amazing
    extremes to find where their former victims are hiding.  Don't make
    it easy for them.
    
    Please respect people's privacy; pass a message along, perhaps,
    but don't publish personal information without permission.
    
    - Susan 
    
71.10GIGI::TRACYWed Nov 05 1986 15:053
    On the other hand, look at how many child support defaulters
    "disappear."  Maybe we could locate some of them this way!