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| 154.1 | | MOVIES::POTTER | http://www.vmse.edo.dec.com/~potter/ | Fri Feb 07 1997 09:12 | 7 |
| I would have thought that you can simply put the tag immediately after the
<BODY> tag, with a </FONT> tag just before the </BODY>.
What you may want to do is modify the tag to be <FONT SIZE="-1">
regards,
//alan
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| 154.2 | basefont size | CIMBAD::CROSBY | | Fri Feb 07 1997 13:04 | 20 |
| Alan,
Thanks for the response...let me clarify my question.
Many of my pages (http://cimnt.hlo.dec.com/cst/index.htm) use tables to
control format and to improve readability. Additionally, I am a fan of
a slightly smaller font size for various resons...mostly to get more info
on a screen without the need for scrolling.
To define font sizes in tables using the <font size = "x"></font> method,
you need to define it on a cell by cell basis (frankly, I haven't tried it
on a row by row or on a table basis). I was hoping to use the basefont tag for
the entire document, and them just use the <font siz...><> tag for exceptions.
I can't seem to get the basefont tag to work...and I'm feeling pretty dumb
about it.
cheers,
gc
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| 154.3 | | VMSNET::S_VORE | Smile - Mickey's Watching! | Fri Feb 07 1997 14:06 | 8 |
| This appears to work...
<body background="/images/site-background.gif">
<basefont face="Courier" size="4">
...with some browsers, at least. On my NT system, MSIE honours this,
NSGold only partially does.
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| 154.4 | | VAXCPU::michaud | Jeff Michaud - ObjectBroker | Fri Feb 07 1997 15:34 | 5 |
| > I can't seem to get the basefont tag to work...and I'm feeling pretty dumb
> about it.
It would help if you gave us a sample html of what you're
been trying to use.....
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| 154.5 | | VAXCPU::michaud | Jeff Michaud - ObjectBroker | Fri Feb 07 1997 15:35 | 6 |
| > <body background="/images/site-background.gif">
> <basefont face="Courier" size="4">
> ...with some browsers, at least. On my NT system, MSIE honours this,
> NSGold only partially does.
"partially"? can we be any more vauge :-)
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| 154.6 | | 8153::tecotoo.mro.dec.com::mayer | Danny Mayer | Fri Feb 07 1997 16:16 | 10 |
| > control format and to improve readability. Additionally, I am a fan of
> a slightly smaller font size for various resons...mostly to get more info
> on a screen without the need for scrolling.
According to whose screen? Yours? Some people have larger screens
and some have smaller screens. In addition, some people use the whole screen
for the window, some people use smaller screen. Try not to make too many
decisions for the user. Let them size the fonts for themselves.
Danny
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| 154.7 | | VAXCPU::michaud | Jeff Michaud - ObjectBroker | Fri Feb 07 1997 17:30 | 13 |
| >> a slightly smaller font size for various resons...mostly to get more info
>> on a screen without the need for scrolling.
> According to whose screen? Yours? Some people have larger screens
> and some have smaller screens. In addition, some people use the whole screen
> for the window, some people use smaller screen. Try not to make too many
> decisions for the user. Let them size the fonts for themselves.
As Dan said, the default font size in most browsers is settable
by the user. I already have my font sizes smaller than the
netscape default for example. When a document like yours uses
smaller than the default for the entire document, it makes it
very hard to read (sometimes I have to go and change my defaults
to read those pages, then set my default back afterwards, a pain!)
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| 154.8 | Basefont | CIMBAD::CROSBY | | Fri Feb 07 1997 18:13 | 10 |
| Good points all...
I assume a 640 pixel window...In the empirical research (not purely scientific,
but adequate) I have done outside Digital, 640 pixels with no browser
adjustments to font size is the "norm".
Has anyone surveyed the DEC community in any fashion to get a handle on the
population, or personality of the browsers out there?
gc
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| 154.9 | | VMSNET::S_VORE | Smile - Mickey's Watching! | Fri Feb 07 1997 18:20 | 5 |
| > "partially"? can we be any more vauge :-)
gaak, now that I've undone the changes, I can't remember which way it
went... but either the size or the fontface didn't change (I think it
was the fontface) and the other did.
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| 154.10 | | 8153::tecotoo.mro.dec.com::mayer | Danny Mayer | Fri Feb 07 1997 18:24 | 10 |
| I track all the HTTP_USER_AGENT fields of all browsers that download
from the IBG Software Distribution Server. I can therefore tell what browser
they're using. It doesn't tell you about font sizes being used. MSIE 3.0
will tell you something about the number of pixels, cf:
[HTTP_UA_PIXELS = 1024x768]
but that's about the best you'll get.
Danny
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| 154.11 | Code samples | CIMBAD::CROSBY | | Fri Feb 07 1997 19:23 | 9 |
| Re.: .4
Jeff, when I figure out how to copy from hot dog and paste into an Excursion
X-Window...I'll show you.
Thanks,
gc
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| 154.12 | Sample Code | CIMBAD::CROSBY | | Fri Feb 07 1997 20:12 | 32 |
| I figured out the copy/paste part...
Here is what I'm doing:
<tr>
<td align = left valign = top>
<H6>Report</H6>
</td>
<td align = left valign = top>
<H6>Text File Created</H6>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td align = left valign = top>
<FONT SIZE=-1>
D705OWNER
</FONT>
</td>
<td align = left valign = top>
<FONT SIZE=-1>
DFAB6705MERGED.TXT
</FONT>
</td>
</tr>
I had hoped to use a basefont tag at the beginning of the document..after the
body tag... but a <basefont size = "x"> has no effect,
regardless of the value of X.
?
gc
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| 154.13 | | VAXCPU::michaud | Jeff Michaud - ObjectBroker | Fri Feb 07 1997 23:19 | 15 |
| > Here is what I'm doing:
Sorry, I should of stated I was hoping to see what you were trying
that did not work, not what does work :-)
> I had hoped to use a basefont tag at the beginning of the document..after the
> body tag... but a <basefont size = "x"> has no effect,
> regardless of the value of X.
Maybe it's not able to deal with the whitespace between the
attribute name and the = sign, and the whitespace between the
= sign and the attributes value?
Also maybe try putting the BASEFONT tag inside the HEAD section
instead of the BODY for yuks.
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| 154.14 | won't work in tables | POLAR::SCHILDKRAUT | Don't seal home.... Share it! | Fri Feb 07 1997 23:27 | 12 |
| According to the DTD's, basefont won't work on data inside tables for
any of today's browsers. Further, SIZE is apparently the only basefont
setting that works for Netscape.
SOURCE: a realy good site i often use at home that lists all HTML tags
known to mankind, their usage, how each browser treats it etc... the
address to which i wrote on a piece of paper and forgot to bring with
me today.
reg's
-al
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| 154.15 | got it! | POLAR::SCHILDKRAUT | Don't seal home.... Share it! | Sat Feb 08 1997 00:00 | 3 |
| http://www.eskimo.com/~bloo/html/alphabet.htm
Select BASEFONT to see the tag's peculiarities
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| 154.16 | Basefont size | CIMBAD::CROSBY | | Mon Feb 10 1997 13:12 | 15 |
| Gee,
I'm not feeling quite so dumb....
Al, thanks for the pointer...I'll check it out.
Jeff,
I've tried putting the tag in all sorts of places with no effect...
I think Al's got it...
Thanks for the illumination....
gc
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