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Conference terri::web_authoring

Title:Welcome to WEB_AUTHORING
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Moderator:VAXCAT::LAURIE
Created:Tue Mar 05 1996
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:186
Total number of notes:1479

153.0. "How do you start designing web pages?" by PCBUOA::BAYJ (Jim, Portables) Wed Jan 29 1997 15:31

    Someone asked in another note about the ins and outs of hiring someone
    to design a website for them.  Many of the answers consisted of seeing
    the person's body of work, recommendation from satisfied customers,
    etc.
    
    This of course brings up the question, how does one get started
    designing web pages for a living?  I'm obviously not talking about the
    technical side of things, like learning Java, etc., but rather the
    "soft" side.  For example, when you've never published a web page for
    someone (you don't have any satisfied customers), and you find that you
    are being asked for references, etc., what do you do?  Its the old "you
    can't get the job without experience, and you can't get experience
    without the job" syndrome.
    
    You are right that every Tom, Dick and Harry has a web page out there
    hawking services (and "Jim", <blush> I do too).  But thats like getting
    your degree.  How do you get the "job", other than being in the right
    place at the right time.
    
    I've been pushing my dentist, my hairdresser, even my brother to let me
    do pages for them, but so far, nothing more than nibbles.
    
    jeb
    
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153.12903::FLEISCHERwithout vision the people perish (DTN 381-0426 ZKO1-1)Wed Jan 29 1997 16:3714
re Note 153.0 by PCBUOA::BAYJ:

> For example, when you've never published a web page for
>     someone (you don't have any satisfied customers), and you find that you
>     are being asked for references, etc., what do you do?  Its the old "you
>     can't get the job without experience, and you can't get experience
>     without the job" syndrome.
  
        Well, if you can afford to do some volunteer work, there are
        a lot of small non-profit and community groups that could
        benefit from having a web presence but could not pay for
        "professional" help.  Build some of those.

        Bob
153.2VMSNET::S_VORESmile - Mickey&#039;s Watching!Wed Jan 29 1997 18:162
re: .1   Talk to your local church, civic organization, kids' scout troop, etc --
many would love to have someplace free/cheap to put their schedules et al.
153.3JGODCL::BOWENShe&#039;s got all my money and is 8K kms awayThu Jan 30 1997 11:5117
    .1 & .2 are right
    
    Also, build one for yourself, take time and effort and make it good.
    
    I'm not talking bells and whistles, just a solid page with some simple
    frames and simple but eye-catching graphics.
    
    One I built had the flags of Europe on the left and when clicked the
    right frame would show the text of that countries national anthum and
    if the browser/machine supported it a .wav file would play.
    
    Blew the mind of a local company and won us a 12,000 guilder contract.
    
    It's worth nipping over to Microsoft and downloading the various
    site Builder stuff and playing at home.
    
    Kevin
153.4WOTVAX::HILTONSave Water, drink beerThu Jan 30 1997 21:116
    You can re-design my front page if you like, it need doing big time and
    I haven't had the time!
    
    Mail me to take up the offer ;^)
    
    Greg