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Conference 44.392::delphi_in_dec

Title:Borland Delphi conference
Moderator:BROUGH::DAVIES
Created:Tue Mar 12 1996
Last Modified:Fri May 30 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:33
Total number of notes:110

27.0. "Borland products on NT alpha" by NETRIX::"[email protected]" (Thomas Gaillat) Tue Mar 25 1997 15:49

Hi,

I am not sure it is the appropriate conference to ask my question, but I would
appreciate your help.
I would like to know whether some Borland products (delphi, c++, Interbase,
Intrabuilder Interclient) have been ported to Alpha NT or will they be?

If you know a contact name or any relevant info I will be more than happy to
hear from you.

Thanks in advance,

Thomas
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27.1Not as far as I know...HAL::SYSTEMWed Apr 02 1997 16:116
    As far as I know it none of borlands products are native to anything
    other than INTEL CPU's except for Delphi/AS400. Perhaps you could ask
    Borland directly and post the answer here.
    
    	Stephen D
    
27.2Borland porting to Alpha !BROUGH::DAVIESHype is a 4 letter word !Mon Apr 21 1997 12:0181
Three weeks is a long time in this business...

See the following note {near the bottom}

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                        -< The Digital way of working >-
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Note 5247.5                When it rains, it pours...                     5 of 5
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                        -< Sunshine follows the rain ! >-
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    .4 -
    
    >>>
    Again, when they delivered an AXP to our demo room 5 years ago and it
    had *NO* software to run (not even demos) we were told to "go fish" for
    demos on the net, build 'em ourselves.  
    >>>
    
    ?? Perhaps I missed something, but what possible relevance does
    comparing a situation of 5 years ago with todays reality ? 5 years
    is ancient history - sort of like comparing today with 286/386
    environment..
    
    >>>
    Until we have some OTHER things in our portfolio (i.e. like storage and
    networks), staking our future on alfer is risky at best. 
    >>>
    
    Are you trying to say we don't have storage or network solutions ????
    
    >>>
    The article is *NOT* disappointing - it's real.  More in the 3M area
    need to read it and get in gear to change the company.
    >>>
    
    Again, while I agree our marketing could certainly improve (todays
    ad's are definately better than 6 months ago, so it is improving..), 
    I do not agree that this article is real life - it is based on one
    persons msconceptions of what is really happening ... and our many
    doom and gloomers within Digital accepting it as fact.
    
    Bottom line is that we are (IMO) entering a new phase whereby Intel
    loses it's monopoly to AMD, Cyrix and Alpha and other chips such as
    Strong Arm... see .3 for pointers on articles whereby even the press
    are starting to wonder ..
    
    Also, reference the following review of current chip technology:
    http://www.heise.de/ct/english/9705154/
    
    Ok - so obviously , the sw needs to be there - that is absolutely
    correct. However, given most of MS's sw will be on Alpha shortly
    (BO, Word, Excel, VB, VC++, IE etc), Pro/Engineer, Softimage (other CAD
    partners as well- with the exception of Autocad who I beleive will be
    coming back to the fold shortly IMO), LOTUS Notes, Oracle (big
    time-reference http://www.oracle.com:81/NT/news/html/digital.html)
    are all examples where the SW is coming big time.
    
    Now, if the trend was really dying, would Borland have just announced
    they are doing a major port to Alpha ? Reference:
    http://www.borland.com/about/press/1997/digital.html and 
    http://www.digital.com/PR00T0/
    
    What about the TV industry starting to accept Alpha ? Reference:
    http://www.digital.com/PR00SR/
    
    Now that we are going back to the old model of a simplified sales
    force focussing on solutions (what a novel idea), many of our
    internal issues should also disappear..
    
    I've said it before and I still believe it - now is a good time to 
    buy DIGITAL stock :-)
    
    Course, someone might accuse me of being an optimist, but it's a lot
    easier than walking around with a rain cloud over my head !
    
    :-)
    
    / Kerry
    

27.3read it 45862::16.194.208.3::warder.reo.dec.com::sharkeyaWho am I now ?Fri Apr 25 1997 12:004
But not Delphi......

Alan

27.4NUBOAT::HEBERTCaptain BlighFri Apr 25 1997 15:346
Even worse - the Delphi IDE won't work with FX!32, so Delphi, as powerful
as it is, is incompatible with Alpha.

<sigh>

Art
27.5MARVIN::GOODWINPete GoodwinMon Apr 28 1997 10:344
    Do Delphi applications run on FX!32? I mean applications developed with
    Delphi, not Delphi itself.
    
    Pete
27.6NUBOAT::HEBERTCaptain BlighMon Apr 28 1997 22:268
I've run a couple of small Delphi 1 apps on my office Alpha with FX!32.
They're *fast*, too. Faster than VB apps. 

Chalk it up to my ignorance or whatever, but I was pleasantly surprised
when the apps came up looking like NT apps (I created them with DELPHI 1
on my home system running DOS 5 and Windows 3.1).

Art