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Conference mvblab::alphaserver_4100

Title:	AlphaServer 4100

Moderator:	MOVMON::DAVISS

Created:	Tue Apr 16 1996
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	648
Total number of notes:	3158

430.0. "4000to4100" by HGOVC::NANDAN () Fri Jan 24 1997 00:10

    
    Suppose a customer buys an AlphaServer 4000, and then later wants 
    to upgrade to an AlphaServer 4100, aside from the marketing 
    issues, what exactly needs to be done.
    
    Since the drawer is the same, I guess it is a change of the 
    backplane/motherboard/whatever. And all other parts should be 
    reusable. But then, what exactly is involved ?
    
    This is an attractive option to the customer - moving from 4000 to 
    4100 - something that would have meant a box-upgrade in the case 
    of 2000 to 2100.
    
    Can someone please let me know the details on this.
    
    Thanks in advance.
    
    Nandan

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
430.1	BOX UPGRADE FOR 4000 TO 4100	VYGER::HENDERSONL		`Fri Jan 24 1997 09:40`	15
	Sorry, but only a box upgrade is offered. Parts to order are; DA-51Z1J-AA AS4000 TO AS4100 UNIX UPG DN-51Z1L-AA AS4000 TO AS4100 WNT UPG DY-51Z1K-AA AS4000 TO AS4100 OVMS UPG The backplane and licences are the only difference but due to reason of ease of instalation and future 4000 Box strategy it was decided to only offer BOX swap upgrades with mandatory return of 4000 box. Les
430.2	does this mean system drawer	TROOA::MSCHNEIDER	[email protected]	`Fri Jan 24 1997 15:27`	3
	Sorry, but please interpret.... is this a system drawer complete swap? I still presume you keep the CPU and memory boards to move the new drawer?
430.3		POBOXB::BAK		`Fri Jan 24 1997 19:39`	9
	Yes this upgrade is a system drawer swap. You get new sheet metal + power supply + mother/IO boards. This way you get a tested base drawer. You transfer your CPU/memory +IO options. We determined that the probablity of doing damage by just shiping out a new motherboard was too high since to replace it is a total system teardown. Dennis
430.4	Thanks, and any comments ?	HGOVC::NANDAN		`Fri Jan 24 1997 21:20`	24
	Les, Martin & Dennis, Thank you for your informative responses. I read about a 4000A in earlier notes (don't know the details though). I guess thats the reason its preferable to do a box upgrade. i.e a 4000 to 4100 upgrade may be slightly different from a 4000A to 4100 upgrade. (Incidentally is there also a 4100A somewhere in the works?) However, the user usually is scared off by the words "box upgrade" since they think there is a higher cost involved. In this case we will have to be careful in using the words "system drawer upgrade" to imply the rest of the box - the pedestal/cabinet, SW shelves, etc remain the same. This, ofcourse, is besides the CPU, memory, I/O controllers that are reused. Any comments ? Nandan
430.5	Clarification	VYGER::HENDERSONL		`Mon Jan 27 1997 07:45`	5
	It is a system box swap, the CPU, Memory and PCI options are retained and used in the BA30A-AA 4100 Box (comes with the upgrade), only the BA30C-AA 4000 (original) Box is returned. Les
430.6		LANDO::CUMMINS		`Mon Jan 27 1997 09:31`	5
	Re: .4 What was planned to become the 4000A is now being called an AlphaServer 4000 with an I/O upgrade. See note 351.* if you need more information. The I/O upgrade has not yet been announced.
430.7		LANDO::CUMMINS		`Mon Jan 27 1997 12:47`	2
	Check out note 7.24 if you want more details about 4100 and 4000 upgrades..
430.8	Thanks!	HGOVC::NANDAN		`Tue Jan 28 1997 05:43`	6
	Les & Cummins, Thanks for the comprehensive responses. Nandan