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Conference mvblab::alphaserver_4100

Title:AlphaServer 4100
Moderator:MOVMON::DAVISS
Created:Tue Apr 16 1996
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:648
Total number of notes:3158

394.0. "4100 and NT 4.0 : when ?" by SOS6::BERNARD (Bernard Ourghanlian, Alpha Resource Center) Tue Jan 07 1997 13:23

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394.1need an update, pleaseWKOL10::WALLACEDavid Wallace, SBU Sales, @WKOWed Jan 08 1997 08:596
394.2Minimal Progress as of January 8, 1997POBOXB::GENTWed Jan 08 1997 11:4620
394.3SOS6::BERNARDBernard Ourghanlian, Alpha Resource CenterThu Jan 09 1997 01:417
394.4questionWKOL10::WALLACEDavid Wallace, SBU Sales, @WKOThu Jan 09 1997 11:558
394.5Original blitz in 93.25MOVMON::DAVISThu Jan 09 1997 16:353
394.6WNT V4.0 SP2 is better for mostRICKS::OPPThu Jan 09 1997 22:0416
394.7Games probably have higher priority then NTSTAR::jacobi.zko.dec.com::jacobiPaul A. Jacobi - OpenVMS Systems GroupFri Jan 10 1997 13:3123
394.8Thanks for the ratingsRICKS::OPPFri Jan 10 1997 21:3921
394.9Text of message from Product ManagerPOBOXB::GENTMon Jan 13 1997 12:5981
394.104100 and NT 4.0 : when ???ALFAM7::BAUMERTFri Jan 31 1997 05:4310
Are there any news?
We have ordered a 4100 to benchmark BAAN IV on it.
Should we postpone that?
Till when?

Thanks for your replies!

Heidrun Baumert
Software Prtner Engineering
394.11WNT 4,0 Progress IndicatorPOBOXB::GENTFri Jan 31 1997 09:4420
    Hello All,
    
    *** Please use this with caution because we have not finished full
    *** qualification.
    
    NT4.0 with SP2 and a patch has achieved successful overnight runs on
    the 8400 and 4100 machines. The new kernel is being tested on the
    original TPC/C work load that showed the original problem and
    preliminary results look good.
    
    Assuming that the TPC/C runs complete satisfactorily, expect a hot fix
    to be posted the first week in February.
    
    I will send out a BLITZ message and add a reply to this note when I
    know the final results and have the pointer to the hot fix.
    
    Thank you all for your patience - I am very appreciative of your
    handling of this problem.
    
    Very best regards - ted
394.12Is there a fix yet?MAIL2::DERISEThu Feb 13 1997 16:321
    Is the hot fix available yet?  Its mid-Feb. and yet no update.
394.13soon...MOVMON::DAVISFri Feb 14 1997 09:345
    I believe the goal was 21-FEB release, may be delayed a week or two
    because Microsoft needs to do some additional testing.  We'll post as
    soon as it's available.
    
    Todd
394.14Feb 14th - Its Imminent!POBOXB::GENTFri Feb 14 1997 10:299
    Hello All,
    
    Thank you for your patience - the posting is imminent. The mini field
    test went very well. I will be sending out a blitz as soon as I have
    the message that the fix is posted. Please be sure to read the
    README's.
    
    Thanks ted
    
394.15Hotfix is posted, now the questionNWD002::SKRABUT_LALarry SkrabutSat Feb 15 1997 09:4713
    	I have noticed that MS has posted the HOTFIX.
    
    ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/bussys/winnt/winnt-public/fixes/usa
    /nt40/hotfixes-postSP2/Alpha-fix/
    
    (sorry the above line was too long)
    
      ALPHA40.EXE            1462 Kb    Sat Feb 15 00:17:00 1997 
      README.1ST              978 bytes Sat Feb 15 00:09:00 1997
    
    Per the read me it only applies to Multi-Processor platforms, what give
    to this story, are a 4x00 and other single processor alpha boxes ok?
    
394.16WNT 4.0 Fix PostedPOBOXB::GENTMon Feb 17 1997 07:28114
    The following BLITZ messgae was set to distribution on Feb 17th. Thanks
    again to you all for your patience.
    
    My thanks to Matt Buchman of DECWest, John Vert and Steve Woods of
    Microsoft for fixing this problem. Thanks to you all for your handling
    of this problem. 
    
    ted gent 
    
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      BLITZ TITLE: Alpha Server 2000/4000 Families - Windows NT 4.0
 
                                                DATE: February 17, 1997
      AUTHOR:Ted Gent      			TD #: 
      DTN:223-6530         
      ENET:POBOXA::GENT  	   		CROSS REFERENCE #'s:
      DEPARTMENT:SBU Engineering		(PRISM/TIME/CLD#'s) 
                                                
         					
                                                        
      INTENDED AUDIENCE: U.S/EUROPE/GIA		PRIORITY LEVEL: 1 
                         
                                                 (1=TIME CRITICAL,
                                                  2=NON-TIME CRITICAL)
      =====================================================================

Subject : AlphaServer 2000/4000 Family Products, Windows NT 4.0

Affected System: Alpha Server 2000/4000 running Windows NT 4.0

  There is  a  bug  in  Windows  NT  4.0,  Windows NT 4.0 Service Pack 1 and
  Windows  NT  4.0  Service  Pack  2  on  multiprocessor Alpha systems, e.g.
  AlphaServers  2000,  2100,  2100A,  4000 and 4100.  This bug causes memory
  pool  corruption that causes the system to crash, typically with a "System
  Service Exception" bug check.

  This problem  will  be  resolved  in Windows NT 4.0 Service Pack 3.  As an
  interim   solution,   customers   may   upgrade   their   Windows  NT  4.0
  multiplrocessor  AlphaServers  to Windows NT 4.0 Service Pack 2, and apply
  the  "hot  fix"  (QFE)  available  from  Microsoft  via anonymous FTP from

  ftp://ftp.microsoft.com
  /bussys/winnt/winnt-public/fixes/usa/nt40/hotfixes-postSP2/Alpha-fix/

  >> Please note that I split the path name to make it fit 80 columns <<
  >> If you go direct please type the complete path on one line.      <<

  There are 2 files in this direectory:
  
    ALPHA40.EXE               1462 KB   Sat Feb 15 00:17:00 1997
    README.1ST

  The README.1ST file is appended to the end of this blitz.

AlphaServer 4100 and the HCL
----------------------------

  Please note  that  the  availability  of  the  QFE  does NOT mean that the
  Alphaserver 4100 is on the Microsoft Hardware Compatibility List.  It does
  mean   that  the  QFE  will  now  allow  the  4100  to  run  the  Hardware
  Compatibility  Tests.   It  is estimated to take two more weeks before the
  4100 is listed on the HCL.


README.1ST Contents
-------------------

NOTE:  This update is to be applied only to multi-processor Alpha machines
       running Windows NT 4.0 with Service Pack 2 installed.

Installation Instructions:

* Download one of the self-extracting executables from the list below, and
  place it into an empty temporary directory on the computer to be hotfixed.

  - Alpha40.EXE  Hotfix for the Alpha platform

* Type the name of the hotfix (Alpha40, for instance).  The hotfix will
  self extract as shown below:

C:\ALPHA-FIX>ALPHA40

---

PKSFX (R)   FAST!   Self Extract Utility   Version 2.04g   02-01-93
Copr. 1989-1993 PKWARE Inc. All Rights Reserved. Registered version
PKSFX Reg. U.S. Pat. and Tm. Off.

Searching EXE: C:\ALPHA-FIX\ALPHA40.EXE
  Inflating: HALRAWMP.DLL
  Inflating: HOTFIX.EXE
  Inflating: HOTFIX.INF
  Inflating: NTKRNLMP.EXE
  Inflating: NTOSKRNL.EXE
  Inflating: Q156410.TXT
  Inflating: README.TXT
---

* Follow the instructions in the extracted Readme.txt file.

mb/tg 02/17/97



394.17How?NYOSS1::MONASCHI wrote the DECmate gamesMon Feb 17 1997 20:018
    Assuming we pass the H/W compat tests over the next 2 weeks...
    
    When will we begin shipping WNT 4.0 and how are we going to do it? 
    Remastered CD's with SP3?  Floppys with SP3??
    
    Thanks,
    
    Jeff
394.18when to use the fix?WKOL10::WALLACEDavid Wallace, SBU Sales, @WKOTue Feb 18 1997 09:2510
    Re. .16,
    
    The Blitz indicates that this patch is only to be applied to MP
    systems.  Is it advisable to also apply it to single CPU systems, or is
    it okay to install NT 4.0 SP2 on a single CPU system and then wait
    until SP3 comes out to update the system?
    
    Regards,
    David.
    
394.19More of the sameCHOWDA::GLICKMANwriting from Newport,RIWed Feb 26 1997 13:166
    My customer just got a 4100 with Windows NT 3.51.  It's a single CPU
    system.  I would also like a reply to .18 in regards to what path
    to take to get to 4.0.  I also would like to know how the customer
    gets 4.0.
    
    Appreciating any responses.
394.20gotta buy 4.0MOVMON::DAVISWed Feb 26 1997 17:367
    I think you can get a 4.0 disk from Digital.  I know you can get it
    from Microsoft.  The hot fix is on the web, which will be in service
    pack 3, which will also be on the web.
    
    Maybe someone more familiar with the NT upgrade process can add more.
    
    Todd
394.21Part number??CHOWDA::GLICKMANwriting from Newport,RIThu Feb 27 1997 09:451
    Part number for Windows NT 4.0 for the Alphaserver 4100?