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Conference yukon::christian_v7

Title:The CHRISTIAN Notesfile
Notice:Jesus reigns! - Intros: note 4; Praise: note 165
Moderator:ICTHUS::YUILLEON
Created:Tue Feb 16 1993
Last Modified:Fri May 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:962
Total number of notes:42902

780.0. "Lesson in Deception" by FABSIX::T_TEAHAN () Fri Aug 18 1995 20:46

      
    
        I had been listening at the time to what i thought was a christian
    radio station some years back and was not familiar with the voice of
    the speaker. I marveled at the flow of Godly wisdom the speaker
    apparently had and enjoyed his preaching on the Power of God. I was
    inspired at the moment during his preaching to the end of his so
    called, sermon. I thanked the Lord for the insight that he had given
    the speaker. As i approached the radio to shut it off, the commentator
    came on after a commercial that followed the speech and he appreciated
    very much the speech, as i did, of nation of Islam leader, Louis
    Farrakhan. Farrakhan mentioned Gods power, his love, with charisma,
    authority and what appeared knowlegde. There was truth in all of
    Farrakhans speech, prepared in a way to deceive my ear that day and i
    knew the lord, convicted of his spirit, familiar with his word. This
    was not the type of speech we hear now of Farrakhan and his boldness of
    what he thinks is truth, it was like Charles Stanley preaching on God
    without mentioning jesus' name. God has shown me a lesson in deception
    that night.........in christ,  thomas
    
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780.1TOLKIN::JBROWNThe just shall live by faith.Mon Aug 21 1995 16:4512
    Oddly enough, I've had the same impression after talking with my Moslem
    friend and while visiting some beautiful Mosques when I was in Egypt. I
    have been told more than a few times, especially by my Moslem friend,
    and our Nubian tourguide, that there is only one God and that the 
    reason *their* God sounds like *our* God is because He is the same.  
    How can that be true?  I was under the impression that they worshipped 
    [the name escapes me now].  He's obviously not God the Creator. 
    
    Janet
    
    P.S.  I should know more about this topic but I have been very lax in
    my studies. 
780.2Christian Bibles, in Arabic, call God "Allah"COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertMon Aug 21 1995 18:009
>    reason *their* God sounds like *our* God is because He is the same.  
>    How can that be true?  I was under the impression that they worshipped 
>    [the name escapes me now].  He's obviously not God the Creator. 

Arabic speakers, Christian and Moslem, use the same word for God: "Allah".

There is no God but Allah.

/john
780.3AllahCSC32::KINSELLAMon Aug 21 1995 18:139
    
    Yes Janet - while it is true God translates into Allah in Arabic,
    a reading of the Koran will reveal that while they believe they
    worship the God of Abraham, His nature is not the same as the God
    of the Bible.  While they accept Jesus as a prophet, they deny His 
    deity and believe that christians have perverted the word of God 
    as given by His final prophet Mohammed, the writer of the Koran.  
    
    Jilla
780.4the answer is in the BibleOUTSRC::HEISERwatchman on the wallMon Aug 21 1995 19:374
    Many religions and denominations worship God and Jesus.  All I have to
    ask is God who?  Jesus who?
    
    Mike
780.5ICTHUS::YUILLEHe must increase - I must decreaseTue Aug 22 1995 05:3829
Hi Thomas, 

Louis Farrakhan is not an ordinary Moslem.  He is a significant leader of
the 'black moslem' group.  The supremacy of the black races is fundamental
to their teaching.  Once when visiting on the doors, I (+ friend) met a black
man who was sincerely troubled by these views, and he lent me a video tape
of a Louis Farrakhan address.  We went back to discuss it, but he (and his
friend who was also concerned) were really more interested in the gospel
than in whether Farrakhan's philosophy was right opr wrong.

It's a while ago now, but I do remember that Louis Farrakhan's address
described all mankind as originating from the black races, and evil being
selected into the white races via genetic manipulation on the Isle of 
Patmos!

It was emotive rather than rational, but it had appeal for people who felt
discriminated against and severely disadvantaged in both western culture,
and in the Islamic world. 

My friend could not feel that it made sense, but was torn because he had
apparently been under some pressure not to 'betray his race' by rejecting
this teaching.  The confusion over origins extended to what they should be
called.  Even 'African' is unacceptable as a name coined by white people,
and he was left asking "Who am I?".  A very pertinent question,
spiritually!  But as I said, it's some years back, now, and I can't
remember more than brief glimpses, though more has come to mind as I typed.

					God bless
								Andrew
780.6Lesson in DeceptionFABSIX::T_TEAHANTue Aug 22 1995 19:0312
    Andrew,
        Thanks for your input. I am aware that Farrakhan is not a "regular"
    Moslem and have learned much about him since my first encounter of him
    on the radio some years back. The Moslem faith by itself is one that im
    cautiously aware of. My point of letter on Lesson in Deception is to
    stress the point of the deceipt in what can appear to sound good.    
          Farrakhan said nothing to "scare" me off upon his broadcast that
    night, only attract. When i found out it was him, i had known enough
    about the nation of ISLAM, and with my conviction in Christ, by the
    grace of God, to know the important differences.      
                          Thomas