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Title:The CHRISTIAN Notesfile
Notice:Jesus reigns! - Intros: note 4; Praise: note 165
Moderator:ICTHUS::YUILLEON
Created:Tue Feb 16 1993
Last Modified:Fri May 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:962
Total number of notes:42902

730.0. "Missions and Missionaries" by BBQ::WOODWARDC (between the Glory and the Flame) Tue May 16 1995 01:15

    Missions and Missionaries: Why do we need them?
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    A funny thing happened to me the other day. Out of the blue, a dear
    Sister in the Lord asked me "Have you thought of becoming a
    Missionary?"

    My (rather flipant) answer was "I'd only go to a real heathen country -
    like the United States of America!"

    Her answer (dead serious) was "We need you."

    We then went on to discuss the fact that there are Australian
    Missionaries in the US, and US Missionaries here in Australia.

    It it wasn't so sad, it'd be funny.

    I've been reading a book by Mary Cundy "Better than the Witch-Doctor" -
    about her experiences as a Dispensary worker in Nepal. Now, Nepal is
    just a little out of the way for me.

    My church is also into supporting (and sending) Missionaries. We have
    sent Missionaries to Vanuatu, Papua-New Guinea, the African Continent,
    Pakistan, Far Northern Queensland and the Northern Terriory in
    Australia.

    Why all this activity? Sure there are needs - for example, the
    Missionaries in PNG are at a Medical Centre providing hospital care
    (including surgery). Some of the stuff they send for publication in
    the newsletter that I edit are editted fairly heavily! Some of the
    stuff is just *too* gross!

    And of course, the Great Commission'.

    But I am also mindful of a song (forget who sings it) that goes
    something like "Please don't send me to Africa, I don't think I've got
    what it takes."

    I think too of one of Keith Green's last concert's where he said that
    the last order we (as Christians) received from God was "Go!"
    Matt.28:19,20.

    I know, that realistically, for me it would take nearly a decade before
    I was prepared for 'The Field'. And that includes *much* study! Both
    technical (Computing) and Theological. And that doesn't include the
    time needed to get me to a state where I would be ready (willing?) to
    serve.

    So, why do we send Missionaries?

    Why don't we go ourselves?

    Why do we go ourselves?

    Discuss.
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730.1ICTHUS::YUILLEHe must increase - I must decreaseTue May 16 1995 06:2260
Hi Harry,

�    Discuss.
			Certainly Sir!!!  Currently discuss-ting...

�    So, why do we send Missionaries?
�    Why don't we go ourselves?
�    Why do we go ourselves?

Whether we go or stay (whatever that means in our context), we need to be 
sure that the place we're in is where the LORD has for us now.  It may not 
be His place for us tomorrow.  But it needs to be now.

The great commission was to go into all the world, but it was preceded by
the command to preach first in the local area, gradually expanding
(Jerusalem -> Judea -> Samaria -> rest off the world). Acts 1:8 expands on
Matthew 28:19, and Luke 24:49 points out that they should wait for the Holy
Spirit's power beforehand too. 

From this I understand that we should be able to represent the LORD in the
difficulty of our immediate domestic and cultural situation before we rush
off to manipulate other cultures!

This is an easy principle to understand.  It is 'what we are' rather, even,
than 'what we say' that communicates to hte people we live with.  It is no
good trying to teach the most correct doctrine if the attitudes and
disposition we manifest are ungracious, unloving, selfish, or otherwise
unholy and manifestly different from the character of the LORD Jesus.  If 
we can't portray His image amongst those who can read us closest (being in 
our own culture), we don't stand much chance if we also have another 
culture to contend with.

I have heard of missionaries who have gone more out of escapism than out of 
evangelistic zeal, who have ended up in dire straits, where the LORD is sadly 
misrepresented.  This isn't saying that most - or even many - are like that, 
but it is to stress that we need to hear God's voice for where we should 
be.

If you (generic) feel that the great commission is a burden and call which
needs no further qualification, then that may well be an indication that
you personally should be looking for where the LORD would equip you to
serve.  But the (spiritual and practical) equipping is still a prerequisite,
under His guidance.  Also, that burden should not be taken as a license to
turn it into a guilt trip for others.  I'm not saying you're doing that,
Harry - just that I've seen it done.  Neither am I saying that your sister-
in-the-LORD was doing that.

Our first responsibilty is to walk so close to the LORD that if He says to
us (directly, or through someone else, and usually both would confirm the
other) 'Go!', our hearts are ready to getupandgo.  Via whatever training
may be needed.  That should take away the liability to use 'unprepared' or 
'training' as an excuse to fob off the LORD's call.

Ultimately, when this life has been completed, what counts is what we have
done in obedience to Him.  Not what we have done extra that He didn't call
us to (whether at home or abroad).  And only in the true perspective, then,
will we see indisputably what we already know in our hearts, if we can only
admit it.  That He is worth all we have and are.... 

							Andrew 
730.2AUSSIE::BELLCaritas Patiens estTue May 16 1995 10:165
We (as a family) give up two weeks of our holiday each year to go as
missionaries to a Australian country town, as well as helping support several
friends who are missionaries in various parts of the world.

Peter.
730.3Goers and GiversCSC32::KINSELLATue May 16 1995 13:2433
    Well Harry,
    
    I think the difference is a matter of calling.  Missions is no easy
    task, as I'm sure you know from reading the bulletins from PNG.  The
    people that I know who want to be missionaries have felt a call very
    strongly.  They know without a doubt that God is sending them.  I have
    one friend and his now fiance that both feel called to ministry with
    Wycliffe Bible Translators.  I however are more in the same boat as you
    thinking 'gee is this something God desires of me' and at the same time
    thinking 'oh no, suppose I have to go someplace where I have to do the
    equivalent of *camping* - yikes!.'  Now this is not a fear that keeps
    me up at nights.  I'm not feeling very burdened about it. Sometimes I
    just wonder about it when I'm thinking about what I should be doing for
    God.
    
    However, while some went out from Jerusalem, others stayed and
    supported the ones who went out.  I feel this is biblical too.  I think
    we need to make sure that we have a global view of our local ministry. 
    A few people sent out can change the world.  The bible says that 12 men
    turned the world upside down.  Through our giving we can enable that
    ministry. I think God desires both goers and givers.  We all have
    different callings, we need to be obedient to what God is telling us. 
    Now that may change over time.  When God told Abraham to go...that's
    all He told him...and he went!  To me...that alone showed the type of
    faith Abraham had.  I would have been asking God to have a seat to
    discuss the details.  :'} I also know others who God has broken to the
    point of them saying "Send me Lord" and then He didn't.  He just wanted
    them to be willing.  Now I don't pretend to understand that, but
    perhaps it's a preparation for the future.
    
    Well I'll stop rambling now.
    
    Jill  
730.4REOELF::PRICEBDeuteronomy 33:12Sun May 28 1995 18:0120
    Hi Harry
    
    I guess the attitude we all ought to have is one of "I am a missionary
    - wherever I am". I think we 'ordinary' christians seem to think that
    missionary's are super-christians with a special calling, but, the fact
    is, we are all called to be missionaries; the question is "Where"?
    
    Personally speaking, I have sought God quite regularly regarding where
    He wants me to be (especially after watching the Keith Green video you
    refer to) and I know for a fact that I am currently where God wants me
    to be. Does this mean I am not a missionary? or that I am of no use to
    God at the moment? NO!!!!! I am called to be a light to the world right
    where God has placed me. We all need to be aware of this calling and
    also to be constantly listening for His instruction. To be honest, I
    think God would need to give me 10 scriptures, 5 prophecies, a
    writing-on-the-wall command and a spritual transformation before He'd
    get me in some nasty, hot country with big spiders and snakes etc.
    
    Yours cowardly
    Ben