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Conference yukon::christian_v7

Title:The CHRISTIAN Notesfile
Notice:Jesus reigns! - Intros: note 4; Praise: note 165
Moderator:ICTHUS::YUILLEON
Created:Tue Feb 16 1993
Last Modified:Fri May 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:962
Total number of notes:42902

704.0. "Church Programs to help the hurting and lost" by GAVEL::MOSSEY () Fri Mar 24 1995 17:02

    This note was prompted by some of the discussions going on in notes
    699 and 702.
    
    What kinds of programs does your church run to meet people's more
    tangible/physical needs?  Soup kitchen?  Divorce/single-parent support
    groups?  Clothing closet?  Shelters?
    
    There is (was?) a Pregnancy Crisis Center in Leominster, MA.  While it
    was not directly associated with any particular church, it was started
    10 - 12 years ago by some members of the Leominster Assembly of God. 
    It was definitely a Christ-centered organization.
    
    Also in the Fitchburg/Leominster area, there are several churches 
    (of different denominations) that hold dinners for the poor and
    homeless almost everynight of the week (i.e., Monday evening Christ
    Church holds the meal, Tuesday, St. so-and-so, etc.)  There is also an
    organization, Our Fathers Table, that serves meals every day of the
    week, as well as prepares food baskets for the needy; and a shelter -
    Our Fathers House.
    
    More specifically:  do any of your churches have support/counseling
    groups for survivors of abuse (of any type)?  I really feel this is an
    area that the church doesn't want to address (at least in my area.) 
    People think, "Oh, i'm saved/you're saved/Praise God, isn't everything
    great!"; while inside, the peoples heart's are hemorrhaging!  Everyone
    who attends church did not necessarily grow up in the church, in a
    christian family (not that that matters, abuse happens - increasingly -
    in christian homes.)  I attended a seminar at Gordon-Conwell Seminary in 
    Wenham, MA last Saturday - "Mobilizing Victims of Sexual Abuse" by 
    Dr. Dan Allender, who has done extensive work with Dr. Larry Crabb.  
    It was excellent - it was radical.  He explains how through severe abuse 
    of any kind, but especially sexual abuse, satan is able to rob you of 
    faith, hope and love.  Without faith and hope, you can never have the 
    proper love for people (agape love).  (He goes into all this in *great* 
    detail - I don't have the time (or my notes) to explain it throughly.)  
    Many people think the be-all and end-all is forgiveness: being able to 
    forgive your abuser(s).  That's just the beginning!  While that 
    (forgiveness) is imperative to healing, he shares how to go beyond that 
    and use these wounds to bring others to Christ.
    
    So...does anyone have an outreach to victims of abuse they can tell me
    about?
    
    Karen 
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704.1MIMS::CASON_KMon Mar 27 1995 13:4919
    When dealing with cases of abuse (spousal or child) one of the
    hinderances to counseling or programs are government guidelines.  A
    minister has confidential protection except in the area of abuse.  If
    Mrs. Jones comes to me as a minister and says that she needs help
    because she has this problem or that problem and the end result is she
    takes it out on her child, I must report that to the proper government
    agency or I become criminally liable.  That is not to say that there
    are not cases where you would want the benefit of government resources
    but by and large the government SOP is either swift action or total
    apathy.  They will either take the child, lock up the parent, then 
    investigate, or do nothing at all until the child is seriously hurt 
    or dead.  The area of counseling in general is a slippery area because 
    unless the minister is trained (certified is even better) as a counselor, 
    and many aren't, then the potential for lawsuits escalates.  Many pastors 
    simply opt not to put themselves in that position unless they are asked 
    to.  It's a sad state but very real.
    
    Kent
    
704.2TOKNOW::METCALFEEschew Obfuscatory MonikersMon Mar 27 1995 13:5414
>    So...does anyone have an outreach to victims of abuse they can tell me
>    about?

A member of my new church participates (leads?) in an outreach to something 
I cannot tell you about in this forum.  (Hint.)

My former church participates in supplying food to one of the local food
shelters (once a month, with four other churches, I think) and also a
meal for the shelter every week, other week, or so (I don't remember).

By working with other churches, the burden is shared.  Not bad, says I, if
you can't do it all by yourself.

Mark
704.3Recovery groups in Bolton and Harvard, MADKAS::DKAS::WIKOFF_TTanya Wikoff, MR01-3 297-2087, Home is wherever your loved ones Fri Jun 02 1995 15:4524
    There is are a couple counciling/outreach/bible-study groups either
    hosted by people in our church or as a ministry that is supported by
    our church, which is Trinity in Bolton, MA.  There is a Thursday night 
    mixed group that is a Christian 12-step ministry which began at Trinity
    and has grown to be separate but related to our church.  Men and women
    in this group may be tackling tackling alcoholism or co-dependent
    behavior.  For more info, contact Hartley or Karen Webster in Harvard
    MA at (508)456-3942.
    
    There is also a Women in Recovery bible study which started small and 
    has grown over the past few years.  Part of what they do is pair a
    person with another woman who has been in the group longer for more
    private one-on-one, as well as group bible-study.  Some of the women 
    in this group have had to deal with sexual and physical abuse.  There 
    may have been a small group that met that dealt specifically with 
    sexual abuse, but I don't know the specifics.  The contact person for 
    this womens group is Anne Deufel in Bolton, (508)779-6593.
    
    For any other contact information, please feel free to call me at home
    in Sudbury, (508)443-1375.
    
    Love in Christ,
    Tanya Wikoff
    
704.4CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowMon Apr 15 1996 16:4726


 Yesterday on "The Coral Ridge Hour" Dr. D James Kennedy spoke on the church's
 responsibility to those on welfare.  It was an inspiring message, a bit
 convicting in that he was challenging churches to help to reduce the
 dependance on welfare.  In the brief piece after his message, several
 churches in the south that sponsor programs to reduce the welfare roles
 were presented, along with numbers that showed how effective they were.
 One church bought a few local businesses and hired people on welfare, at
 the same time running schools for the children/families free of charge,
 where work ethic and skills as well as the basics of education were taught.
 It was quite encouraging hearing the people who participated in these programs
 speak and share their experiences.  

 It has me wondering if churches (mine included) should be spending the money
 for big church buildings (which I know are needed) when perhaps that money
 could be better spent on such programs which could have an impact on
 generations.

 It also was heartening to read about the good that Christians are doing,
something which I doubt we'll see on the evening news.



Jim