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| 664.1 | | BIGQ::SILVA | Squirrels R Me | Fri Jan 20 1995 13:24 | 46 |
| | <<< Note 664.0 by ODIXIE::HUNT "Remember your chains are gone" >>>
| >Bing, does it really matter why anyone would want to participate in here?
| Purpose, in my mind, always matters. Why do Companies put out Mission
| statements? Why do churches issue statements of beliefs and mission statements
| Why do clubs issue charter statements? Without purpose there is chaos and
| frustration.
Bing, what you wrote above are guidelines to run by. You and I both
know that the guidelines are sometimes pushed aside. But guidelines aside, it
doesn't address the issue as to WHY one would want to participate in here.
| If my purpose for participating in this conference is to build up and
| encourage my brothers and sisters in Christ (and to be encouraged), while
| another's is to win theological arguments, and still another's purpose is
| to tear down conservative Christianity, then frustration and discord will
| result. We will be working against one another because our goals are different
What we would have are people sharing their views. Others will see these
views, and will possibly see something that answers a question they may have
had. Who knows. If we put limits on things, at least admit they are human
limits, and not God's.
| >Maybe that is something that is wrong. Everyone is so afraid of
| >upsetting anyone else, that nothing with full substance ever gets said.
| What channel have you been watching? As a moderator, It hasn't been my
| experience that everyone is afraid of upsetting others.
Isn't that what I said????
| However, the Bible stresses in II Tim 2 that we are to avoid "foolish and
| ignorant speculations knowing that they produce quarrels". It also states that
| as the Lord's bond servants, Christians "must not be quarrelsome, but be kind
| to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, with gentleness correcting those
| who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the
| knowledge of the truth."
The knowledge of Truth is God. For people who want to try and be so
much like Him, there seems to be a lot of human put barriers in the way.
Glen
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| 664.2 | | CSLALL::HENDERSON | Friend will you be ready | Fri Jan 20 1995 14:02 | 19 |
|
It probably doesn't really matter why people participate in the IBMPC
conference, but those who DO participate are those who have one thing in
common...IBM compatable PCs. Those who come to talk about Apple products
are reminded of the purpose of the IBMpc conference and they go elsewhere.
This conference, as the guidlines state, is for the sharing of those who
accept the Bible as authoritative, inerrant, etc.
do you go into the IBMpc conference and challenge their existance and
lambast them for not allowing Apple owners to discuss their issues?
Jim
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| 664.3 | | BIGQ::SILVA | Squirrels R Me | Fri Jan 20 1995 14:46 | 5 |
|
Jim, go into the REDSOX notesfile and tell me they only talk about the
Red Sox. You won't be able to.
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| 664.4 | | JULIET::MORALES_NA | Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze | Fri Jan 20 1995 15:10 | 1 |
| Glen, Why do YOU note in here?
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| 664.5 | | BIGQ::SILVA | Squirrels R Me | Fri Jan 20 1995 15:12 | 6 |
|
Because I want to. :-) There are topics in here that we will agree on,
and that I learn from. There are other topics where we don't share the same
views. But one can grow in here if one tries.
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| 664.6 | | JULIET::MORALES_NA | Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze | Fri Jan 20 1995 15:14 | 4 |
| Well, then you have your answer. Let's move on.
Thanks,
Nancy
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| 664.7 | Purpose vs. Title | ODIXIE::HUNT | Remember your chains are gone | Fri Jan 20 1995 15:25 | 27 |
| The Red Sox example is faulty. The title of a conference may or may
not be a good example of the purpose of the conference. I went into
the Red Sox note. I didn't see any kind of purpose statement. FWIW, a
directory of the conference displayed that the vast majority of entries
(at least the early entries) were germane to the Red Sox.
Mike Heiser should be able to give feedback on the Boston_Celtics
conference which has become the defacto NBA basketball conference.
There is a topic for each NBA team, which was established by the
conference moderator (an example where the title of the conference does
not line up with the purpose of the conference). In the case of the
Christian conference, a purpose has been established and communicated.
> Because I want to. :-)
That's kind of like telling your child "Because I said so".
>There are topics in here that we will agree on, and that I learn from.
>There are other topics where we don't share the same
>views. But one can grow in here if one tries.
I haven't seen too many of these topics that we agree on (probably
because the basis for discussion is different).
In Christ,
Bing
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| 664.9 | | BIGQ::SILVA | Squirrels R Me | Fri Jan 20 1995 16:00 | 5 |
| | <<< Note 664.6 by JULIET::MORALES_NA "Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze" >>>
| Well, then you have your answer. Let's move on.
Well... actually Nancy, you have YOUR answer. :-)
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| 664.11 | | CSC32::J_OPPELT | Whatever happened to ADDATA? | Fri Jan 20 1995 16:33 | 2 |
| Maybe we should redirect the anti-bible rhetoric to the Red Sox
notesfile!
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| 664.12 | | CSLALL::HENDERSON | Friend will you be ready? | Fri Jan 20 1995 16:37 | 4 |
|
Great Idea!
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| 664.13 | My Reasons | YIELD::BARBIERI | | Mon Jan 23 1995 13:37 | 18 |
| Hi,
I have to admit having a large desire to discuss doctrine,
but only in issues that are relevent to what I consider to
be fundamental gospel concepts and where what I believe the
truth is illuminates on God's love where a contrasting view
does not.
I think it is probably true that usually I am more tenacious
than the Spirit would have allowed, i.e. I am sinning against
my Lord and I should seek His discernment more in this area.
Besides that, I basically look in here for people who are in
need and pray or for encouraging stories like the couple Kent
did; the one on the indian who became a Christian and the one
about the little girl.
Tony
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