Conference yukon::christian_v7

    how do you wield a sword in a peaceable sort of way?
    
    :-)

    I can add a personal endorsement on Spiritual Warfare.  If you have to
    play video games then this is by far preferable to many of the popular 
    games available.  My oldest son has this game and he loves it.  You travel
    from one section of the grid to another collecting pieces of armor and 
    "fruit" of the Spirit (grapes, apples, bananas, etc...).  On the way you 
    are accosted by swarms of demons who can be defeated by firing the fruit 
    at them but you are also assisted by angels.  At one stage, after puting on 
    the full armor and collecting the fruit, you march into hell and attack 
    Satan.  My only concern with this game is the same concern I have with
    most of them, violent or not.  It takes hours to finish a game.  

    Has anyone ever heard of "Where in the World are Joseph and the
    Amazing Technicolor Dream Colt?" put out by Nav Press.
    
    I saw it at their outlet store yesterday for $10 because the
    box was damaged.  Thinking about getting it.
    
    Thanks for any info,
    pam
    
    

    "Where in the World are Joseph and the
        Amazing Technicolor Dream Colt?"
                                  ^^^^
    :-)
    
    changes the story just a bit, don't it?
    
    just trying to picture Joseph carrying around this very brightly
    multicolored small (err... is it donkey or horse? or both?)
    
    :-)
    anyway, it made me smile... 
    :-)
    

     Actually that wasn't mispelled - it is about Joseph on a 
      brightly colored pony I guess they roam around during
      ancient times and explore - I should have read the box
      more thoroughly.
    
    It's a take of on Where in the World is Carmen SanDiego
     I guess.

 I'm back into Flight Simulator again ;-)




Jim

 ...And World Series Baseball for SEGA ;-)

    Netrek wins hands down.  None of this PC stuff for me!

    Regarding violence in video games.  Heard an interview last weekend on
    radio with some women who are trying to get some less male-dominated
    themes into video games... and are having a hard time doing so.
    
    James

�    radio with some women who are trying to get some less male-dominated
�    themes into video games... and are having a hard time doing so.

The form of compulsion exploited by video character games is typically
reaction / control, developing the aggressive side of ones nature rather
than the Christian virtues of humility, meekness, etc.  It is hard to see
how a game could be effectively developed on the latter lines, as the
purpose of 'winning' would dominate the attitude; to 'display humility' in
order to 'win' would be negating the very attribute it purports to use. 

Perhaps if a game randomly inverted the points system, so that the one 
with least points was deemed to be exhibitting the most generous nature,
but not a predicatable inversion, so that you couldn't reliably manoever a
win by going for least points .... ;-} 

I don't think that a truly 'Christian' game could be effectively developed,
as the character / motivation in playing is liable to conflict directly
with the character and motivation idealised by the game, and the game
itself then loses its bite. 

							....Andrew 

>    Regarding violence in video games.  Heard an interview last weekend on
>    radio with some women who are trying to get some less male-dominated
>    themes into video games... and are having a hard time doing so.

They need to do some market analysis as to who is on the PC specifically
with games.  If PC games are market driven, which they are, then there is
a small market for non-male-dominated themes (translated, I assume, as
shoot 'em up, spatial relations, etc. type games).  In other words,
create and distribute the proposed non-male-dominated games and see how
the market responds.

Second, marketing is not always in response to demand.  Sometimes it creates 
demand.  Perhaps this is how "some women... are trying to get some less
male-dominated themes."   Simply putting out software won't change market 
demands.

I guess what I'm trying to say is demand drives the market, and they'll
need to change what people are demanding, or at least redirect it.
If what is offered is less challenging, less exciting, forget it.

MM

Incidently, in regards to Andrew's note which addresses James' note:
I don't believe James' comment really address Christian video games
when he says "less male-dominated" themes.  

MM

�      <<< Note 483.13 by TOKNOW::METCALFE "Eschew Obfuscatory Monikers" >>>

� Incidently, in regards to Andrew's note which addresses James' note:
� I don't believe James' comment really address Christian video games

Although I only pulled in James' note, I was harking back to Paul's note 
also, but I tend to minimise �quote� to save the deja-vue blurrr...

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   Well, this seems to be as good a place for this info as any... I was
   browsing through a home-schooling internet newsgroup the other day,
   and came across an advertisement for an online catalog for Christian
   software.  I sent mail requesting the catalog, and received a copy
   last evening.    
   
   Here are the major headings listed in their catalog:
   
        Bible Study
        Desktop Publishing
        Edutainment
        Church Administration
        Additional S/W of Interest
   
   There seems to be quite a bit of stuff listed - the catalog is over
   1100 lines long.  Anybody who wants to see this catalog can send mail
   to US4RMC::"[email protected]"  and request one - their response
   to my request was less than 24 hours.
   
   Standard disclaimer applies... I don't know who these folks are or how
   good their stuff is - I'm just posting this FYI.
   
   Peace,
   
   - Tom