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Conference yukon::christian_v7

Title:The CHRISTIAN Notesfile
Notice:Jesus reigns! - Intros: note 4; Praise: note 165
Moderator:ICTHUS::YUILLEON
Created:Tue Feb 16 1993
Last Modified:Fri May 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:962
Total number of notes:42902

458.0. "Placeholder " by JULIET::MORALES_NA (Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze) Mon Apr 25 1994 14:07

    Will start a topic soon.
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458.1CHTP00::CHTP04::LOVIKMark LovikMon Apr 25 1994 14:081
    Leave it to Nancy! :-)
458.2CSLALL::HENDERSONIt will be worth it allMon Apr 25 1994 14:097

 A topic on placeholders?  



 This oughta be good ;-)
458.3CHTP00::CHTP04::LOVIKMark LovikMon Apr 25 1994 14:101
    Hmm...I wonder if I can find any Scriptural basis for placeholders. :-)
458.4JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon Apr 25 1994 14:115
    You guys are up for delete status...
    
    BTW, here the GREAT news about Lucente leaving? 
    
    YAAAAAAAAAAAHOOOOOOOO!!!
458.6for the DEC-politically challengedFRETZ::HEISERno D in PhoenixMon Apr 25 1994 14:121
    Why is Lucente leaving GREAT news?
458.5CHTP00::CHTP04::LOVIKMark LovikMon Apr 25 1994 14:131
    So, is this a placeholder for a senior VP position?
458.7RICKS::PSHERWOODMon Apr 25 1994 14:1510
    cuz he's taking a position at the business grad school at Carnegie
    Mellon (where I went for undergrad).
    
    :-)
    
    I think Nancy just wanted the x58
    
    if we keep this up she could get 458.58
    :-)
    
458.8BSS::GROVERThe CIRCUIT_MANMon Apr 25 1994 14:269
    Is "placeholder" anything like "Promise keeper"...
    
    Heeeeee..!
    
    I'm at home now, getting ready for my trek to Denver, to attend the
    career fair. Thought I'd take a minute to read...
    
    Placeholder indeed!
    
458.9JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon Apr 25 1994 14:347
    Sheesh you guys are going to make my using this note topic for
    something serious [which it was planned for] a big clean-up task.. move
    this to topic 14, move this topic 11, move that to topic 166,
    "etceterrra, etceterrra, etceterrra."
    
    Anybody know where that last line came from?
    
458.10CHTP00::CHTP04::LOVIKMark LovikMon Apr 25 1994 14:353
>    Anybody know where that last line came from?
    
    Nancy's fingers? :-)
458.11JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon Apr 25 1994 14:365
    He was a deceitful, male chauvenist pig! [LUCENTE]
    
    I believe he is most reponsible for where are today, and Palmer is
    very closely right after him for having allowed this power-hungry
    individual to milk this company dry to its marrow [sp].
458.12Chargers and who took by $180million?SIERAS::MCCLUSKYMon Apr 25 1994 14:594
    Palmer is in front, since he hired Lucente.
    
    Place holder, are you referring to the "Charger" (The plate, frequently
    set between the silverware and used to place the appetizer plate upon)?
458.13CHTP00::CHTP04::LOVIKMark LovikMon Apr 25 1994 15:014
>    Place holder, are you referring to the "Charger" (The plate, frequently
>    set between the silverware and used to place the appetizer plate upon)?
    
    Nah.  The places we eat at use a placemat for that. :-)
458.14JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon Apr 25 1994 15:213
    .12
    
    Good point Daryl.
458.15Wasn't going to yell MARY in a crowd of Protestants, but, hey...COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertMon Apr 25 1994 15:3355
Wow!  A wonderful place to put this hymn, because then Nancy can just
delete this note and any discussion that shows up in reply to it when
she does her cleanup to use the topic for her own purposes...

[Bb]	: CCC C FFFF FFFF aaa F GGGG GGGG	   	(Daily, Daily)
          bbb d cccccc aa bb GG FFFFFFFF :
	  aaa b cccc aaaa ccc c bbbb GGGG
	  bbb b aaaa FFFF aaa a GGGGGGGG
	  CCCC FFFF FFFF; GGGG aaaa aaaa; bbb d cccccc aa, bb GG FFFFFFFF!
	  

Ye who own the faith of Jesus,          Blessed were the chosen people
Sing the wonders that were done         Out of whom the Lord did come;
When the love of God the Father         Blessed was the land of promise
O'er our sin the victory won,           Fashioned for his earthly home;
When he made the Virgin Mary            But more blessed far the Mother,
Mother of his only Son.                 She who bare him in her womb.

		Hail Mary; Hail Mary; Hail Mary, full of grace!

For the King of men and angels		Thus prepared, and thus exalted,
Chose her out of all he made,		Lowly still, and still unknown,
And in robes of grace and glory		Mary waited till the fullness
Her humility arrayed;			Of her destiny was shown,
With the radiant sun he clothed her,	Till the Maid became God's Mother,
At her feet the moon he laid.		And her nursing arms his throne.

		Hail Mary; Hail Mary; Hail Mary, full of grace!

Wherefore let all faithful people	"Magnify, my soul, God's greatness;
Tell the honour of her name;		In my Saviour I rejoice;
Let the Church in her foreshadowed,	All the ages call me blessed,
Part in her thanksgiving claim;		In his praise I lift my voice;
What Christ's mother sang in gladness	He has cast down all the mighty,
Let Christ's people sing the same.	and the lowly are his choice."

		Hail Mary; Hail Mary; Hail Mary, full of grace!

Let us weave our supplications,		May the Mother's intercessions
She with us and we with her,		On our homes a blessing win,
For th'advancement of the faithful,	That the children all be prospered,
For each faithful worshipper,		Strong and fair and pure within,
For the doubting, for the sinful,	Following our Lord's own footsteps,
For each heedless wanderer.		Firm in faith and free from sin.

		Hail Mary; Hail Mary; Hail Mary, full of grace!

For the sick and for the aged,		Praise, O Mary, praise the Father,
For our dear ones far away,		Praise thy Saviour and thy Son,
For the hearts that mourn in secret,	Praise the everlasting Spirit,
All who need our prayers today,		Who hath made thee ark and throne;
For the faithful gone before us,	O'er all creatures high exalted,
May the holy Virgin pray.		Lowly praise the Three in One.

		Hail Mary; Hail Mary; Hail Mary, full of grace!
458.16kickbacks from both sidesFRETZ::HEISERno D in PhoenixMon Apr 25 1994 15:421
    So was Lucente IBM's secret weapon?
458.17RICKS::PSHERWOODMon Apr 25 1994 15:447
    poor nancy,
    she has so much work to do if she wants to use this note for noble
    porpoiseessessss
    
    I still think she just wanted the 458 snarf
    
    :-)
458.18RICKS::PSHERWOODMon Apr 25 1994 15:452
    we should do it for her... :-)
    
458.19CHTP00::CHTP04::LOVIKMark LovikMon Apr 25 1994 15:452
    Yeah, but her conscience wouldn't let her just grab it and claim
    "snarf!". :-)
458.20RICKS::PSHERWOODMon Apr 25 1994 15:461
    woa... I'm seeing tha future!
458.21CHTP00::CHTP04::LOVIKMark LovikMon Apr 25 1994 15:471
    Nah, you're just seeing the correction. :-)
458.22Isn't our salvation our placeholder?ATLANA::SHERMANDebt Free! Thank You, Jesus!Mon Apr 25 1994 16:490
458.23JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon Apr 25 1994 17:3611
    .22
    
    Yeah it is!  The only sane person in here today.
    
    The rest of you guys are going to soon see the demise of this note.
    
    :-)
    
    P.S. 
    
    Markel you were right.
458.24CHTP00::CHTP04::LOVIKMark LovikMon Apr 25 1994 17:395
>    P.S. 
>    
>    Markel you were right.
    
    Do you mean to tell me that you just learned that? :-) :-)
458.25JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon Apr 25 1994 17:411
    Pride goeth before a fall.. :-) :-)
458.26CHTP00::CHTP04::LOVIKMark LovikMon Apr 25 1994 17:428
>    Pride goeth before a fall.. :-) :-)

    BZZZT.  WRONG!!!!
    
    I *CHALLENGE* you to find that in the Bible! :-)
    
    (Hint:  It's in the same book that says "Money is the root of all
    evil".)
458.27JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon Apr 25 1994 17:443
    did I sayeth iteth waseth ineth the Bibleth..???
    
    Tell me howeth dideth you geteth that holeth in your panteths?
458.28I think I know...?SIERAS::MCCLUSKYMon Apr 25 1994 18:101
    Isn't that in the book of Paul?
458.29ICTHUS::YUILLEThou God seest meTue Apr 26 1994 06:4515
Ok, so the misquote is representing :
Pride goes before ........................................ a fall
Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.

							Proverbs 16:18

Would you rather be warned of a fall, or of impending destruction....?

I guess people took the 'easier' of the options, like the 'love of money' 
one....

Nancy, please feel free to delete this one and put something serious in....


							Andrew
458.30NOTAPC::PEACOCKFreedom is not free!Tue Apr 26 1994 11:3013
re: .9

>>    "etceterrra, etceterrra, etceterrra."
>>    
>>    Anybody know where that last line came from?
    
   Well, since you're going to be cleaning up anyway...  :-)
   
   Wasn't that Yule Brenner (sp?) in the musical adaptation of Anna and
   the King of Siam?
   
   Tom  (yet another piece of meaningless trivia surfaces from the
         quagmire of my memory  :-)  ... but is it right?..)
458.31EVMS::PAULKM::WEISSTrade freedom for His security-GAIN bothTue Apr 26 1994 11:417
>(yet another piece of meaningless trivia surfaces from the
>         quagmire of my memory  :-)  ... but is it right?..)

Yup, it's right.  Or at least the piece of meaningless trivial surfacing from
my own personal quagmire matches yours.  :-)

Paul
458.32JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeTue Apr 26 1994 12:463
    We have a MATCH people.  your quagmires are in fact one and the same.
    
    The Kind and I...  :-)
458.33silliness, and moreCUJO::SAMPSONTue Apr 26 1994 19:3215
	WOW!  The things one can read in the ever-changing, turbulent
backwaters of the Christian notesfile!  Gee, Nancy, you must have actually
*met* Ed Lucente, or some of his *victims*, to say that about him.  You
ordinarily say such *sweet* things about people!

	Then Mr. Covert is emboldened to sing a hymn of praises to Mary,
of all people, right here among Protestants!

	What is it about this mysterious Topic 458 that causes us to
lose our inhibitions?

>>    The Kind and I...  :-)

	And let's not forget its sequel, "The Good, The Bad,
The Ugly, and, Best of All, Me!"
458.35JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeTue Apr 26 1994 19:465
    P.S.
    
    The KING AND I ... :-)  Another bad-finger day.
    
    
458.36TOKNOW::METCALFEEschew Obfuscatory MonikersThu May 05 1994 15:023
I protest!

Thought the title was funny, John!  :-)
458.37JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu May 05 1994 15:401
    Little late there Markem.. :-)