| Title: | The CHRISTIAN Notesfile |
| Notice: | Jesus reigns! - Intros: note 4; Praise: note 165 |
| Moderator: | ICTHUS::YUILLE ON |
| Created: | Tue Feb 16 1993 |
| Last Modified: | Fri May 02 1997 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 962 |
| Total number of notes: | 42902 |
Don't know where to enter this one...
Just a nit - but "sinner saved by grace", without picking nits, is a
misnomer.
One who *is* saved by grace *is* (present tense) transformed from the
world of darkness into His marvellous light. The old man *is*, truly,
literally - dead.
One who *is* saved *is* (present tense) a saint (a called-out-one).
This saint may sometimes yield his members to sin as an instrument of
unrighteousness, but that is not how the new man desires to act -
precisely because the new man is *not* a sinner. The new man, the
saint, *desires* to do the will of Him who loved him and gave His life
for him.
Check out Romans chapters 5-8, Ephesians 2, Galatians 2:20, etc.
For that reason, I don't think the current "message" that shows up when
you log in is correct. If it sounds like I'm nit-picking, I'm really
not. There is a world of difference for the believer who rejoices in
his *true* identity in the Messiah (as the Bible teaches) rather than
what the evil one wants him to think.
Rejoice, beloved (and scratch that login message ;-)
Don't buy the lie,
Steve
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| 444.1 | Don't quite agree | SIERAS::MCCLUSKY | Wed Mar 23 1994 16:22 | 6 | |
Your logic would suggest that the previously sinning brother or sister
would sin no more. I thought that was only possible for the Lord Jesus
Christ. Although we may want to live the sin less life, are we not
bound to fall short of that goal? I agree, the old way is dead, but I
don't believe we will never err again. Our attitude is now a positive
one, instead of wallowing in our sin.
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| 444.2 | CHTP00::CHTP04::LOVIK | Mark Lovik | Wed Mar 23 1994 16:37 | 5 | |
The line is from the hymn "Only a sinner, saved by grace". Remember,
even late in his life the apostle Paul referred to himself as the
"chief of sinners". (1 Tim. 1:15)
Mark L.
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| 444.3 | CSLALL::HENDERSON | Friend will you be ready | Wed Mar 23 1994 16:45 | 14 | |
Yes, the line is from that hymn, and I love singing it...It reminds me that I am no better than anyone else who happens to walk into my church, except that somehow or other God got a hold of me and saved me..I like posting lines from hymns as a conference notice and I chose that particular line because we had sung the song in church recently.. I truly am only a sinner, saved by grace. Jim | |||||
| 444.4 | POWDML::SMCCONNELL | Next year, in Jerusalem! | Thu Mar 24 1994 08:42 | 19 | |
1) thanks for changing the login
2) i didn't say believers never sin, please re-read .0
3) yes, absolutely, only the L-rd is sinless. now - who is doing the
living (Gal 2:20)?
4) the other passages i qouted show the distinction between yielding
one's flesh/members to sin (as an instrument of unrighteousness) or
yielding one's members to Messiah (as an instrument of righteousness).
i know i've recommended this before (and never have the address with me
to post here), but i strongly recommend "Lifetime Guarantee" by dr.
bill & anabelle gilham and "Birthright" by ? needham.
gotta roll (root canal - yuch)
steve
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| 444.5 | RICKS::PSHERWOOD | Thu Mar 24 1994 09:45 | 6 | ||
nice snarf, Steve....
What? This isn't CC?
oops....
:-)
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| 444.6 | TOKNOW::METCALFE | Eschew Obfuscatory Monikers | Thu Mar 24 1994 10:50 | 20 | |
> 3) yes, absolutely, only the L-rd is sinless. now - who is doing the > living (Gal 2:20)? Preach it! Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. 1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: Please note the big two letter word in 1 John 2:1: IF (any man sin) and note that John writes... "that ye sin not." Will God provide? If you say you will try but will fail, you will. If you say you won't, and depend upon God, you won't! But IF you do anyway (if you slip and let yourself live instead of Christ), we have an advocate with the Father! Mark | |||||