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Conference yukon::christian_v7

Title:The CHRISTIAN Notesfile
Notice:Jesus reigns! - Intros: note 4; Praise: note 165
Moderator:ICTHUS::YUILLEON
Created:Tue Feb 16 1993
Last Modified:Fri May 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:962
Total number of notes:42902

377.0. "Heaven" by TOKNOW::METCALFE (Eschew Obfuscatory Monikers) Tue Jan 18 1994 12:42

My father called me last night.  Among other things he told me that his
Uncle Allen died; he was 98 years old.  he told me that during the
depression, Uncle Allen gave a tenth of his paycheck to his parents
to help then through.

Dad said he spoke with his cousin, relating and reminiscing.  She told him
that a few days earlier, she went to rouse Uncle Allen and he said "leave
me alone, I'm in heaven."   She asked if he saw [some named relatives who
passed on before] and he said yes.  He also commented that the music was
delightful.  He died a while later.

Now, I've just given you an account third-hand.  I have heard other similar
accounts.  (I've heard of near-death experiences and out of body experiences,
and by and large, I think the devil can use these experiences.  I don't
want to talk about those in this note string.)  I have heard of an account
about my mother-in-law whose heart stopped in a dentist's chair many
years ago but was sent back.  And of accounts of people where people they 
knew were recognized in those moments before moving on to heaven themselves.

I'm looking forward to heaven.  I don't believe it is a state of mind, but
that it is a real place.  I'll do what I must down here for the glory of
God; "I am invincible until God is finished with me."  But going Home
is going to be wonderful, folks.

What thoughts about heaven do you have?  I don't mind the humorous 
replies so much, but I would like to hear what you really think.
How firmly do you believe in a place where God reigns and evil has 
no place?

And what about angels?  One comment I heard was that angels are dispatched
(like when Gabriel (Michael?) came for Moses' body), and while I can 
neither believe or disbelieve it, I do not doubt that it may happen this
way; carried to the Father.  Anyway,  tell me.

Mark
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377.1USAT05::BENSONTue Jan 18 1994 13:1117
    I STRONGLY recommend the book, "Within Heaven's Gates" by Rebecca (?)
    Springer.  It is an account of her vision of heaven (apparantly written
    in the late 1800s).  It is most comforting.  I suspect those not
    suffering will find it more fascinating than comforting.
    
    I am anxious to be in heaven.  I think of being completely free from
    the lust of the flesh and how wonderful that will be.  I think of
    actually throwing my arms around Jesus's feet and hugging Him and
    worshiping Him - how wonderful!  I think of seeing the awesome majesty
    of God the Father and I shudder in awe.  And then there's what he has
    prepared.  It will be glorious, no doubt.
    
    No sorrow, no sadness, no tears, no disease, fruitful work and service!
    
    It will be spectacular!
    
    jeff
377.2JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeTue Jan 18 1994 13:1510
    When I think of Heaven, I think of peace at last.  This life has had
    its turmoils, hurt, and emotional sufferings.  God's Grace here has
    been sufficient and to think of the explosion of His Grace all around
    me is beyond my human interpretation!  
    
    I think of the verse I Corinthians 2:9, Eye hath not seen, nor ear
    heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God
    hath prepared for those that love him!
    
    Do you love Him? :-) :-)
377.3Yes, I doRICKS::PSHERWOODTue Jan 18 1994 13:187
    I think Heaven will be a lot like Urbana, only warmer... :-)
    
    thousands, millions, of Christians, praising Him, and generally just
    being Christian to each other...
    
    [pleasant sigh]
    p  <><
377.4Eternity!POWDML::MOSSEYTue Jan 18 1994 13:4726
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    That's the same scripture that came to my mind when I read
    the base note, Nancy.
    
    When I think of the most wonderful, peaceful, beautiful, perfect
    place I've seen on this earth, it is not even comparable to
    what heaven is, for the scripture tells us we can't even imagine it!
    
    "For, now, we seek through a glass darkly, but on that day the 
    veil will be lifted from our eyes and we shall see Him as he is."
    (Obviously, not a direct quote -don't have the scripture reference - 
    matter of fact, I may have just merged 2 different verses.)
    
    For me, I look forward to the PEACE and REST that Heaven promises.
    When I'm tired, emotionally or spiritually, my soul just cries out 
    for that eternal rest and peace.  
    
    I read in one of Billy Graham's books he thinks there will
    be work in heaven, of course he has no idea what kind of work - but
    that we will need to occupied, accomplish something - we won't just 
    sit around the garden (when we're not praising God, of course!)
    
    Karen
    
    
377.5JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit&#039;s Gentle BreezeTue Jan 18 1994 14:009
    .4
    
    Wow Karen, its not coincidence is it! :-)  I, too, have heard that
    there will be work in Heaven... but before images start to conjure up
    remember this labor will be a labor of love.
    
    :-)
    Nancy
    
377.6CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Tue Jan 18 1994 14:1227

 I used to think that heaven would be just a bunch of us hanging out 
 praising God and singing and stuff.  As I grow in my faith, I too think
 there will be work to do and that each of us will have some responsibilities
 based on our accomplishments here on earth.


 I recently saw a man interviewed on the 700 club who had "died" in a car
 accident and been revived.  He reported the music as being indescribable,
 and spoke warmly about the encouter with loved ones who had gone before.


 
 I am ready to go when He calls, but there is sure a lot of work to do here.



 Jim.



 PS on a similar note, I also saw a man interviewed who reported that he
 had died and seen Hell...not too pleasant from what he had to say.



377.7makes me feel homesickDYPSS1::DYSERTBarry - Custom Software DevelopmentTue Jan 18 1994 15:4710
    I have studied and taught the book of Revelation many times over the
    last 15+ years. That book spends a lot of time describing heaven. I
    didn't spent a whole lot of time pondering the descriptions - until my
    dad died (he was a believer). He was the first person close to me who
    died and went to heaven. Now that I can picture him actually being
    there, those descriptions in Revelation are a whole lot more
    meaningful. I can visualize Dad there right now, seeing the glory of
    God in "person" in a way that I can barely just imagine.
    
    	BD�
377.8CNTROL::JENNISONUnto us, a Child is givenMon Jan 24 1994 14:2015
	Gee, and I was looking forward to Heaven so I could finally
	get some rest! ;-)

	I had a thought during the service for my husband's grandfather
	last week.  The priest was talking of us being united with papa
	in friendship when we get to heaven.  For an instant, I thought
	of the Papa I knew in the last few years - a tired, sad, hurting
	man who felt deserted and misunderstood.  Then, I realized that
	if Papa is in Heaven, he's the Papa my husband remembers - the man
	who couldn't get enough of his grandchildren, who loved them dearly
	and gave so much of his time and love to them.  My heart rejoiced at
	the thought of him being freed from all the pains of his later years.

	Karen
377.9ICTHUS::YUILLEThou God seest meTue Jan 25 1994 06:0029
The fullness of heaven is the reality we yearn for unattainably here.  It's 
the fulfillment of all our desires; not as feeding an insatiable appetite, 
but as just 'being' all that we are intended to be ... in His presence.

This mortal life of shadows, which is passing away is only the preparation.
 Use it well - anything not done here on the production line - in the
factory - isn't going to be done when it's completed, and on the job.  Our
great Creator God has given us 'time' to grow in faith, the reality of our
spirits, that we might be all that He plans for us for eternity.  What
isn't done 'now', we have to manage without. 

The wonder of heaven is that there is no longer any such thing as sin.  
Anything that enters our thoughts 'then' is right, good and acceptable.  We 
can fully enter into all that our hearts imagine, as we serve Him with joy.
(No! Mark... I didn't meant that!  Though maybe...;-).

In heaven there are no boundaries, restraints, limits.  "In Thy presence is 
fullness of joy, at Thy right hand are pleasures for evermore." (Psalm 16:11)

I *so* look forward to being there, but wish to press on to fulfill all 
that He offers me to be beforehand, that I might have the most to offer Him 
when I see Him face to face....

 "He brought me into the banqueting house, and His banner over me was love."
 "Thou hast ravished my heart ..."		Song of Solomon 2:4, 4:9

  ...He is altogether lovely, and we shall see Him! (1 John 3:2)

								Andrew
377.10COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertMon Jun 27 1994 10:4636
		Light's abode, celestial Salem,
		  Vision whence true peace doth spring,
		Brighter than the heart can fancy,
		  Mansion of the highest King;
		O how glorious are the praises
		  Which of thee the prophets sing!

		There for ever and for ever
		  Alleluia is outpoured;
		For unending, for unbroken
		  Is the feast-day of the Lord;
		All is pure and all is holy
		  That within thy walls is stored.

		There no cloud or passing vapor
		  Dims the brightness of the air;
		Endless noonday glorious noonday,
		  From the Sun of suns is there;
		There no night brings rest from labour,
		  For unknown are toil and care.

		O how glorious and resplendent,
		  Fragile body, shalt thou be,
		When endued with heav'nly beauty,
		  Full of health, and strong, and free,
		Full of vigour, full of pleasure
		  That shall last eternally!

		Now with gladness, now with courage,
		  Bear the burden on thee laid,
		That hereafter these thy labors
		  May with endless gifts be paid,
		And in everlasting glory
		  Thou with brightness be arrayed.

				Latin, 15th cent.; Tr. John Mason Neale, alt.