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| 288.1 | | PCCAD::RICHARDJ | Pretty Good At Barely Getting By | Fri Oct 08 1993 08:57 | 3 |
| Praying for your sister Theresa.
Jim
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| 288.2 | | CSLALL::HENDERSON | Friend, will you be ready? | Fri Oct 08 1993 09:50 | 8 |
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Praying for your sister, Ray.
Jim
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| 288.3 | | DECLNE::YACKEL | and if not... | Fri Oct 08 1993 09:55 | 1 |
| will also pray.
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| 288.4 | | CHTP00::CHTP04::LOVIK | Mark Lovik | Fri Oct 08 1993 11:03 | 10 |
| Praying for you and your family, Ray, for wisdom and comfort during
this time.
I'll agree with you, that I think it is a *very* poor example to claim
that everyone case of AIDS, cancer, etc., is the direct result of God's
judgement. Although God can (and probably has) used these and other
diseases as judgement or chastisement, to throw out a blanket statement
is very insensitive.
Mark L.
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| 288.5 | | TOKNOW::METCALFE | Eschew Obfuscatory Monikers | Fri Oct 08 1993 11:31 | 1 |
| ...as usual, Ray... you're (and yours are) in my prayers.
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| 288.6 | | JULIET::MORALES_NA | Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze | Fri Oct 08 1993 11:55 | 7 |
| Hi Ray,
Will be praying for your sister, Theresa, her friend, yourself and your
Mom. So much tragedy and heartache in your life right now. Ray, feel
free to write offline anytime.
Nancy
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| 288.7 | God Really Cares Ray | 38110::BARBIERI | God can be so appreciated! | Fri Oct 08 1993 12:57 | 8 |
| Hi Ray,
I've been praying for you for months brother and will
continue to do so.
I'll catch ya offline.
Tony
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| 288.8 | Praying, Ray | GRANMA::MWANNEMACHER | the ???'s kids ask | Fri Oct 08 1993 14:36 | 1 |
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| 288.9 | praying | CSTEAM::PARKER | OUN MATHE'TEUSATE' PANTA TA ETHNE' | Fri Oct 08 1993 16:25 | 0 |
| 288.10 | for all in need, really | JUPITR::MNELSON | | Fri Oct 08 1993 16:40 | 4 |
| Theresa, you and your family are in my prayers. May God's Will be
done for His glory and our salvation.
Mary
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| 288.11 | Praying | MIMS::GULICK_L | When the impossible is eliminated... | Sat Oct 09 1993 01:42 | 0 |
| 288.12 | | ZPOVC::MICHAELLEE | | Sun Oct 10 1993 02:10 | 8 |
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Prayer moves the Hand of GOD.
Will be praying for your sister for complete recovery and her
Salvation.
Mike
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| 288.13 | praying | GIDDAY::BURT | Plot? What plot? Where? | Sun Oct 10 1993 20:30 | 1 |
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| 288.14 | | GIDDAY::OLLIS | C'est Wot - A Cappella with bite. | Mon Oct 11 1993 01:36 | 3 |
| praying... May God's perfect will be done..
Stevo..
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| 288.16 | | CSLALL::HENDERSON | Only a sinner, saved by Grace | Mon Oct 11 1993 09:35 | 10 |
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Continuing to pray, Ray..
Jim
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| 288.17 | | AIMHI::JMARTIN | | Mon Oct 11 1993 11:33 | 16 |
| Ray:
I too will lift your sister up to the Lord as well as you and your
mother. I think it's amazing how some who are grounded in the Word,
"so to speak", come off with such statements. Did God pour judgement
on men like Job for example? I think not. What ever happened to ,
"The rain will pour on the righteous as well as the unrighteous"?
I think we should also be praying for the preacher you heard on T.V.
There is a vast difference between God judging and God allowing things
to happen!!
God Speed!
-Jack
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| 288.18 | | KAHALA::JOHNSON_L | Leslie Ann Johnson | Mon Oct 11 1993 16:43 | 9 |
| Oh Ray, my heart goes out to you. You know, I think our hope is not
so much in that our circumstances will change, but that God will
enable us to come through them and spend eternity with him. In the
last few years I have seen so many people suffer through disease and
loss, it seems to be coming faster and faster though that may just be
my perception. Praying for courage, peace, strength for your sister,
your Mom, and yourself.
Leslie
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| 288.19 | | ICTHUS::YUILLE | Thou God seest me | Tue Oct 12 1993 07:14 | 8 |
| Hello Ray,
Praying for you and your sister and mother... May the LORD bring you
rich comfort and peace in this heart-rending time, and a deep assurance of
His love to your sister, in particular.
In Jesus' love
Andrew
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| 288.21 | | ICTHUS::YUILLE | Thou God seest me | Mon Nov 08 1993 12:23 | 7 |
| � She just finished a very intense round of radiation treatments and the
� docs said that the brain tumor has shrunk almost to nothing.
Ray, grateful for that litle glimmer of light, and praying for more...
In Jesus' love
Andrew
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| 288.22 | | TOKNOW::METCALFE | Eschew Obfuscatory Monikers | Tue Nov 09 1993 09:45 | 8 |
| Had you on my heart this morning, and now I know why.
And, I have been trying to listen to the sound advice
to "do it now."
When the Lord prompts you (to pray, to speak, to do something),
don't wait; do it now.
I have been praying for you, Ray.
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| 288.24 | | JULIET::MORALES_NA | Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze | Tue Nov 30 1993 12:49 | 12 |
| .23
Ray, I am at a lost as to what to say to you... encouragement seems
trite, empathy is near impossible, and sympathy is undesirable...as it
feels too much like pity.
I can tell you my heart reaches out to touch your heart...with love and
compassion... I know it's not enough, but it's all I've got and I'm
eager for you to receive it... if you can... I know it's hard.
Nancy
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| 288.25 | | EVMS::PAULKM::WEISS | Trade freedom for security-lose both | Tue Nov 30 1993 15:02 | 7 |
| Nancy, you have a beautiful way of expressing yourself.
You expressed exactly what I felt - have often felt - on reading Ray's note[s].
Ray, hearts ache for you. Not just Nancy's, not just mine.
Paul
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| 288.26 | | CNTROL::JENNISON | John 3:16 - Your life depends on it! | Tue Nov 30 1993 15:11 | 9 |
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Ray,
I too will be praying for your mother, your sister, and you.
On the subject of suicide... this is one I've had to give more
thought to than I'd like, and will start a new note on the topic
as soon as time allows.
Karen
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| 288.27 | | GYMAC::PNEAL | | Fri Dec 03 1993 07:56 | 40 |
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Ray,
I'm not very good with words, especially on this topic, but I know
the pain that you, and your family, are experiencing. It is a
hard and painful road.
A very close friend of mine who'd endured 6 months of chemotherapy
stopped her treatment. She said at the time that it would be better
to die than to continue. She'd lost her hair, she could barely eat,
she threw-up what she did manage to get down, she was very weak and
she wanted to give up. My friend, although it was hard for both sides,
talked about this with her family. It was the best thing she did.
Together they researched alternative treatments. They decided on a
course of homeopathic medicine. After the first week her strength and
spirit returned. After some months her hair grew back, she had the
confidence to visit with friends and she stopped talking about suicide
or dying.
My friend was terminally ill - you must remember that - her chance
of complete recovery with chemotherapy was close to zero. For three
years she was a happy girl again and her quality of life was worth
the fight - to her.
I'm not recommending that you switch therapy on a whim or on my
suggestion. I'm just saying that you should talk openly with your
sister about how she feels and that will help all of you.
One last comment. My mother died of liver cancer 5 years ago - of all
the family I was the only one who sat down and talked about dying and
death with her. What I found incredible was that my mum wanted to talk
about it. She knew she was dying and she wanted to talk about that
with us. It was one of the hardest things I've ever done in my life but
it gave her the chance, and me, to say things that I'm grateful for
having had the chance to say.
It will help to talk. All the best.
- Paul\
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| 288.29 | | GYMAC::PNEAL | | Fri Dec 03 1993 11:01 | 25 |
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Re. i feel Jesus spits my prayers out like bitter stuff.
If it's any consolation Ray, your Sisters' cancer has nothing to do
with God or Jesus. We have poisoned ourselves. These terminal diseases
are of our own making. Not yours or mine but of society in general. It
is not a sin to die and it is not because we have sinned that we die.
It is because our chemistry is incompatible with what we do to
ourselves.
When my mum was dying I sat for long periods dwelling on the
theme of God. I'm not a Christian. I don't believe in God. I refused
then, and now, to believe that a compassionate God would have stood by
and let such a nice, warm, human being suffer in such a terrible way.
There can be no lessons to learn from such a death or from the pain
that my family has suffered. I cannot imagine a God who would require
such a thing.
If you do believe in God then do not be bitter at him. It isn't his
fault.
From what you said you do need to talk with your Sister. Find a
way past or through your mum. Best of luck.
- Paul\
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| 288.30 | Relocation notice | CHTP00::CHTP04::LOVIK | Mark Lovik | Wed Dec 08 1993 13:18 | 3 |
| Notes .30 through .38 were moved to a separate topic, number 340.
Mark L. co-mod
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