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Conference yukon::christian_v7

Title:The CHRISTIAN Notesfile
Notice:Jesus reigns! - Intros: note 4; Praise: note 165
Moderator:ICTHUS::YUILLEON
Created:Tue Feb 16 1993
Last Modified:Fri May 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:962
Total number of notes:42902

283.0. "EST / "The Forum"" by KALI::WIEBE (Garth Wiebe) Mon Oct 04 1993 12:19

Quick.  Who has documentation on "The Forum"?

A co-worker announced via e-mail to the entire hub group that he was going
to give a 5-minute presentation in a conference room here in LKG.  I went,
and he began speaking of a weekend seminar that "changed his life".

I asked him to identify the responsible organization, and he mentioned a name
of what I think was the sponsoring organization.  As I was hastily searching my
memory for associations, I spoke up again and asked, "is this not Erhard
Seminars Training (EST)".  He confirmed.  I immediately counter-challenged the
audience to visit my office tomorrow for counter-cult reference documentation. 

I have documentation on EST, but I vaguely recall receiving additional
material online.  Something about how it was renamed "The Forum" and is 
now making inroads in the business/industry environment.

Can anyone help me out further?  My resources here are good, but somewhat
dated. 
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283.1JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon Oct 04 1993 12:245
    Oh man, Garth... it's been a long time since I've heard about EST... 
    
    It must've been renamed, but I don't know a blasted thing about it.
    
    Nancy
283.2Any NLP???38110::BARBIERIGod can be so appreciated!Mon Oct 04 1993 13:306
      Hi Garth and Nancy,
    
        Just wondering...they wouldn't be into NLP (neurolinguistic
        programming) would they???
    
                                                    Tony
283.3can help later16421::HEISERAWANAMon Oct 04 1993 14:233
    I can reference my book of cults tonight, but that's the earliest I can
    get to it.  I recall that John Denver is heavily involved in EST and
    that they believe they can become gods as does the LDS church.
283.4KALI::EWANCOEric James EwancoMon Oct 04 1993 17:2514
I talked to the same person.

He gave me a brochure that gave the name of the organization as "The Landmark
Forum" (not merely "The Forum").

Garth and I found nothing suspicious or objectionable in the fancy glossy, but
Garth says apparently they're trying to be much more subtle, and obscuring their
real purpose initially.

Amazingly the brochure was as clean as a whistle.  I did not recognize the
company that is sponsoring the seminars, nor did I recognize any of the
endorsements.

Eric