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279.1 | | GYMAC::PNEAL | Ozapft is !!!! | Fri Oct 01 1993 09:53 | 21 |
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Well, I guess I should go first and tell you my thoughts, which were,
to use a broad brush :-), that it's sexist, patronising and deceitful.
The sexist aspect is pretty clear; Boaz comes to his field, in
which Ruth is working, and takes a fancy to her as though she is his
chatel (my impression); that Ruth lies at his feet.
The patronising aspect is also pretty clear; Boaz asks his men,
essentially, to make it easy for Ruth to gather the wheat and earn
some money.
The deceitful part is perhaps not so clear; Ruth slips from the bed
of Boaz such that nobody knows; Boaz knows he wants Ruth; Boaz deceives
the other guy into parting with the land using Ruth as a pawn.
- Paul.
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279.2 | | ICTHUS::YUILLE | Thou God seest me | Fri Oct 01 1993 10:58 | 83 |
| Hi Paul, thanks...
I guess the sexist aspect was inevitable, in a society where the different
roles and characteristics of the sexes was generally recognised, accepted
and valued.
� Boaz comes to his field, in which Ruth is working, and takes a fancy to her
Now that's pretty clear. Love just about at first sight. I can't help but
laugh when I read it and see him saying to his workers (rough paraphrase;-),
"Uh, she may not be familiar with our practices.... Don't embarrass her if
she walks off with the lions share of the harvest, in fact, encourage her
to take all she wants..." 2:14-15
But remember, before this, he's heard of her honourable reputation, her
care over her mother-in-law, and allegiance to the LORD. (2:11-12). That
is the grounds for his initial concern. It's only after their lunch date
in 2:14... (if you'll excuse the expression), that the friendship develops...
Hey, had the guy no natural modesty at all??? ;-) All his workers must
have known he was quite taken, if not totally besotted... But they
respected him (as I see in the mutual greetings, which honour the LORD, in
Ruth 2:4).
� The patronising aspect is also pretty clear; Boaz asks his men,
� essentially, to make it easy for Ruth to gather the wheat and earn
� some money.
Hmmm. It's his field and his farm. I only see this as his attraction to
her showing through. Does it have to be patronising to show love in a
practical way?
� as though she is his chatel (my impression); that Ruth lies at his feet.
� The deceitful part is perhaps not so clear; Ruth slips from the bed
� of Boaz such that nobody knows; Boaz knows he wants Ruth; Boaz deceives
� the other guy into parting with the land using Ruth as a pawn.
This is part of the levitical law. If a woman is widowed, she was not
expected to compete with the world for a living; the family of her dead
husband retained a responsibility for her livelihood. I guess they saw
things a little differently from us, and her life included a full marital
relationship, which would normally be assumed by the dead husband's
brother, where they were living as a family (Deuteronomy 25:5-10).
However, Ruth was a foreigner, so Boaz was apparently diffident about
assuming this position as a right. For redemption of land by a relative,
see Leviticus 25:25
I would read it that her mother-in-law, Naomi sees that there is some
attraction, and after some time - when the harvest is nearly about over
(2:23) - she gives Ruth some advice (3:1...). Her advice is to indicate
that Ruth (and, effectively, Naomi) puts herself (themselves) under Boaz'
legal protection, according to the levitical law.
Boaz accepts the responsiblity, and gives Ruth the grain (3:15) as a pledge
that he will see that they are provided for, bearing in mind that there is
a closer relative. The secrecy is so that Ruth's reputation should not
suffer through misunderstanding (she was still a Moabitess, whose actions
were likely to be misjudged or misunderstood).
Then Deuteronomy 25:5 is applied, in Ruth 4. Boaz approaches the closer
relative, on the basis of the land, and when he is willing to accept the
commercial advantage, brings in the more delicate matter of the for Ruth
(and Naomi). The other relative is already married, so cannot assume full
obligations towards the wing of the family in whose name the land is held,
so bows out, leaving the field (so to speak, but really, Ruth;-) to Boaz...
I wouldn't call it deceitful. Quite open and above board, by the
legitimate dealings of the day. Noew, when the honest intent is made
clear, the matter of the nocturnal visit to the threshing floor can be seen
in it's full social light, and actually becomes a public part of the events
which are recorded in Ruth. Had there been anything to be achamed of
there; had both their intents not been totally upright, I doubt we would
have the book in the canon of scripture.
But then, that's how *I* understand it. As a touching and sensitive love
story, of how God took the personal needs of individuals, and wove it into
a glorious part of His plan (as ancestors of the LORD Jesus, and many
detailed exciting facets).
Your perception may well, of course, still be different...
God bless
Andrew
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279.3 | | CHTP00::CHTP04::LOVIK | Mark Lovik | Fri Oct 01 1993 11:09 | 5 |
| Andrew,
My understanding agrees quite well with yours. Thanks for entering.
Mark L.
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279.4 | | 38643::GRIFFIS | | Fri Oct 01 1993 12:21 | 41 |
|
There is a Biblical priority placed upon
bearing children / being fruitful. For instance, the meaning
of the name of one of Joseph's two sons is "fruitful". God
said, "be fruitful". Look at the strivings of the two women,
Leah and Rachel, ( as well as Hagar and Sarah ). Being fruitful
was a major priority! It was regarded as a testimony of God's
favor. Being fruitful was granted to Abraham, to Jacob, and
to the posessors of the promises of God. It was regarded as
a sign of favor and blessedness! "Now you are the 'blessed'
of the Lord", Abimilech said when he saw the fruitfulness of
Abraham. Now, Not having children was regarded as a testimony
from God *against* a person/family. From Naomi's point of view,
she was essentially ruined. She believed unfruitfulness was a
God's testimony against her - and she could do nothing about it.
A bloodline of major importance was about to be wiped out. Now,
if the devil could have arranged for it to be wiped out, he would
have. ( Certainly, the slaughter of Hebrew male children in Egypt
and the slaughter of the children of Bethlehem are examples. )
But... praise God!!! The Lord would not let that happen, and
His angels were on assignment.
By having children through Boaz, Ruth was quite
literally raising up seed for Naomi's dead, ( note the parallel
to the resurrection ). Ruth removed the sting of bitterness
from Naomi. She kept the bloodline alive. She saved the name
of Naomi's family. She restored Naomi's "life", and the name
of the family that would help to bring Jesus into the world was
preserved through her. Praise God!! What she did was important.
Otherwise, it would not be in the Bible as a testimony.
Was there falseness, and lust in her heart? No,
Boaz was an older gentleman. He praised her for not following
( chasing ) after the young men, and demonstrating faithfulness
to to God, to the dead, and to her mother-in-law. Was Boaz in
lust after her? No way! If that was on his mind, he would have
taken her the moment that she made herself available. What was
on _both_ their mind was simply _being_ fruitful unto God and
doing the right thing before Him.
/G.
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279.5 | Ruth: A Rich Book | LEDS::LOPEZ | A River.. proceeding! | Fri Oct 01 1993 12:45 | 18 |
|
The story of Ruth is a wonderful one.
Viewing Boaz as a type of Christ and Ruth as a type of the church will
yield much enlightenment.
One aspect that I appreciate about Ruth, is that she was a Moabite (a
descendant of the incestual relationship between Lot and his daughters). The
Moabites were to be excluded from the tribes of Israel (unto the tenth
generation) because of their beginnings, yet Ruth not only received a portion
of the inheritance of Israel through Boaz, but became directly involved in
bringing forth Christ (she became a direct ancestor). Here again, we see God's
mercy and grace.
God is still seeking the proper persons to bring forth Christ.
ace
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279.6 | | 38643::GRIFFIS | | Fri Oct 01 1993 13:07 | 3 |
|
Exellent stuff, Ace!
/G.
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279.7 | | ICTHUS::YUILLE | Thou God seest me | Fri Oct 01 1993 13:26 | 5 |
| Another favorite aspect to me is that Ruth's mother-in-law was Rahab, also
a non-Israelite, and would have been able to empathise with Ruth's learning
the ways as a foreigner. Just a glimpse of God's graciousness...
Andrew
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279.8 | Matthew 1:5!!! :-) | 38643::GRIFFIS | | Fri Oct 01 1993 13:41 | 1 |
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279.9 | | POWDML::SMCCONNELL | Next year, in JERUSALEM! | Fri Oct 01 1993 14:16 | 7 |
| to say nothing of the Gentile's (Ruth) role in comforting Israel
(Naomi) and the sense of the Gentile's love, affection, and idebtedness
to the Jew (cf. Is. 40, Romans 9-11).
Indeed - the book of Ruth is rich.
steve
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279.10 | | TOKNOW::METCALFE | Eschew Obfuscatory Monikers | Fri Oct 01 1993 14:34 | 7 |
| .8
Matthew 1:5 And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth;
and Obed begat Jesse;
Interesting rendering in the KJV: Bo-oz (I believe)
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279.11 | | MKOTS3::MORANO | Skydivers make good impressions | Fri Oct 01 1993 15:02 | 15 |
| After having recently lead a Bible class on the book of Ruth, I also
think the book of Ruth is VERY RICH in Jewish meaning as well as
salvation.
Allow me to summarize:
The book is laid out into three distinct parts.
Chapter 1 & 1/2 of Chapter 2 - represents Grace.
Latter portion of Chapter 2 and Chapter 3 - represents Mercy
and Chapter 4 -represents Grace.
Grace - freely given that which we do not deserve.
Mercy - not given that which we do deserve.
Peace - receiving justly what we do deserve.
- Be back later - time permitting, PDM
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279.12 | | 38643::GRIFFIS | | Fri Oct 01 1993 15:22 | 6 |
| re: matt. 1:5
I think Andrew threw us a red Salmon.
:-)
/Greg
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279.13 | Setting the Context: The Era of the Judges | KAHALA::JOHNSON_L | Leslie Ann Johnson | Mon Oct 04 1993 13:44 | 46 |
| Understanding the context (historical, social, politcal, etc) of Biblical
events often helps me to understand the events much more than I would
otherwise. So before actually going through Ruth's story, I'd like to
very briefly look at its context.
According to what I've researched, the book of Ruth was probably written
around the time of King David, though it cannot be dated conclusively.
However, the actual events that are recorded in Ruth, occured during the
time of the judges in Israel. This time setting is established in 1:1 -
"In the days when the judges ruled, ..."
This was a dark time in Israel's history. It occured between the time when
Joshua led the people and the establishment of the monarchy. It was marked
by a turning away of God's people from God (apostacy), by corruption, and
scandels. There was not an adherence to moral standards on the part of the
populace as a whole. Judges 21:25 puts it this way: "In those days
Israel had no king; everyone did as he saw fit." Because of the people's
unfaithfulness, they were allowed to fall into the hands of raiders and
marauders from other groups around them.
Although God let the people be chastised, He did not abandon them completely.
Instead he raised up judges for them. The Hebrew term which has been
translated "judge" does not primarily mean a legal arbitrater, but rather
it is a deliverer or savior. Judges 2:16 shows us the purpose of these
people whom God raised up as judges for His people: "Then the Lord raised up
judges who saved them out of the hands of these raiders".
I think that one of the neat things about the Bible is that it does not
try to hide or deny meaness, immorality, or wickedness of people - not even
of its protagonists. It portrays people the way they really are, and these
days with the horrors and atrocities we hear about from places like Bosnia,
Somalia, and our own cities and country sides, we cannot claim that their
behavior was any more primitive or "unenlightened" than the behavior of
people today. But just because a particular behavior is written about in the
Bible doesn't mean that God condones or favors this behavior. For a contrast
with the way that Boaz and Ruth came to be married, read about how wives were
attained for the surviving Benjamites after most of them had been slaughtered.
(Judges 21:20-23). Many, (maybe most) of the events recorded in the book of
Judges are violent, sad, and dark.
It is against this time period that the story of Naomi, Ruth, and Boaz is set.
I found the story to be one which shows God's grace for people who put their
trust in Him, and are obedient to His law, and who show kindness, respect, and
consideration for other people. It is a shining light set against the darkness
of that era in Israel's history. It is akin to the way God "writes the story
of salvation on the dark background of sin".
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279.14 | Introduction | KAHALA::JOHNSON_L | Leslie Ann Johnson | Mon Oct 04 1993 18:34 | 72 |
| I've only got a few minutes, so will wait until a later time to start on
chapter 1 of Ruth. However, I've been eager to begin, so I'll just a
mention a few interesting things that I've found out.
One of things that I've heard about good writing is that it is better to
"show" rather "tell" in a story narrative. That is, to let the reader
draw their own conclusions, rather than spelling everything out for them.
One way to do this is to use dialogue, and this is exactly what the writer
of Ruth does. 50 of the 85 verses in Ruth are dialogue. More than that,
the writer employed a distinct manner of speaking for each of the main
characters, using idioms, colloquilism, and expressing the particular
characteristics of that person through the way they spoke. Unfortunately,
we have lost most, if not all, of this flavor through the translation to
English, and the passage of time between our culture and the culture in
which this story took place.
In Biblical times, the meaning of a person's name was very important. The
names of the people and places in Ruth add a great deal of depth and under-
standing to the narrative. For example, the name Naomi meant pleasant.
When she returns from Moab, bereft of husband, sons, and family fortunes,
Naomi tells the people of Bethlehem not to call her Naomi anymore, but to
call her Mara, which means bitter, instead. This a reflection of her
condition - destitute, and of how she feels about her relationship with God -
He has dealt bitterly with her, perhaps because of her family's lack of trust
in Him and their move to Moab, a land of idolatry (worshipped the god Chemosh)
and often a land at enmity with Israel. Naomi isn't left destitute though,
and her name continues to be "Pleasant". Anyhow, I'll talk a little bit more
about the meanings of the names in this book as we get to those points in the
story.
In our Bible study, we took turns leading the discussion on Ruth from the
perspective of various themes. The theme that I took was hope and despair
in Ruth. This will probably be the basis of what I write in here because,
having prepared that study, I have the most material from this perspective.
I will try and include other stuff that was brought up in our other "looks"
at Ruth as well. And PDM can fill in what I miss because he's part of the
same study group also.
I looked up hope and despair in the dictionary, and thought it would be
good to preface the study of Ruth with these definitions:
Hope:
1) desire accompanied by _expectation_ (expect = to look for)
2) the thing that one has a hope for, the reason for the hope
3) archaic: to trust or rely on
4) from the base "hop" - to leap up in expectation
What I noticed about this is that it seems to carry an excitement in a
positive way about the future.
Despair:
1) to be without hope; to loose or give up hope
What I noticed about this is that despair must be defined in terms of hope -
the absence of hope.
Two words which seem related to despair are:
Desolate: left alone, solitary, forlorn, wretched and
Desperate: driven to, or resulting from loss of hope; offering so little
chance for improvement as to cause despair, archaic: without hope
Although I've talked a lot more about despair in these opening two notes
(the time of the judges, and Naomi suggesting a name change for herself),
there really is a whole lot more hope in Ruth than there is despair. Ruth
is 4 chapters in length. The sadness is all in chapter 1, and even there,
there is no total despair, unless you consider Naomi's other daughter-in-law,
Orpah, returning to the futility of idolatry.
Well, gotta run. Actually should have left here 20 minutes ago. Oh well.
Leslie
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279.15 | Ruth 1:1-6 | KAHALA::JOHNSON_L | Leslie Ann Johnson | Wed Oct 06 1993 18:38 | 60 |
| I've been thinking about what might be the best way to go through Ruth in
these notes, and I've decided to sort of re-tell the story, skimming and
summarising some parts, and stopping to take a closer look at other parts.
This way the context of the story will be maintained without going through
it all verse by verse.
In the first couple of verses the background is laid. Naomi, her husband
Elimelech, and their two sons Mahlon and Kilion leave Bethlehem in Judah,
or Bethlehem Judah as it was also known, and travel to Moab because there
was a famine in the land around Bethlehem. There are a few things to note
here in these first verses.
The name Elimelech means "God is my king". The family is refered to as being
Ephrathites (1:2). Ephrath was an old name for Bethlehem, and probably
indicates that they were from an old, established and distinguished family -
sort of local aristocracy. Bethlehem means "house of bread" and Judah means
"praise".
Now the Moabites were a people who were descended from the incestuous
relationship of Lot with one his daughters. As mentioned earlier, these
people became idolators and worshipped a god named Chemosh. Great bitterness
developed between Israel and Moab.
God originally instructed the Hebrews _not_ to bother the people of Moab
when they came into the promised land because God had set aside their land
as an inheritance for Lot's descendents. But when Moab saw the Hebrews
coming into the promised land they were afraid of them. And since they felt
they could not defeat the Hebrews militarily, they sought to defeat them by
having a sorcerer named Balaam lay curses on them. Three times the king of
Moab asked the Balaam to curse the Hebrews, and three times, instead of curses,
blessings came out of his mouth because God intervened. This very interesting
(and strange to us) story can be found in Numbers 22 through 24.
When Moab found that they would not be able to defeat Hebrews through sorcery
and divination, they turned to seduction. They used their women to sexually
seduce the Isaelite men, and through this, to get them to turn away from God
and worship the pagan gods. Because of their unfaithfulness, the Isaelites
suffered a plague which killed many of them, and they also came against the
Moabites in battle and defeated them. God issued a prohibition against
marrying the people of Moab. In Psalm 108:9 we see that Moab is refered to
as God's wash basin. One commentary that I read said that this might be
paraphrased as God's garbage can.
So putting all this together back into the story of Ruth, we see that
this family who knew God as their king and who lived in the house of bread
and praise, instead of trusting God and supporting their community in this
time of famine, left it and went to stay in a garbage can full of idolatry.
Now they didn't just go for a visit, but they went to _live_ there (1:2).
A couple of things happened. Elimelich died, and Mahlon and Kilion both
married Moabite women. Then both of them die. It's interesting to note
that Mahlon means "weakling" and Kilion means "puny" so these guys probably
weren't very strong and healthy to begin with. Anyhow, they die, and Naomi
is left, an alien in foreign land with two daughter-in-laws from that land.
Pretty bleak.
But there comes a point of hope. Naomi hears that things are going well
in Bethlehem and there is food there. So she decides to return. And here
is where I will have to break off for today as I've got to get home.
Leslie
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279.16 | one of my favorite books in the Old Test | LEDS::FIESTER | | Fri Oct 08 1993 18:11 | 4 |
| Absolutely wonderful, Leslie! Consistent with studies I've
read on Ruth. I'm eagerly awaiting more entries!
-greta
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279.17 | | GYMAC::PNEAL | non-preferred shareholder | Mon Oct 11 1993 11:14 | 8 |
|
Well, I think you've all got wonderful imaginations. The story
is probably a lesson in some local law that was prevalent at the time.
Nothing more.
- Paul.
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279.18 | | JULIET::MORALES_NA | Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze | Mon Oct 11 1993 11:57 | 18 |
| -1
Paul,
Outside of this one statement, which is offensive. Your response is
fine.
> Well, I think you've all got wonderful imaginations.
>The story is probably a lesson in some local law that was prevalent at
>the time. Nothing more.
May I ask why you couldn't refrain to the topic at hand without the
personal attack? This statement would have been sufficient to keep the
discussion going without possibly "hurting someone's feelings."
Nancy
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279.19 | | ICTHUS::YUILLE | Thou God seest me | Mon Oct 11 1993 12:10 | 19 |
| � <<< Note 279.17 by GYMAC::PNEAL "non-preferred shareholder" >>>
� Well, I think you've all got wonderful imaginations.
Glad you enjoyed them! Reckon they rate inspiration ? ;-)
� The story is probably a lesson in some local law that was prevalent at the
� time.
I thought we pointed out exactly what 'local' laws were relevant....
� Nothing more.
Oh Paul! - No sexism any more? No patronising landowner's demands?...
At least we've answered your initial observations then! ;-)
Andrew
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279.20 | | JURAN::SILVA | Memories..... | Mon Oct 11 1993 12:16 | 8 |
|
Nancy, I've heard worse, and they were from some mods.......
Glen
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279.21 | | JULIET::MORALES_NA | Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze | Mon Oct 11 1993 12:33 | 5 |
| Glen,
So have I, but let's live in today,not yesterday.
Nancy
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279.22 | | GYMAC::PNEAL | non-preferred shareholder | Mon Oct 11 1993 12:55 | 26 |
|
Nancy, my reply was void of any personal attack on you or anybody
else in this conference. If you took offence, or anybody else for that
matter, at what you think I said then I apologise.
I won't patronise you by saying I think it's a nice story when I don't
and I won't lie to you either. I read the book of Ruth with an open
mind. I actually hoped that it would do something for me but it
didn't. The earth didn't move. My mind didn't light up with a vision
of God. I was hoping that somebody in here might show me something
that I missed.
I don't even think it's a story that has any relevance in todays'
society - if it was me that you thought was living in the past.
Notes is a difficult medium to discuss these things in any depth. I
can only try to communicate my thoughts to you through my words and
if they cause offence then I'm sorry.
- Paul.
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279.23 | | JULIET::MORALES_NA | Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze | Mon Oct 11 1993 17:52 | 10 |
| -1
Thanks Paul. No problem. can you see that when you start off a
sentence telling the person who has obviously spent an enormous amount
of time and care into a study of the Book of Ruth that she/he has a great
imagination.... well, it can be taken hurtfully.
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279.24 | | KAHALA::JOHNSON_L | Leslie Ann Johnson | Mon Oct 11 1993 17:57 | 16 |
| Paul,
I'll hope you'll stick around to read the rest of what our study on Ruth
helped me to see about it anyway. Even if you disagree with it.
I was out on vacation Friday, catching up at work today. I have another
entry about ready to be put in, but probably won't get it finished until
tomorrow.
Leslie
PS. I'm not writing this specifically for Paul, but because I was so im-
pressed with what the book of Ruth had to say about God, and about what
it means to be a redeemer. I see it as relating to Jesus. Although
I hope that it would be meaningful to Paul, if it is helpful to anyone
then I will be glad.
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279.25 | | POWDML::SMCCONNELL | Next year, in JERUSALEM! | Tue Oct 12 1993 12:42 | 13 |
| Hi Paul,
Speaking for myself, I'm not offended by what you said. I'm intrigued
by what you said, but not offended.
If Ruth is giving you trouble, or at a minimum, not "shaking the earth"
for you, are there other writings you'd like to pursue? Say Psalm 23
(a favorite!), Isaiah 53 (a favorite...oh - they're ALL favorites! ;-).
Stay tuned though - I think Leslie has done a great job sharing her
thoughts on the subject.
Steve
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279.26 | JMHO.... | JURAN::SILVA | Memories..... | Tue Oct 12 1993 12:45 | 14 |
| | <<< Note 279.21 by JULIET::MORALES_NA "Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze" >>>
| So have I, but let's live in today,not yesterday.
Isn't that the Christian way? Let's not worry about the past, let's
just deal with the now. But that's how the same mistakes happen over and
over again.....
Glen
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279.27 | | JULIET::MORALES_NA | Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze | Tue Oct 12 1993 13:06 | 34 |
| Glen,
There is merit to looking at past mistakes. But rubbing one's face in
them does not accomplish what you are asking.
Unfortunately I see the same dialogue debates come up with you OVER AND
OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER again...
SOMETHING is very wrong with the pattern of behavior, Glen. Is it
perhaps unforgiveness?
You know when I was married and my husband pointed a gun at me [he was
so drunk he could barely stand] and warned me that if I moved, he'd
shoot me [I had just gone to bed], I was hurt, angry, scared and
embittered. He HAD wronged me and the next MORNING he didn't remember
a thing about the incident and told everyone I was crazy and had made
it up. Everytime I wanted to express my hurt about that I'd bring up
the gun and use the situation as a "weapon" against him. I had not
forgiven him for this... even though he didn't ask.
Forgiveness from a Christian should come without the asking [I've learned
this, this part year]. It is unforgiveness that rubs others faces in
their mistakes all the time.
God also says that unforgiveness gives Satan the advantage over one's
life... that is the one that is unforgiving.
Glen, I forgive you for the hurt you have caused me and the offense of
your continual harassment of this Conference and its noters. I pray
that you will also learn to forgive us our shortcomings.
Nancy
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279.28 | | JURAN::SILVA | Memories..... | Tue Oct 12 1993 15:16 | 29 |
| | <<< Note 279.27 by JULIET::MORALES_NA "Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze" >>>
| There is merit to looking at past mistakes. But rubbing one's face in
| them does not accomplish what you are asking.
It would seem that by bringing them up is bad enough....
| Unfortunately I see the same dialogue debates come up with you OVER AND
| OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER again...
Many mistakes Nancy.... many mistakes.....
| SOMETHING is very wrong with the pattern of behavior, Glen. Is it
| perhaps unforgiveness?
I've forgiven everyone for all of the injustices that have occured....
| Forgiveness from a Christian should come without the asking [I've learned
| this, this part year]. It is unforgiveness that rubs others faces in
| their mistakes all the time.
One should not appear to be holier than thou and no one would bring up
their past mistakes. (btw, this isn't directed at anyone in particular)
Glen
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279.29 | | JULIET::MORALES_NA | Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze | Tue Oct 12 1993 17:18 | 3 |
| Moved chit-chat notes as requested into topic 14.
Nancy
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279.30 | Ruth 1:7-22, 2:1 | KAHALA::JOHNSON_L | Leslie Ann Johnson | Wed Oct 13 1993 16:08 | 100 |
| Naomi starts back to Bethlehem accompanied by her two daughter-in-laws,
Orpah and Ruth. At some point, probably a crossroads - one way continuing
to Bethlehem, and the other possibly leading back to the Orpah's and Ruth's
parental homes, Naomi stops and attempts to:
1) encourage these two young women to return to their parental homes
2) discourage them from continuing with her to Bethlehem.
Naomi begins this with a prayer for their future in Moab, but she directs
that prayer specifically to God (Yahweh) rather than using a general term
for god. She looks to God to to show them kindness, the word translated
"kindness" by the NIV is hesed; according to what I've read, carries with it
a sense of a covenantal steadfastness, faithfulness, and warmth. The word
that has been translated "rest" is not so much a cessation of labors, but
rather security and blessing.
1:8b-9 "May the Lord show kindness to you, as you have shown to your dead
and to me. May the Lord grant that each of you will find rest in the home
of another husband."
In that time, about the only "career" available to women in rural areas was
that of a wife. When her first entreaties fail, Naomi launches into arguments
for why the should not go to Bethlehem - basically because she thinks there
is no hope of a good future for them there.
All of them cry, and Orpah allows herself to be persuaded to go back, but
Ruth does not. Instead she responds with a beautiful statement of commitment
and faith that is many times used in wedding ceremonies today. This is in
Ruth 1:16-17.
"Where you go, I will go"
- Ruth is staying with Naomi out of commitment to her, not out of a desire
for personal gain.
"Where you stay, I will stay"
- Ruth is identifying herself with Naomi, and accepting the conditions
of Naomi's life, including poverty.
"Your people will be my people"
- Having identified herself with Naomi, Ruth now identifies herself with
God's people, she is forsaking idolators.
"and your God, my God"
- This is the explanation for the preceeding, Ruth identifies herself
with, and ties her future to Naomi and the Israelites, because she
believes and trusts in God.
"Where you die, I will die, and there I will be buried.
- Ruth is stating very strongly that her commitment is permanent in
nature, it is for the duration of her life. In one way, not even death
will be able to seperate Ruth from Naomi; though she will probably outlive
Naomi, Ruth will continue in the land of Israel and continue to identify
herself with God's people. Furthermore, Ruth may be expressing her faith
in the resurrection. The patriarchs such as Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and
the Hebrew people of first testament times expected that they would be
resurrected not to heaven, but to the land of Israel. So their desire
was to be buried in Israel to await the resurrection. (I hope to provide
you with more information on this later)
"May the Lord deal with me, be it ever so severely if anything but death
separates you and me."
- To show how serious she is about her commitment to Naomi, to God, and
to God's people, Ruth seals her promises with a type of oath. This same
"formula" is found elsewhere in the books Samuel and Kings.
Naomi sees that Ruth is determined and accepts her decision. This is
probably a good place to mention the meanings of the names Orpah and Ruth.
I found a couple of different meanings for both. Orpah means fawn or deer,
and also may mean stiff-necked. Orpah, though she shed tears, was not
fully committed to and trusting of God. She turned back to the pagan gods she
had known in her childhood. Ruth means friend or beautiful. She was a
true friend to Naomi.
When Naomi and Ruth reach Bethlehem, they cause quite a stir amongst the
inhabitants. The towns people ask, "Can this be Naomi ?". The fact that
her return causes a stir contributes to the idea that she came from a
prominent family as I mentioned in an earlier note. Their query probably
indicates that the years have altered her appearance greatly.
Naomi's reply in verses 20 & 21 indicates this even more so - the years have
changed her, and not for the better. "Don't call me Naomi" (pleasant), she
says, "Call me Mara (bitter), for I left with much, but the Lord has
brought me back empty. The Almighty has afflicted me and brought calamity
upon me." Naomi is very despairing here. She uses the term "Sadday",
translated Almighty, indicating God's strength and power - that He cannot be
resisted. God has set Himself against Naomi, and there is nothing she can
do about it.
But though it may look to Naomi as if God is against her, there are some
hopeful points to notice. First, Naomi has not been abandoned by God,
God has been with her, and has brought her back to Israel. Secondly, she
and Ruth have arrived at a good time - the beginning of the barley harvest
(which is in April). This gives them a hope for obtaining food because there
is provision for the poor in Israel tied to the harvests. More will be
included on this in my next note. Thirdly, we are informed in 2:1 that Naomi
has a relative or kinsman on her husband's side. This seemingly irrelevant
bit of information becomes one of the key factors in the story, and later
notes will focus on this is some detail.
Leslie
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Thank you Leslie!
I've read the book of Ruth exactly once, just after hearing
the passage you quoted in a renewal of wedding vows. Your
entries are very interesting! Now when you finish Ruth, you'll
only have 65 books to go !
;-)
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