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Conference wrksys::alphastation

Title:Alpha Workstation Conference
Notice:See note 1.* for conference notices
Moderator:WRKSYS::HOUSE
Created:Wed Sep 07 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1996
Total number of notes:9122

1977.0. "An 'escape-char' key on the LK-461 keyboard?" by STAR::COOK (Just say NO to that AccViO! - Java!!!) Mon May 19 1997 12:33

    
    How do I get my LK-461 keyboard to emit an 'Escape' character?
    
    (There's a key in the upper-left corner, with markings for 3
    different key-characters:  back-tick, tilde, and (ESC).  I can
    get it to emit back-tick and tilde, but not an Escape.)
    
    What's the secret?
    
    
    						Dave
    
    
    
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1977.1No Secret, ReallyXDELTA::HOFFMANSteve, OpenVMS EngineeringTue May 20 1997 15:0517
   There are several ways to generate an <esc> character, but this and
   other function keys depend on the host software or the host terminal
   for assistance.   (For your specific question, see the DECterm menu
   keyboard options settings around the behaviour of the tilde key, or
   the terminal setup menus, etc.)

   Note that <esc> alone is not a valid character in an ANSI environment;
   <esc> is always accompanying some number of additional characters.
   (There are any number of emacs users around that have discovered this,
   and that have implemented various workarounds.)

   In various situations, one can use <F11> or <CTRL/[> to generate an
   <esc> character.

   Also see HUMANE::KEYBOARD_DESIGN and BULOVA::DECWINDOWS, among other
   notes conferences.
1977.2Yup, EMACS was the application...STAR::COOKJust say NO to that AccViO! - Java!!!Wed May 21 1997 16:5531
    
    >>>Note that <esc> alone is not a valid character in an ANSI environment;
    >>><esc> is always accompanying some number of additional characters.
    
    	When you say it that way, it's now starting to make more sense
    as to why this particular key is a 'special case'.
    
   >>>(There are any number of emacs users around that have discovered this,
   >>>and that have implemented various workarounds.)
    
    	Bingo...EMACS was exactly the context in which I wanted the escape
    key to work...I was trying to telnet from VMS to a Unix box, and then
    use EMACS.

   >>>In various situations, one can use <F11> or <CTRL/[> to generate an
   >>><esc> character.
    
    	Yeah, someone else mentioned trying <F11>, but I had already
    tried that, and that didn't work in my 'VMS telneted to Unix then 
    invoking EMACS' scenario, either.
    
    	Maybe this is one of those cases where a mixture of too many
    conventions and standards in a mixed-OS-network just makes certain
    tasks more difficult than they otta be?!?!
    
    	Thanks for the info...I'll take a look in those other confs.
    
    
    						Dave
    
    
1977.3emacs users know how to solve this one...XDELTA::HOFFMANSteve, OpenVMS EngineeringWed May 21 1997 17:314
   It's probably best to start with the emacs conference then, as I know
   this has been discussed over there before...

1977.4Yes, thanks for the info...STAR::COOKJust say NO to that AccViO! - Java!!!Thu May 22 1997 17:496
    
    Yup, thanks Steve.  (That's twice in the last few weeks you've
    helped...thanks also for the VDE rebuild fixes.)
    
    
    					Dave