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Conference wrksys::alphastation

Title:Alpha Workstation Conference
Notice:See note 1.* for conference notices
Moderator:WRKSYS::HOUSE
Created:Wed Sep 07 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1996
Total number of notes:9122

1894.0. "AS255 w/3D10 and UNIX display settings?" by SWAM1::POIANI_MI () Fri Mar 14 1997 14:43

    I have a customer with Alphastation 255's with 3d10 ghraphic cards.
    This is my first look at a 3d10/Number 9 S3 card.
    
    They are running UNIX version 4.0a, and the display is defaulting to
    256 bit psudo color, does not look that great. They would like to
    switch display setting color/resolution.
    
    There are no jumpers or dials on the card as on the 3d30. How are the
    display changes made on DIgital UNIX on the card? Is this some X window
    setting or a card setting or console or what?
    
    All help appreciated.
    
    Mike P.
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1894.1STAR::KLEINSORGEFrederick KleinsorgeFri Mar 14 1997 17:354
    The S3 server DDX does not support any other pixel depth than 8.  The
    best you can do is change the resolution, and the refresh rate.
    
    
1894.2ChangesSWAM1::POIANI_MISat Mar 15 1997 13:353
    How do you change the resolutions and refresh rates?
    
    Mike P.
1894.3STAR::KLEINSORGEFrederick KleinsorgeMon Mar 17 1997 08:125
    
    I can't remember the sytax offhand, you do it in the command to
    start the X server on UNIX.  It should be in the documentation.
    
    
1894.4Colors?SWAM1::POIANI_MITue Mar 18 1997 13:368
    can further explain what you mean by the S3 DDX, is that the Xdriver
    for s3?  Is this the same for WindowsNT?
    
    Are you sure?
    
    1024*768= 786432 * 2 = 1572864 < 2MB.
                                  
    The documentation also talks about higher color support.
1894.5STAR::KLEINSORGEFred Kleinsorge, OpenVMS EngineeringTue Mar 18 1997 16:4118
    
    Graphics on X11 are supported by a combination of device driver, which
    handles init, and some other timing critical functions, and a Device
    Dependent X11 module that is a DLL called by the XServer to actually
    draw on the device.
    
    The S3 server DDX for Unix and VMS *does not have* the logic to use the
    S3 in any other pixel depth than 8 bits.  The hardware itself is
    capable of multiple pixel depths, including both 16 and 24 bits.  The
    Server drawing code does *not* support it.
    
    NT does not use X11.  They use a driver supplied by S3 which supports
    all (or most) of the pixel depths, resolutions, and refresh rates.
    
    If you have S3 documentation for Unix that states that it does pixel
    depths > 8.  I'd like to see it.
    
    
1894.6Ooops SWAM1::POIANI_MITue Mar 18 1997 21:266
    I should have said Powerstorm Marketing Brochure, and under NT I guess
    that is true. Thanks for the explanation.
    
    Documentation/Marketing Brochure same thing...:-)
    
    MP
1894.7STAR::KLEINSORGEFred Kleinsorge, OpenVMS EngineeringWed Mar 19 1997 09:5412
    
    BTW - the intent in supporting the S3, and other low-end commodity
    chips was to provide a cheap low-end offering for servers.  The
    workstation group chose to also include the S3 as the low-end of their
    Open3D offerings.  There was never a demand for pixel depths > 8,
    since that space is covered by the TGA & TGA2 based cards.
    
    BTW - my understanding is that the S3 offering on workstations (3D10)
    has been discontinued as the version of the chip went EOL.  The S3
    chip/card will continue to be sold on some server systems, who have
    gone to the replacement chip.
    
1894.8DECWIN::MCCARTNEYWed Mar 19 1997 10:328
RE: Support of depths > 8 on Digital UNIX

There is some work underway to determine the possibility of adding this for a
new version of Digital UNIX that is currently being developed.  If the project
pans out, the support is currently planned for S3, ATI and any new VGA cards
that may be supported.

Irene
1894.9Low End Graphics.. What's up doc.SWAM1::POIANI_MIThu Mar 20 1997 13:118
    My understanding that the workstation group is dropping support for the
    3D10. The 3D30 ($795) will be the lowest end graphic card available
    for a workstation (way too high). It didn't sould like they had any 
    other low end card in the works?
    
    I believe we need support in UNIX for a low end card with better color
    support.