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Conference wrksys::alphastation

Title:Alpha Workstation Conference
Notice:See note 1.* for conference notices
Moderator:WRKSYS::HOUSE
Created:Wed Sep 07 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1996
Total number of notes:9122

1811.0. "Console Dead after installing Open3D V3.5" by GIDDAY::KINGSMILL (Geoff Kingsmill, Australia) Thu Jan 23 1997 06:58

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1811.1console recovery procedureLEDDEV::DHATIThu Jan 23 1997 12:048
1811.2nogoYAKKA::KINGSMILLGeoff Kingsmill, AustraliaThu Jan 23 1997 23:419
Thanks for the pointer. I followed the instructions but unfortunately this made
no difference. After applying power I didn't see the flopppy access light flash
so it doesn't look like the system is getting this far in the power up
sequence. This doesn't sound like a hardware failure. What does the mini-console
jumper do? What else can we do to isolate this problem? 

Thanks,
Geoff..
1811.3failsafe loader modeLEDDEV::DHATIFri Jan 24 1997 11:5821
	Jumper j13 is the failsafe loader mode not mini console mode. 
	Make sure you have the jumper in the right place. It is the 
	3rd jumper starting from the front end.

	The way the powerup sequence works is the SROM does the initial
	powerup and then transfers control to the fw to complete the rest
	of the powerup.

	If the failsafe loader does not work , it means that either the 
	srom countdown has failed or the hardware is really broken.

	My guess would be the hardware could be broken. If you are determined 
	to isolate the problem, you can try debugging with the srom countdown.

	To see the srom sequence , you need a serial adapter that will fit into
	the srom port which is located next to the J11-J19 cluster. This port
	runs at 19200 baud. So set the terminal speed accordingly. 

	On powerup , you will see the sequence being displayed thru this port. 

- Sridhar.
1811.4getting there bit by bitYAKKA::KINGSMILLGeoff Kingsmill, AustraliaFri Jan 24 1997 20:0418
<	Jumper j13 is the failsafe loader mode not mini console mode. 
<	Make sure you have the jumper in the right place. It is the 
<	3rd jumper starting from the front end.

Yes I was using failsafe loader mode with j13 installed.

<	To see the srom sequence , you need a serial adapter that will fit into
<	the srom port which is located next to the J11-J19 cluster. This port
<	runs at 19200 baud. So set the terminal speed accordingly. 
<	On powerup , you will see the sequence being displayed thru this port. 

I do not have the serial adapter cable. I think I've found the right pin 
using an oscilloscope but when I connect a terminal at 19200 (8bit) it looks 
like I've got a baud rate problem. The output restarts when I press the reset
button. Can you give me the pintouts with a reference to pin 1? 

Thanks,
Geoff..
1811.5SROM 'dongle' part number and pinoutsWRKSYS::HOUSEKenny House, Workstations EngineeringSat Jan 25 1997 07:4720
    Here are some extracts from the Miata spec, I thing the SROM interface
    hardware is the same.
    
    -- Kenny House
    
    
     An SROM "dongle" (part number 96-RM001-01) can be used to interface an
     external serial line with the CPU's SROM interface.

    ...
    
     Table D-6:  Serial Diagnostic Port Connector Pinout

          signal   pin      pin    description       looking at MLB

          -         1        6     BSROMOE_L              -----
          ground    2        7     SROMOVRD           +--'     `--+
          +12V      3        8     Vdd              10| o o o o o |6
          ground    4        9     BSROMCLK          5| o o o o o |1
          ground    5       10     SROMCDAT           +-----------+
1811.6I think you need a dongleWRKSYS::SCHUMANNSat Jan 25 1997 17:064
I think the signals levels at the dongle are inverted from your normal
serial port. They are also ttl levels, not RS-232. The dongle has
the inverting RS-232 transceiver on it.

1811.7dongle on orderYAKKA::KINGSMILLGeoff Kingsmill, AustraliaMon Jan 27 1997 17:545
Thanks,
       I'll order the dongle cable and go from there.,

Geoff..