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Conference wrksys::alphastation

Title:Alpha Workstation Conference
Notice:See note 1.* for conference notices
Moderator:WRKSYS::HOUSE
Created:Wed Sep 07 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1996
Total number of notes:9122

1565.0. "How to clear the console password if not known" by CSC32::J_GAINES () Tue Sep 03 1996 00:50

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1565.1sorry for the misinformationWRKSYS::HOUSEKenny - PKO3-1/N75 - DTN 223-6720Tue Sep 03 1996 09:4031
1565.2WRKSYS::DONALDSo Long, And Thanks For All The FishTue Sep 03 1996 19:426
1565.3Jumper j32 did not reset the password on as400.CSC32::J_GAINESMon Sep 16 1996 00:4655
1565.4NVR and TOY part numbers for AvantiWRKSYS::HOUSEKenny - PKO3-1/N75 - DTN 223-6720Tue Sep 17 1996 07:5242
1565.5Thanks for the NVRAM part numbersCSC32::J_GAINESSun Oct 13 1996 19:2410
1565.6Update????VOLKL::COOLIDGEMon Mar 24 1997 15:166
    I have an AlphaServer 400 4/233 with a forgotten console password. Is
    the replacement of the TOY and NVR chips the only way to clear this
    password???
    
    thanks...
    george
1565.7I had the same problem...HYDRA::DONSBACHJeff Donsbach, Software Partner Engineering, DTN 297-6862Mon Mar 24 1997 15:386
    
    See the help I got in ALPHASTATION500 note 168.*. Not sure if the
    same procesure will work on an Avanti, but it might .....
    
    -Jeff D.
    
1565.9Can't find the batteryVOLKL::COOLIDGETue Mar 25 1997 09:0410
    Thanks for the help. Just one more thing though, I am having a bit
    of trouble locating the battery. I assume it has the general shape 
    of a small battery but I cannot see anything that looks like one
    anywhere in the box. The manual I got with the system is of no help
    as it doesn't mention a battery at all.
    
    Can you point me to the location of the battery??
    
    thanks...
    george
1565.10jumper to clear RTCWRKSYS::SCHUMANNTue Mar 25 1997 16:527
I think the AS400 has a "Infinity" motherboard. The schematics show a
J29 jumper on the MLB for clearing the realtime clock. I think this MAY
clear out the password. If that doesn't work, try removing E56 the NVRAM
module on the CPU daughtercard.

--RS

1565.11or order a replacement NVRAMWRKSYS::SCHUMANNTue Mar 25 1997 16:578
I re-read .0, and found that you tried some of the suggestions in .10
already... Try this: remove NVRAM, power up without NVRAM, then plug in NVRAM
(while live) and do something that writes NVRAM, e.g. set a password.

Don't tell anyone I recommended this. It's not usually a good idea to plug
stuff in while "live".

--RS
1565.12.8 deleted by authorWRKSYS::HOUSEKenny House, Workstations EngineeringTue Mar 25 1997 16:596
    Thanks, Reinhard, I figured out that I had posted the wrong information
    in reply .8, but hadn't gotten the right info yet.
    
    I've deleted my .8 reply.
    
    -- Kenny House
1565.13I'm confused!!VOLKL::COOLIDGEFri Apr 04 1997 09:3411
    Ok, I'm a bit confused! Does the AlphaServer 400 4/233 have a battery
    that can be removed to clear the console password (if so where is it 
    located) or is it necessary to replace the NVRAM and TOY clock chips?
    
    Are the part numbers listed in .4 for the AlphaStation the same for 
    the AlphaServer? I realize that there are subtle differences between
    the two but do not know if those differences apply to these parts.
    
    Any help would be appreciated and thanks in advance.
    
    george
1565.14yesWRKSYS::SCHUMANNFri Apr 04 1997 12:264
The part numbers in .4 are correct for both the 400 workstation and the
400 server.

--RS
1565.15got it..VOLKL::COOLIDGEFri Apr 04 1997 14:061
    thanks....
1565.16Confirmation please....VOLKL::COOLIDGEWed May 14 1997 10:099
    It seems that the part number listed in .4 for the NVRAM item may be
    incorrect. I ordered both 21-39125-02 and 21-29631-02 and was told that
    21-29631-02 was not a valid part number.
    
    So, where do I go for this item, or has the number been replaced by
    another? 
    
    Thanks for any help
    george
1565.17it's the right p/nWRKSYS::SCHUMANNWed May 14 1997 15:3037
21-29631-02 IS a valid part number. quoting from CIMS....

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Category                        MEMORY IC, SRAM, STATIC MEMORY                                                                                            
Manufacturer                    DIGITAL INTERNAL (SEE SUPP PART)                                                                                          
Mfgr Part No                    21-29631-02                                                                                                               
Revision                        A01                                                                                                                       
Description                     8KX8 NON-VOLATILE SRAM WITH LITHIUM BATTERY  150NS 28PIN DIP                                                              
Generic                                                                                                                                                   
Sub-Group                       KD31 - RAM,STATIC,RTC,BATTERY BACKED                                                                                      
Replacement Part Group                                                                                                                                    
Status                          A_                                                                                                                        
Mil/Comm Flag                   C                                                                                                                         
Reliability                                                                                                                                               
Slash No.                                                                                                                                                 
M38510 ID No.                                                                                                                                             
DESC/SMD                                                                                                                                                  
NSN                                                                                                                                                       
Part Type                       IP                                                                                                                        
Internal Status                 2.ACCEPTABLE                                                                                                              
Revision Date                   29-May-1996                                                                                                               
Record Creation Date            07-Apr-1992                                                                                                               
Internal Usage                  CPP - NON RESTRICTED                                                                                                      
DIGITAL Burdened Standard Cost  5.500000                         Dollars                                                                                  
Standard Cost Unit of Measure   EA                                                                                                                        
Option No.                                                                                                                                                
Regulatory Approval Required    NONE                                                                                                                      
INsert/ONsert Code              14 - 28 PIN DIP .600 CENTER SPACING                                                                                       
Compatible with Mfg Process?    YES                                                                                                                       
PNRF Approver or Qual CE        DAVE CHRISTIE                                                                                                             
CE Comment                                                                                                                                                
Package Code                    PDIP0286APN-  PLASTIC DUAL INLINE PKG;1.472X.532X.160'';.250''HT;.100'' PI;.600''ROWSPACING;19-00                         
Static Memory Type              ASYNCHRONOUS SRAM                                                                                                         
Memory Density                  64 K                             bits                                                                                     
Memory Depth                    8 K                              bits                                                                                     
Memory Width                    8                                bits                                                                                     
1565.18thanks...VOLKL::COOLIDGEWed May 14 1997 15:392