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Its closed again.

This time they are cutting the blacktop up.  Hmm that was a real good choice
to put down as a replacment for the tiles (some external contractor has to 
be hired to cut it).

bjm

Yeah...I liked the tiles much better.  But, I guess the tiles are expensive to
lay (relative to blacktop), and things needed attention at a time when we didn't
have much money....


				Webb

> closed - again - no mail - again

	It doesn't help that his boss is in another facility :-(

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.29> It doesn't help that his boss is in another facility :-(

I dunno...  

If you assume that any given individual's boss must be in the same facility as
his report, then you are implying that that all Digital employees must work in
the same facility.

If he's head-of-facilities for this site, it seems perfectly reasonable for his
boss to be somewhere else; otherwise, he wouldn't be the "head", here...  :-)



				Webb

> Title: Not a defense.
> .29> It doesn't help that his boss is in another facility :-(
> I dunno...  
> If you assume that any given individual's boss must be in the same facility ..

	Can I have some of what you've been smoking :-)

	But seriously, you missed my point :-(  My apologies to anyone
	else who didn't understand...

Since we weren't officially informed that it was opened, I don't see why
anybody expects us to be officially informed that it's closed again.

>>Since we weren't officially informed that it was opened, I don't see why
>>anybody expects us to be officially informed that it's closed again.

Ah, you were not one of the people that walked down to the "temporary" entrance
and saw the sign saying "ZK2 Bridge is Open".

bjm

>> Ah, you were not one of the people that walked down to the "temporary" entrance
>> and saw the sign saying "ZK2 Bridge is Open".

That sign was referring to the ACBL duplicate bridge tournament, in the Euclid
conference room, that was originally supposed to be for people with some point
standing, but at the last minute was changed to be open to all players.

						Brian

	FWIW, for those who don't know Brian W. well, he is joking of course
	(he just didn't use a :-))

> That sign was referring to the ACBL duplicate bridge tournament, in the Euclid
> conference room, that was originally supposed to be for people with some point
> standing, but at the last minute was changed to be open to all players.

Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 11:40:33 -0500
From: [email protected] (Dick Gumbel)
Subject: Update on the zk2 bridge cutting

I just spoke with the engineers about the concrete cutter working on the bridge
into ZK2. He said the cutting will continue thru the day today (Friday) and
may take even longer. For those of you not close to this little effort,
the noise is not pleasant.

The engineers discovered that the concrete bridge is cantilevered! That is, the
bridge is not attached to the ZK2 building. They discovered this when they
began cutting and found that there was far more steel reinforcement in the
concrete than they had expected. With more steel in place, the cutting takes
significantly longer.

	And Dick and I chatted offline.  First it's interesting that
	they are cutting through the supporting rebar, and 2nd, Dick
	also pointed out that it's interesting this project is being
	engineered w/out even knowing this information beforehand!

    Yeah, I would have thought the blueprints for this building would have
    been on file with the city/county/state/etc as well as a copy kept here
    in the building.  I have a hard time believing that the original
    blueprints didn't show the extra rebar and the contractor upgraded the
    bridge for "the fun of it".  Does anybody know the engineering firm
    who drew up the plans for repairing the bridge?  (Am I assuming too
    much to think that we had a real civil engineer draw up plans before
    we start cutting?)
    
    				-John
    
    P.S.  I had the vision in my head that when the cut the bridge
    apart from the building, that the building would collapse.
    
    

Somehow the cutting make me think the bridge is going away, instead of
just replacing black top.  Meaning significant downtime for the ZK2 entrance.

Why am I invisioning a rope bridge ala Disney and Swiss Family Robinson?

Charlie

> Somehow the cutting make me think the bridge is going away, instead of
> just replacing black top.

	The work they are doing is not to replace the black top, but an
	attempt to solve the water problems (ie. water coming into the
	building under the bridge).  As mentioned in an earlier reply,
	they were going to cut a channel for the water to flow through or
	something like that.

	However now that they know the contrete slab is canterlevered
	and not supported by the building itself, and from todays work,
	it appears they are cutting (well they've switched to a jackhammer,
	so it's not actually cutting like they were with their diamond
	tipped saw yesterday) all the way through the slab.

	Maybe they should just take down the whole bridge and bring in
	fill and backfill between the building .....

    At lunch, we asked one of the workmen what was going on.  He said they
    were cutting the bridge away from the building now and would return
    when the weather was warmer to finish the job.  We made some comment
    like "So, the bridge will be closed for a while?".  He said "Yep".
    Now, there may have been some miscommunication so I can't tell for
    sure, but you might have to get in pretty early for one of those
    legal parking spaces... :-)
    
    				-John

They were working on the weekend (Sat at least) on the bridge.

They were letting people in on the bridge this morning.  Looks like they cut it
in half so the water will drain and then put a temporary (plywood) top over the
cut.

	Too bad they didn't just replace the bridge with a nice
	wooden one..

							mike

The below was intended to reach all people in the ZKO site.  I know of at least
one person who, as of a day or so ago, did not recieve it.

Brian

From:	GRANIT::GRANIT::MRGATE::"SALES::A1::SITE"  5-FEB-1997 08:15:53.71
To:	@Distribution_List
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Subj:	ZKO2 Entrance Bridge                                                   1

From:	NAME: Site Services                  <SITE@A1@SALES@PKO>
To:     See Below

FROM: Jim DiRico, DTN 381-1009, Zeke::DiRico
      
     

  Subj: ZKO2 Entrance Bridge

  The Bridge is reopened as of today,  only 50 % of the work has been 
  completed due to weather,  we will schedule to complete the remainder
  of the work in the mid to late April timeframe. I would like to apologize 
  for all the inconvenience this project has caused.   I will do my best to 
  have better communications and a reasonable schedule for the remainder of 
  the work.  Again I apologize for the inconvenience and the poor 
  communication.   Please feel free to contact me with questions or concerns.
  

        
  Regards
 
  Jim 
 
  

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