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Conference warhed::astronomy

Title:The ASTRONOMY Conference
Notice:New Noters, please read Topic 1 first
Moderator:WARFUT::SUDDICK
Created:Mon Feb 17 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1345
Total number of notes:11892

581.0. "Black Holes (Collapsars)" by SPGBAS::KATZ () Fri Jan 20 1989 09:06

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581.1The "inventor" of quantum black holes...WLW::KIERI'm the NRA - Black Powder DivisionFri Jan 20 1989 12:538
581.2I this what you wantATLS15::TUCKER_DFri Jan 20 1989 16:156
581.3holes, strings....ANT::TRANDOLPHFri Jan 20 1989 17:155
581.4another vote for Hawking's bookPULSAR::WALLYWally Neilsen-SteinhardtMon Jan 23 1989 12:147
581.5yea but...P51D::EYREMarty EyreTue Jan 24 1989 16:4715
581.6falsePULSAR::WALLYWally Neilsen-SteinhardtWed Jan 25 1989 11:5718
581.7<When are you in a black hole ?WARDER::PUGHPPhil Pugh NUK RNTWed Jan 25 1989 13:0314
581.8I want the paperJRDHTC::MASEDAHiroshi Maseda ABS/JRD EWB(6F) 03(207)2602Thu Jan 26 1989 09:4619
581.9An attempt at explaining...WLW::KIERI&#039;m the NRA - Black Powder DivisionThu Jan 26 1989 10:0331
581.10"You left many loose...EDGES!" hee.SPGBAS::KATZThu Jan 26 1989 12:5720
581.11Chandrasekhar is an UPPER LimitSPGBAS::KATZThu Jan 26 1989 13:0719
581.12oopsSPGBAS::KATZThu Jan 26 1989 13:496
581.13Tricky stuffBEING::RABAHYdtn 381-1154Thu Jan 26 1989 16:1513
581.14Radii and fast evaporationHIBOB::SIMMONSTristram Shandy as an equestrianThu Jan 26 1989 19:5611
581.15String 'im upATLS15::TUCKER_DThu Jan 26 1989 20:556
581.16It's been a long, long LONG time...SPGBAS::KATZFri Jan 27 1989 10:1812
581.17My T-shirt gave the answersHIBOB::SIMMONSTristram Shandy as an equestrianFri Jan 27 1989 10:419
581.18spontaneous generationPULSAR::WALLYWally Neilsen-SteinhardtFri Jan 27 1989 13:2321
581.19Final demise of a black hole?BEING::RABAHYdtn 381-1154Fri Jan 27 1989 15:154
581.20evaporated, I believeSPGBAS::KATZFri Jan 27 1989 16:401
581.21Size vs. massBEING::RABAHYdtn 381-1154Mon Jan 30 1989 13:433
581.22The formula isHIBOB::SIMMONSTristram Shandy as an equestrianTue Jan 31 1989 11:3415
581.23Electron Sized Black HoleRAINBO::WASSERJohn A. WasserTue Jan 31 1989 13:1117
581.24Units wrong, answer OKHIBOB::SIMMONSTristram Shandy as an equestrianTue Jan 31 1989 15:356
581.25I believe...SPGBAS::KATZSupport Free Trade...Smuggle!Wed Feb 01 1989 12:3510
581.26Mass and size are related, moreHIBOB::SIMMONSTristram Shandy as an equestrianWed Feb 01 1989 13:4411
581.27correct but redundantPULSAR::WALLYWally Neilsen-SteinhardtThu Feb 02 1989 12:0017
581.28Density is infinite in a holeHIBOB::SIMMONSTristram Shandy as an equestrianThu Feb 02 1989 12:119
581.29 Information from several sources...LDYBUG::BROWNThe Crazy GreekThu Feb 23 1989 03:00217
581.30Re. 29 Very good pointsHIBOB::SIMMONSTristram Shandy as an equestrianThu Feb 23 1989 20:1334
581.31pure hecklingPULSAR::WALLYWally Neilsen-SteinhardtFri Feb 24 1989 11:579
581.32I don't feel heckled.HIBOB::SIMMONSTristram Shandy as an equestrianFri Feb 24 1989 13:3725
581.33 1/2 or 2??BEES::BROWNThe Crazy GreekMon Feb 27 1989 02:3875
581.34Yes, I blew the formula!HIBOB::SIMMONSTristram Shandy as an equestrianMon Feb 27 1989 12:1120
581.35Black holes = Normal matterVISA::ANDRADEThe sentinel (.)(.)Thu Mar 30 1989 11:5619
581.36some meta-sciencePULSAR::WALLYWally Neilsen-SteinhardtThu Mar 30 1989 13:2965
581.37Red shift or escape velocity, which?HIBOB::SIMMONSTristram Shandy as an equestrianThu Mar 30 1989 14:559
581.38Calculations ?VISA::ANDRADEThe sentinel (.)(.)Fri Mar 31 1989 12:5617
581.39more on neutron starsPULSAR::WALLYWally Neilsen-SteinhardtFri Mar 31 1989 13:1327
581.40and it's called...NSDC::RATCLIFFMon Apr 03 1989 10:504
581.41quick correctionPULSAR::WALLYWally Neilsen-SteinhardtMon Apr 03 1989 18:3938
581.42GRO will look for the Great AnnihilatorADVAX::KLAESAll the Universe, or nothing!Mon Apr 08 1991 12:03129
581.43Possible giant black hole in galaxy NGC 3115VERGA::KLAESSlaves to the Metal HordesThu Jul 09 1992 13:1967
581.44Possible black holes in active galaxiesVERGA::KLAESQuo vadimus?Sat Jul 17 1993 20:09148
581.45Kip Thorne's Black Holes and Time WarpsJVERNE::KLAESBe Here NowTue Apr 05 1994 17:54145
581.46Black hole at the center of galaxy M87MTWAIN::KLAESKeep Looking UpWed May 25 1994 20:16242
581.48could be correctAUSSIE::GARSONachtentachtig kacheltjesThu May 26 1994 13:547
581.49TRUCKS::GOREBar Sinister with Pedant RampantThu May 26 1994 14:505
581.50RE 581.46MTWAIN::KLAESKeep Looking UpThu May 26 1994 23:42168
581.51Then again...MTWAIN::KLAESKeep Looking UpMon Jun 27 1994 16:3333
581.52Possible black hole in Scorpius30254::KLAESNo Guts, No GalaxyTue Aug 23 1994 21:5580
581.53AUSSIE::GARSONachtentachtig kacheltjesTue Aug 30 1994 00:533
581.54HELPSIOG::TYNANThu Oct 13 1994 23:247
581.55We can hear you...REPAIR::RICKETTSWell fax meFri Oct 14 1994 09:3811
581.56AUSSIE::GARSONachtentachtig kacheltjesFri Oct 14 1994 13:017
581.57TRUCKS::GOREBar Sinister with Pedant RampantFri Oct 14 1994 15:4313
581.58don't forget general relativityCSSE::NEILSENWally Neilsen-SteinhardtFri Oct 14 1994 18:1118
581.59Matter is matterMAYDAY::ANDRADEThe sentinel (.)(.)Tue Oct 18 1994 15:3813
581.60CSSE::NEILSENWally Neilsen-SteinhardtTue Oct 18 1994 18:3434
581.61TRUCKS::GOREBar Sinister with Pedant RampantWed Oct 19 1994 12:5814
581.62gravity and conjectureCSSE::NEILSENWally Neilsen-SteinhardtWed Oct 19 1994 18:0323
581.63I agree!TRUCKS::GOREBar Sinister with Pedant RampantWed Oct 19 1994 18:3611
581.64Black Holes Really Are Black!CHEFS::GORE_IBar Sinister with Pedant RampantThu May 29 1997 16:5880
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Subj:	[ASTRO] Black Holes Really Are Black!

Black Holes Really Are Black!

Black holes get their name because -- at least according to the theory -- they
are so dense that no light can escape from them. However, there has so far
been no direct demonstration of the fundamental property that they have no
surface, and are thus genuinely black. Now research at Leicester University
done by Professor Andrew King, with co-workers Dr Ulrich Kolb and Dr Ewa
Szuszkiewicz, has shown for the first time that black holes really are
black! Professor King will talk about this conclusion on Wednesday 9th April
at the UK's National Astronomy Meeting at the University of Southampton.

There is strong indirect evidence that several binary star systems in our
Galaxy contain black holes closely orbiting a normal companion star. The
binary systems in question are unusual in that they emit huge amounts of
X-rays in sporadic outbursts. These outbursts last for months, but may take
as long as 50 years or more to recur. The outbursts are powered by the
gravitational energy released when huge masses of gas from the companion
star fall on to the star astronomers believe is a black hole. The gas is
being steadily torn off the companion star by the black hole's gravitational
pull. However it does not fall directly on to the black hole, but orbits it
in the form of a large flat disc of gas, rather like Saturn's rings. The
outbursts occur when this disc becomes unstable, and its gas suddenly falls
towards the black hole.

Gas can build up in the disc and cause periodic outbursts only if the disc
is normally fairly cool. Professor King's team has shown that, if there is a
hot star at the centre of the disc, it will keep the disc hot. Under these
circumstances, the instability never gets a chance to build up because
material can flow steadily in towards the central star. The system then
appears as a steady source of X- rays instead of having outbursts. There are
many systems like this known: the central star in them is not a black hole
but a neutron star. Neutron stars are almost as dense as black holes, but,
crucially, they are just extended enough to have a real stellar surface.
This surface is heated by the steady infall of gas from the disc, keeping
the disc hot and stable, which in turn maintains the steady inflow heating
the stellar surface in the first place.

Yet in every case where astronomers suspect for independent reasons that the
central star is not a neutron star but a black hole, the system has
outbursts rather than being steady. This must mean that the central star
cannot heat the disc, i.e. that this star has no hot surface.

The inevitable conclusion is that black holes really are black. And this
reasoning dispels any remaining doubt about whether the suspect black holes
are the real thing.

This work was performed in the Department of Physics and Astronomy at the
University of Leicester. The group is led by Professor Andrew King, with
co-workers Dr Ulrich Kolb and Dr Ewa Szuszkiewicz.

Contact

     Prof. Andrew King, Astronomy Group, University of Leicester, Leicester
     LE1 7RH
     Telephone 0116-252 2072; fax 0116-252 2070
     email: [email protected]



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581.65Astronomer Royal Puts The Case For Supermassive Black HolesCHEFS::GORE_IBar Sinister with Pedant RampantThu May 29 1997 16:5879
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Astronomer Royal Puts The Case For Supermassive Black Holes

When the Astronomer Royal, Professor Sir Martin Rees of Cambridge
University, launches the 1997 National Astronomy Meeting at the University
of Southampton as the first invited speaker on Tuesday morning (8th April),
he will share with his audience his personal conviction that supermassive
black holes do exist in the universe. He will explain how observations over
the last two years have transformed astronomers' understanding of these
fascinating objects.

'Though theorists have predicted for three decades that black holes should
exist, the evidence has, until recently, been substantial but not
overwhelming' Rees admits. But he goes on, 'The case has, however, greatly
strengthened in the last two years. The most convincing evidence pertains to
huge dark masses, millions (or even as much as a billion) times heavier than
the Sun, that lurk in the centres of most big galaxies. The mass at the
centre of our own Milky Way Galaxy amounts to two and a half million Suns.
These 'dark objects' are the outcome of catastrophic gravitational collapse
when the Universe was 10 to 20 percent of its present age, and the galaxies
themselves were young.'

'The formation of these central black holes, and its immediate aftermath,
was signalled by the violent events that we call 'quasars'. We can now
directly observe galaxies so remote we are looking back that far in cosmic
history, because of the great period of time it has taken the light to
travel to us. In so doing, we can study the population of quasars and black
holes in our Universe.'

'According to Einstein's general theory of relativity, the properties of
black holes depend only on their mass and their spin. The drastic
distortions of space and time close to a black hole, predicted by Einstein's
theory, are now being directly observed: such measurements offer the first
test of Einstein's theory under circumstances where the effects are truly
dramatic, rather than mere small deviations from Newton's theory, as in our
solar system. An even more interesting prospect is that we may sometime
observe two black holes in collision.'

Future prospects for learning more about supermassive black holes depend on
ever better optical and radio observations from the ground, as well as data
from x-ray telescopes in space.

Contact

     Professor Sir Martin Rees, Institute of Astronomy, University of
     Cambridge.
     Phone (0)1223 337520; fax (0)1223 337523;
     e-mail: [email protected]

Note

The 1997 National Astronomy Meeting runs from 9.00 a.m. on Tuesday 8th April
to 12.30 p.m. on Friday 11th April in the Physics Department of the
University of Southampton. Press room facilities are available and media
representatives are welcome to attend. Press Room phone nos. for the
duration of the meeting are (0)1703 593173 and (0)1703 593174.



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