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Title:Fishing Notes- Archived
Notice:See note 555.1 for a keyword directory of this conference
Moderator:DONMAC::MACINTYRE
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Sep 20 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1660
Total number of notes:20970

1529.0. "Ice Fishing Humor" by RUSSEL::DOTY (Russ Doty, CTC) Mon Jan 07 1991 21:31

I went ice fishing for the first time this weekend.  Frankly, it
was a fiasco -- I need help!

First of all, how do you hit those little holes?  I was able to
hit holes pretty well with a 7foot flippin' rod, loaded with 30#
line, using a 1oz weedless jig and motor oil 8" plastic crayfish, but
didn't get any bites.  Should I have been using a different
color?

I then tried using the ultra light spinning gear.  After backing
off to the usual 30'-50' distance, I had a heck of a time hitting
that little 8" hole in the ice.  I guess this means I need to
practice casting more?  Is it considered good technique to skip
the lure along the ice, the way you do casting under a dock or
low branches?  On the few occasions I was able to get the lure in
the water, I managed to hook some fish.  Unfortunately, the 4#
line kept breaking on the edge of the hole.  Should you keep the
rod tip high or low when playing the fish to avoid this problem?
Also, at what point in the fight should you approach the hole?  I
assumed that you should wait until the fish was pretty well
played out to do this, the way you do when fishing from a boat --
is this correct?

After getting frustrated with the ultralight, I tried to do some
structure fishing.  Using the usual approach, I drilled holes to
the right and left of the structure, as well as above it,
following the usual casting pattern.  Needless to say, it took a
lot of time to work a dozen pieces of structure -- I had no idea
ice fishing was so tiring!  It wasn't clear how to get a quiet
presentation when drilling the holes directly above the fish --
is there a special technique for this?

While trying to improve my presentation and follow the
recommendation of casting _beyond_ the structure and retrieving
past it, it occured to me that I should actually be _casting_ to
the structure.  I first attempted to do this by inserting the rod
tip into the water.  However, the 8" hole didn't allow effective
casting.  Then, I tried inserting the entire rod and reel, along
with my hand, through the ice, and casting directly to the
structure.

I was using a 5' boron casting rod with a Shimano reel, loaded
with 10# line.  I was not able to achieve any distance casting.
Should I have been using lighter or heavier tackle?  Do you
adjust the anti-backlash mechanism any differently for ice
fishing?  I thought about trying the trigger stick, for the extra
distance you get with two-arm casting, but couldn't get both
hands through the ice.

If this is the correct approach, how do you manage when the ice
gets very thick?

Also, is there some secret to keeping your hands warm?  My hand
quickly got numb, resulting in the loss of the rod and real.
Would neoprene or Gore-tex gloves help?  What do you do about the
reel?  Before I lost it, it was icing up every time I took it out
of the water.

As you can see, I'm having a lot of trouble with this ice
fishing!  Should I try fly fishing next time?  If so, what weight
line is best?  Floating or sinking line?  What sort of leader?
And, of course, what patterns and sizes work best?  Any
guidelines on how to match the hatch?
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1529.1yeah, yeah...the guy looked like ShredderJURAN::HAUERTue Jan 08 1991 06:5412
    
    
    	Russ, Russ,....obviously...you have gotten tips from TEAM
    	STUPID....did a person who has a junk yard full of metal in his
    	mouth give you some pointers..:-)  That was your BIG mistake.
    
    	Another part of your problem is obvious too....ALWAYS go with the
    	10" holes.......much easier to hit....:-)
    
    	Gitzit'...and_it's_been_so_long_since_fishing_I_thought_Russ_was_
    		  serious!
    
1529.2WAHOO::LEVESQUENo artificial sweetenersTue Jan 08 1991 07:555
 Russ-

 Try trolling.

 The Doctah
1529.3JUPITR::NEALTue Jan 08 1991 08:053
    re .2

    You need a snowmobile for that. 
1529.4fish away!!!VLNVAX::OLEKSIAKTue Jan 08 1991 08:4010
	No,No, you got it all wrong!!! What you gotta do is;

	1) Get a little leave_it_to_beaver chain saw.
	2) Cut out a rectangle, say about 4 feet wide and about 25
	   feet long.
	3) Push the ice under the ice your standing on and go back 
	   to shore and cast your ass off.

						Johnny_catfish
1529.5I'm a lumberjack and I'm O.K.WFOV12::WHITTEMORE_JOut for TroutTue Jan 08 1991 09:3878

>   First of all, how do you hit those little holes?  I was able to
>   hit holes pretty well with a 7foot flippin' rod, loaded with 30#

	I find the best solution to the problems associated with ice
	fishing through those little holes (be they 8" or 10") is to
	swap your auger for an 16" Poulin chain saw and cut out casting
	lanes. I usualy go for a looooong triangle 42' on a side and
	10' to 20' at the base. Casting from the 'tip' to the base seems
	to give much better results than the opposite approach. For
	groups I use the same dimensions (approx.) applied to a rec-
	tangle.

>   the water, I managed to hook some fish.  Unfortunately, the 4#
>   line kept breaking on the edge of the hole.  Should you keep the

	Again - casting lanes are the answer.


>   Also, is there some secret to keeping your hands warm?  My hand
>   quickly got numb, resulting in the loss of the rod and real.
>   Would neoprene or Gore-tex gloves help?  What do you do about the
>   reel?  Before I lost it, it was icing up every time I took it out
>   of the water.

	The solution to these two problems came to me with the application
	of 'tilt fishing' (tip-ups) technology to casting lane tecniques.
	I realized that tip-ups have all their mechanical parts that are
	exposed to water suspended sub-surface except for the short (and
	infrequent) times they are extracted to land a fish. Given this
	it seemed only reasonable to submerge my spinning tackle at all
	times except for casting and (rarely) landing fish. I cast from
	a standing/kneeling posture and as soon as the lure/bait hits
	the water lie prone with my rod, reel, and arms (to the elbow)
	under water. This will keep your equipment and your hands above
	freezing (32�f). A caution here is to be sure that, on slow days
	and/or slow (producing) waters be sure to fish with a buddy or
	signefigent(sp) other so there's someone on hand to chip/saw you
	loose in the event that the lane you're fishing freezes over
	befor you have a chance to extract yourself and/or your tackle.

>   And, of course, what patterns and sizes work best?  Any
>   guidelines on how to match the hatch?

	I find a good replica of the prevelent naturals can be made following
	this paturn;

		take one dozen #10 nymph hooks and insert a tooth-pick
		through the eye of eack.

		fill a refregerator ice cube tray with pond water NOT
		TAP WATER - 'seasoned' bait bucket water may be used
		in a pinch.

		suspend one hook per cube and place in the freezer for
		24 to 48 hours.

		a couple of variations on this paturn are to use lead
		windings on the hooks to 'get down' to the lunkers
		and
		addind a couple of drops of food coloring (red or green)
		to the pond water prior to freezing

	One caution to those choosing to use this paturn is to wait an
	excessive length of time befor setting the hook. I've found that
	larger game fish will strike a properly presenter 'Pond Water
	Cubie' and hold (or 'mouth') it for up to seven minutes which is
	almost enough time for the fishes body temperature to melt enough
	of the 'Cubie' to expose the hook-point.


		Hope this helps ........... it works for me!

                          Joe Whittemore - from where the Westfield
                                                meets the Westfield
                                                   by the Westfield
                                                    in Huntington (MA)
1529.6TROLLING VIA SKIDOO - $.50/MILE. LAKE CHARGOGG.SHRFAC::MASSICOTTEWed Jan 09 1991 11:484
    
    Book of reservations filling up fast, getchya date'n time in now.
    Most of the midnight to 3am are taken.
    
1529.7Instructions what page?MCIS2::MCCARTHYWed Jan 09 1991 13:045
    Why in reading this note and replys, do I get the feeling that
    Team Lizzard (The creepy crawlers) have been giving Instructions
    on the fine Art of Ice-Fishing again. You've outdone yourselves
    this time, Team Lizzard.
    The Warden
1529.8Bassers have answerODIXIE::MEEKSWed Jan 16 1991 17:585
    I don't know much about that ice fishing either. But, I'd suggest a
    change in technique to hit that hole...
    
      Try Flippin......
    
1529.9the story of StoshGLASS::DEVINETue Feb 26 1991 14:2514
    seems stosh was out ice fishing one day and just after he
    drilled his first hole he heard a voice from above
    
    	"THERE ARE NO FISH UNDER THAT HOLE"
    
    stosh look around, didn't see anyone so he moved off a few
    yards and proceeded to drill another hole..when the voice re-appeared..
    
    	"THERE ARE NO FISH UNDER THAT HOLE"
    
    stosh, quite startled by this , shouted out  "WHO IS THAT ?"
    
    	"the stadium anouncer..."