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Title:Fishing Notes- Archived
Notice:See note 555.1 for a keyword directory of this conference
Moderator:DONMAC::MACINTYRE
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Sep 20 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1660
Total number of notes:20970

1447.0. "CLEAN POND FOR SMALLMOUTH" by XCUSME::WATERS (The Legend of the Lakes) Mon Jul 02 1990 15:19

    I am off this coming Friday and would like to hit a nice clean
    pond where I can fish for smallmouth and swim.  I am willing to
    travel 30-40 mile out of Merrimack.  Any suggestions?
    
    Is there another place out towards Jaffery?  As I mentioned in
    another note...Thorndike is a nice pond, but the fishing isn't
    that good.
    
    Remember...I want to swim also!
    
    						Thanks,
    
    						Legend 
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1447.1An oxymoron?ABACUS::TOMASJoeMon Jul 02 1990 17:0212
re: 0

"I...would like to hit a nice clean pond where I can fish..."
    						Legend 


Now THAT'S a total contradiction!   There's no place that's CLEAN once the 
Legend has been there!  And you CAN'T FISH...so why bother?

-HSJ-

1447.2OH NO...HOLESHOT IS BACK!XCUSME::WATERSThe Legend of the LakesTue Jul 03 1990 09:335
    IT'S BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  AND I THINK I'M ABOUT TO GET A MOUTHFUL!!
    
    Thanks, PAPA SMURF!
    
    Legend
1447.3Try thisSALEM::EASTERTue Jul 03 1990 15:186
    Hey Legend, try the Atlantic ocean, we all  know that the sharks
    won't attack you. Professional courtesy, you know. And you can catch
    fish too.
    
    
    John.
1447.4YOU WERE ALL SOOOO HELPFUL!XCUSME::WATERSThe Legend of the LakesTue Jul 03 1990 15:4614
    Thanks for ALL the imputs!  
    
    You guys really know your ponds?!!!
    
    Notice the TWO CLOWNS that responded?!  
    
    Spray paint the two of them....and BINGO!  
    
    INSTANT >>>>  PAPA AND MAMA SMURF!!
    
    I'm out of here....I'll find my own place!!!
    
    
    							Legend of the Lakes
1447.5water riseCRONIC::NERKERThu Jul 05 1990 14:186
    Another thing Legend, you should call the Corp of engineers in NH
    for a list of ponds that might be able to take the several feet of
    water rise to the shore line....NH folks dont need any more money
    spent on repairs to dams etc...
    
                                      Blue King
1447.6Legends have basis in fact. He tries to fish!BAGELS::DILSWORTHI'm the NRAFri Jul 06 1990 12:368
    Gee Legand,
    
    Wish I had responded in time for you GREAT fishing trip.  I have just
    the place for you.
    
    Massabesic!!   Great fishing and real clean water.  
    
    keith
1447.7Great lake, just have to know how!SALEM::EASTERMon Jul 09 1990 10:028
    Dito on .6. Hey legend try this place, it's great. Launch at Deer
    Neck bridge and go due west to the other side. Great fishing and
    no pressure from other fishing folks.
    
    P.S. Just let me know when your going, OK.
    
    
    John.
1447.8Who makes these rules, anyway?SMURF::LAMBERTSmile for the Camera!Mon Jul 09 1990 14:5210
   re: last two

   There's no swimming at Massabesic (sp?) though, as it's Manchester's
   reservoir.  Oh sure, you can take your oil-, gas-, and bilge-leaking power 
   boat in there, just don't get your feet wet.  :-(

   I've fished from the banks there and have had good luck with small stuff.
   Will probably try it in a canoe later this year.

   -- Sam (a Manchester dweller)
1447.9XCUSME::WATERSThe Legend of the LakesMon Jul 09 1990 15:0923
    That's why I won't fish Massabesic!  I also don't like fishing it from
    a canoe.  I fished it one day and by the time I got down in the back 
    of the "FANG" my trollmotor died and the wind picked up.  Of course
    the wind was against me all the way back.  My son was 5 at the time.
    He still talks about that day!
    
    						Legend
    
    Keith Dilsworth, where else do you go over in Ringe?  Have you fished
    Gilmore?  Is that water good for swimming too?
    
    There is a great looking place out on 119 heading into New Hampshire. 
    I asked a fella if it was Mass or NH...he said, Mass...and I had to be 
    a member of the club to fish it!  I just pointed to my hat and said,
    
    "I'M THE LEGEND OF THE LAKES...AND I FISH WHERE I PLEASE" 
    
    He shrugged his shoulders...and didn't seem impressed!
    
    Anyone belong to this club?  It is on the left...just before you hit
    the border.
    
     
1447.10BAGELS::DILSWORTHI'm the NRAMon Jul 09 1990 17:3312
    re .8
    
    Sam,  not only is it illegal, its a $150 fine.  But I am sure that that
    doesn't apply to the Legend.  He fishes and swims where he pleases.
    
    re .9
    
    Sorry Legend,  Grassy, Skatutaki and Hubbard are the only ones I fish in
    the area.
    
    
    keith
1447.11XCUSME::WATERSThe Legend of the LakesMon Jul 09 1990 17:389
    Don Mac just called, BEGGING, me to take him over to Grassy Pond,
    Wednesday night.  We'll be over there so if anyone else out there
    would like to meet us there, come on over.  Great fishing..and you 
    get to meet the LEGEND...and see him in action!  
    
    P.S. Bring your own boat!
    
    
    						John
1447.12tis trueRANGER::MACINTYRETerminal AnglerMon Jul 09 1990 18:0814
    
>>    Don Mac just called, BEGGING, me to take him over to Grassy Pond,
   
    Since folks will see that line and just assume the Legend is day 
    dreaming once again, I figured I'd step in here for a sec... 
    
    Yes, folks, tis true, the Legend and I will be fishing Grassy Pond
    Weds night.  However that wasn't *quite* how the conversation went.
    Need I say anymore?
    
    DonMac
    
    
       
1447.13Swallow Hill-Fitchburg Sportsmen ClubKNGBUD::B_SIARTYouteachbestwhatyoumostneedtolearn.Mon Jul 09 1990 18:2815
    
    	Reply .9
    
    
    
    		Legend,
                        I belong to that club, if your referring to 
    	Swallow Hill in Ashburnham Ma on 119. It is a MEMBERS ONLY,
    	club. Police do take notice of trespassers, (non-members)
    	because of some problems in the past. So if you go, just don't
    	get caught. BTW its the Fitchburg Sportsmen Club.
    
    
    		b
    		
1447.14XCUSME::WATERSThe Legend of the LakesTue Jul 10 1990 09:449
    B_SIART, I was just Busting them!  I wouldn't fish it unless I was with
    a member from the club...(heres your chance to fish with the Legend).
    
    How is the fishing there?  Any big ones come out of there?
    
    
    						Legend
    
    (who plays by the rules....Don Mac)
1447.15Grassy Pond (With One Disclaimer)ASABET::VARLEYTue Jul 10 1990 11:127
     The Lavender man and I fished Grassy Pond a year ago (after a cold
    front, I think, although the day was warm) and got zippo. It looks good
    though, and we're thinkin' about goin' again. Anybody got any advice
    (other than fishing it with the legend ?). I'm guessing "Rats" and
    Bubblegum worms and Buzzbaits might work, but these are just guesses...
    
    --The Skoal Bandit
1447.16KNGBUD::B_SIARTYouteachbestwhatyoumostneedtolearn.Tue Jul 10 1990 11:3315
    
    
    	Legend,
    
    		I know that you were joking, just wanted to let everyone
    	else know that in case they decided to fish in the area. Hey, I
    	caught me some nice smallmouth there last weekend, in the 2-3 pound 
    	range. If you ever see someone with a grey escort or grey mercedes,
    	its probably me. The area yeilds some nice pickerel, perch,
    	bluegill and others. The small pond near the club house is stocked
    	with brown and brook trout in the 12-18 inch range. The best I've 
    	done so far was a 13.5 inch brook. I'm usually there evey weekend.
    
    
    	brian
1447.17USE YOUR RUBBER!XCUSME::WATERSThe Legend of the LakesTue Jul 10 1990 11:3419
    
    Even though you didn't spell the Legend correctly...AGAIN!
    I will be a bigger person and give you some info.
    
    I stopped into the small tackle store right at the site on Friday.
    The fella in there was saying PURPLE with a Pink fire tail was working
    real well a couple of nights ago.  He said the color that usually does
    real well is MOTOR OIL.  He has never caught a bass out of there on
    anything but rubber.  I am not a big worm fisherman...so I need to
    give the worm more time on GRASSY POND.
    
    Why don't you and Lavender come over tomorrow night!  I'll carve a
    capital "L" in your forehead...backwards!  That way there..everytime
    you look in the mirror...you'll see the CORRECT way to spell LEGEND!
    
    
    						John
    
    Stay tuned for more..."LEGEND TIPS"
1447.18WHAT!! Don't know about wormin????SALEM::EASTERTue Jul 10 1990 14:4911
    Hey lead-gen, from all the hype you've been putting out in the NH
    tournament note I got the idea that you were the master of all types
    of baits. A proverbial MASTER BAITER if you please. I'am sure you
    could get some leasons from the likes of Don Mac, HSJ, Lavender
    Jack, Gitzit, The Skoal Bandit, The Doctah, TBDW, Ranger Bob, Don
    Bourgault, Spinnerbait Dilsworth, or Bass-O-Matic and a few I didn't
    name. I will even give you some tips on wormin, but it will co$t
    you.
    
    
    John.
1447.19I HAVE a fire-tail...ASABET::VARLEYTue Jul 10 1990 15:0310
     Thanks, Legend ! I guess it's true that a man never stands so tall as
    when he stoops to help a demented Bandit. Come to think of it, we
    stopped at the same Tackle shop, and the guy told us the same stuff.
    Could still be good, though. To me, the place is too shallow for
    weighted worms, but - ya never know. There's so much cover that a
    Spinnerbait would probably let you cover the largest area the quickest,
    but "who knows, the night is young and my cell, she is Oh so small..."
    (courtesy of Dom Irrera, one of the sickest guys on HBO).
    
    --The Skoal Bandit
1447.20XCUSME::WATERSThe Legend of the LakesTue Jul 10 1990 16:5425
    .19....No problem Bandit!  Anything for you!
    
    .18  ..Oh look...the EASTER BUNNY crawled out of his HOLE again!
         anyone got a carrot for this babbling MORON!  My fishing BUDDY,
         the BANDIT sums it all up....you can cover a lot of turf chuck'in
         a spinnerbait...than you can a worm!
    
         I'm not a big fan of the worm because of the time needed to work
         it.  The Legend likes getting into a lot of fish...QUICK!  
    
         Maybe if I was cover with HAIR like you...I could find the
         patience to fish the worm correctly.  What do you do while 
         bumping the worm up and down...PICK THE LICE FROM YOUR BEARD?!
    
         There....now that we SHUT THE WABBIT up again...we can get back
         to.."Legend TIPS"
    
         I used a black 8"worm with a red fire tail...and got a ton of
         SHORT bites....I suggest a black or purple 6"...should do the
         trick!  the Legend has a bag of MOTOR COLORED WORMS with a pink
         firetail...from what information I've gathered....Tomorrow night
         the BASS in grassy pond....Are going to think they died and went
         to HEAVEN!  
    
         "GET THE NET....DON!!!!"
1447.21The worm is one of my favoritesVICKI::DODIERFood for thought makes me hungryWed Jul 11 1990 09:4330
    re:19
    
    	If the place is to shallow for weighted worms, don't use a weight.
    
    	I do over 50% of my bass fishing with worms and almost always use
    them without a weight. I use 6 lb. test which will cast a 6" worm with no
    added weight.
    
    	There are probably more ways to fish a worm as there are to rig them. 
    The two ways I've had most success with are to just cast a weightless worm 
    as close to the shoreline as possible and let it sink. I may twitch it once 
    or twice as it's sinking and after it's been on the bottom but usually, if 
    I don't get a pickup by the time the worm hits the bottom, I'm not going 
    to get one. The other way is to use it like a top water lure and drag it 
    over lily pads. I usually let it sink after I drag it off the edge of the 
    pads and see if I get a pickup.
    
    	I have had some luck using curly tail worms with a slow retrieve
    but most of the time I get kibby, perch, and pickeral hits, especially
    on the firetail worms. You can usually tell when you get these as
    either the tail will be gone or the worm will be cut in half. For the 
    most part I stick with solid color flat tail worms. Black or purple are 
    still my first choices but I have had luck with other colors such as blue, 
    green, motor oil, and natural color. I haven't tried the bubble gum color 
    yet.
    
    	Another rubber bait I've had some good luck with is a 6" green Snatrix 
    (water snake) but I can't find them anymore. 
    
    	Hope this helps......RAYJ
1447.22I AgreeASABET::VARLEYWed Jul 11 1990 11:4611
     Ray, I've tried both of your methods, and they do work. LJH and I have
    been using the worm hooks with the tiny screw type springs attached to
    the eye which you run through the worm. Then you stretch the worm
    straight back and bury the hook point to make it weedless. We have our
    best luck with the 4" "Western (Kalin) Worms" or the black/grape 4"
    "Producto" segmented worms.
    
     BTW, don't miss the bubblegum floaters ! Hagerty broke my chops with
    'em the first time he used 'em...
    
    --The Skoal Bandit (Who uses 6lb on his "All Star" all the time).
1447.23Gregg LakeROBOAT::HEBERTCaptain BlighWed Jul 11 1990 14:4514
Back to the question...

Try Gregg Lake in Antrim. Take 101 West, then 202 North out of Peterboro;
no turns, just keep going straight. You might pick up 31(?) in Antrim.
Just outside the Antrim village there's a sign on a pole on the left hand
side of the road for "GREGG LAKE".

You launch just past the beach; room for parking maybe 6 vehicles. Swim
near the road, catch smallmouth at the opposite end of the lake. Max
depth is around 41 feet.

I caught a few there last Saturday B^).

Art
1447.24Oh No!!Not MassabesicWJOUSM::BOURGAULTMon Jul 16 1990 10:226
    Answer to .6
     
    Keith I know you hate Massabesic! but this is the highest level of
    pollution that you are trying to impose on this beautiful fishery.
    This could have the impact of the Exxon Valdez if the LEGEND should
    slime the water. 
1447.25XCUSME::WATERSThe Legend of the LakesMon Jul 16 1990 12:4415
    Don, your back!  Nice to hear from you!
    
    Sorry, the Legend has already fished Massabesic.  I won my first
    tourney.  Yep...the Legend caught his limit!
    
    I'm UNBELIEVABLE!!
    
    God...am I good!
    
    Legend
    
    I noticed Don isn't mentioning all the fish he caught when he was on
    vacation!
    
    John