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Title:Fishing Notes- Archived
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Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Sep 20 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1660
Total number of notes:20970

1446.0. "Help with Hook Removal" by LEDS::DCAMPBELL () Tue Jun 26 1990 16:40

    
    
        I do most of my fishing with rubber worms and weedless hooks and
        have been having a problem with the fish swallowing the worm and
        the hook getting caught in the white part of the throat. 
    
    	Is it possible to slice the white part or is it better to cut the
        line and leave the hook. I tried cutting the barbs off but when
        the hook is deep there isn't a lot of room to twist and turn the
        hook even without barbs.
    
    	Also how long can a bass stay out of the water before it becomes
        fatal. I had one bass out of the water only a couple of minutes
        and it seemed to take him a long time to recover once I put him
        back.
    
                                         Thanks in Advance
                                       Dave (SOUPY) Campbell
                                       
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1446.111SRUS::LUCIAAnxiously awaiting the choppers...Tue Jun 26 1990 17:1322
Here is my opinion, which has been formed from experience (ask the LEGEND, he'll
tell you) and from experiences of others, including pros on TV shows and many
books.

1) Keep the fish out of the water for the absolute least amount of time 
   possible.  When you release the fish, put it back into the water GENTLY.
   Don't drop it from 5 feet.  If the fish appears stunned, hold onto it
   by the lip (if a bass) until it tries to swim away on its own.  If it's
   stunned, then it may sink and get silt in its gills.  This is particularly
   important in a river, where the weakend fish must overcome the current.

2) If you can't get the hook out, cut the line!  I've caught many fish that 
   have been gut hooked with no apparent side effects.  I've never caught a
   fish that had been killed by leaving a hook in it :-)  Barbless hooks are
   a trade-off.  You loose more fish, but over time probaly do less damage.
   I keep the barbs on for bass but remove them for trout.  Try to use bronze
   hooks (versus stainless steel) as they will corrode from the water and
   stomache acid of the fish and will therefore be removed from the fish 
   quicker than a stainless hook.


Tim
1446.2Hooks are Replaceable and CheapWJOUSM::BOURGAULTWed Jun 27 1990 09:4915
    I agree with the handling methods of .1 and have seen fish die from the
    effort of trying to remove a hook in the gullet area. This area is very
    soft and pulling and twisting a hook is doing internal damage and over-
    stressing the fish. You also tend to have the fish out of the water
    for a long period of time. What I have is a pair of metal snips that
    I insert in the fishes mouth and cut the hook as far down as possible 
    this allows less restriction in the mouth of the fish and also adds to 
    the possibility that he can manuever the hook out more easily over
    time. If the hook is exposed by the gills I will cut off the barb 
    and the rest of the hook slides right out. This is a real sore spot
    for me since I have a partner who I refer to as Dr. Death since he
    always thinks he can get the hook out in that area. My expierence
    has been that smallmouths tend to die a lot easier from this procedure.
    It's a lot quicker to cut the line and retie your line than to
    jeopardize the fishes life for a hook. 
1446.3commentSAHQ::BREWERSun Jul 01 1990 23:536
    Sounds like you might be letting the fish run with the worm too long
    before setting the hook. I usually just take up the slack and pop him
    real quick. Haven't had that particular problem, although if I did, I
    would just cut the line. 
    
    Bobby