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Title:Fishing Notes- Archived
Notice:See note 555.1 for a keyword directory of this conference
Moderator:DONMAC::MACINTYRE
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Sep 20 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1660
Total number of notes:20970

1408.0. "Gulf Deep Sea Fishing - need info" by UTROP1::KNECHT_J () Fri May 11 1990 11:11

    Hello all you fishermen and women
    
    I am writing this note from the Netherlands and I hope anybody can
    help me on this subject.
    In about three months I am going to the States with two American
    friends of mine to go deep sea fishing in the gulf of Mexico.
    
    I was wondering whether anybody can give me some advise on a couple
    of things like.
    where to go (Florida,or...) and which city.
    What kind of fish to go after in what way.
    What are necessary things to bring with you.
    Is the Gulf a must.
    other notes 
    etc...
    I am also interested in experiences that people had.
    
    Hope to hear from some excitement loving DECCIE's
    
    Regards,                
    Johan.
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1408.1Try the Florida KeysMPGS::CHIASSONFri May 11 1990 12:5711
    do you want to only deep sea fishing or do want to fish for the famous
    tarpon and bonefish on the flats with a guide
    
    what kind of expectations are you expecting and maybe a location 
    in Florida you are expecting to be 
    
    My personal choice and experience is to fish the Florida Keys
    then you can fish the Atlantic or the Gulf of Mexico what ever
    will suit your fancy
    
    ED
1408.2Keys PleaseSWAM3::SUKOVICH_ROFri May 11 1990 15:022
    I  too would recommend the Florida Keys. I would prefer to fish the
    Atlantic side (read Gulf Stream). Have fun.
1408.3More keys infoWAV13::GREENBERGFri May 11 1990 17:1440
    I don't have much experience in the Gulf, but I have fished in the
    Florida Keys and I would recommend:
    
    	Key West
    	Islamorada
    
    If you are driving, Islamorada is closer (about 2 hours from Miami).
    Key West is probably 3+ hours.
    
    There are three ways to fish in the Keys:
    
    	Charter Boat -- Expensive. About $500 per day. They supply all the
    			gear, but you probably will catch fish.
    	Party Boat -- 	A lot less money. About $20 for a half day. They 
    			take about 30 passengers and usually anchor over a 
    			reef. Usually you will catch fish, but they will be
    			small, very good eating, but not very exciting.
    			Once in a while you will hook into something
    			interesting like a grouper or red snapper. You can 
    			rent gear on the boat for $2 or $3. 
    	Bridges --	In the keys you can fish from bridges for free. You
    			buy bait and read the fishing reports in the papers
    			and you are essentially on your own. There are some
    			good fish to be caught (tarpon), usually at night
    			or at dusk. With some experience you can do well,
    			but it's not the best way to go if you are
    			unfamiliar with the area.
    
    There are some publications you may want to pick up when you get to
    Florida. They will list many of the boats available for charter and the
    articles may help you decide where to go. I like SALT WATER SPORTSMAN.
    It has good articles, a list of what fish are running in each area of
    the country and it has a directory of charter and party boats
    available. Another good one is FLORIDA SPORTSMAN.
    
    Good luck and have fun. If you would like to send me mail, feel free.
    
    Art
    
    		            
1408.4oeps my line amerlinUTROP1::KNECHT_JTue May 15 1990 10:3933
    Hello,
    
    RE: 1
    Right now I am only considering deep sea fishing and especially
    hoping for a merlin (or two). Preferably I would like to go to
    an area where these can be caught. 
    Regarding the location I have not yet considered going that far
    south as I am thinking about the straight flight A'dam Orlando.
    Isn't it possible to go to Fort Walton Beach or its vicinity.
    However thanks for the advise, I WILL consider it.
    
    Another question I have is what is a tarpon or bonefish that can
    be caught on the 'flats'? How big are they and how do you catch
    them....
    
    
    RE:3
    Although I like the word 'party' boat better the idea of a charter
    comes closer to what I am looking for.
    -How long does one stay out at sea 2 or 3 days? or do you go back
    to shore every night.
    -How far out can you catch merlin or any other big fish.
    -The cost of $500 a day, is this the total for the boat and gear etc..
    regardless the number of people aboard?
    
     
    Thanks for your accurate responses so far. 
    ps
    I noticed the moderator changed my 'bate'
    
    
    Johan.
                                             
1408.5WAHOO::LEVESQUEThe quest for Lord Stanley's CupTue May 15 1990 12:1458
>    Right now I am only considering deep sea fishing and especially
>    hoping for a merlin (or two).

 Ok- that means you will have to charter a boat. Marlin (the correct spelling,
by the way) are virtually never caught on party boats. You can expect to pay
anywhere from $500-$750 per day per boat plus a 10-15% tip is customary.  A good
operation will have you on the water for 10-12 hours for that kind of money.

 Please be advised that there is a good chance that you will not catch a marlin!

Depending on where you go, it averages out to 3-10 days fishing per marlin
caught. However, you will almost always catch SOMETHING, be it a dorado (dolphin
fish) a wahoo, or sailfish, or tuna that will put up a good fight.

 Good captains will really work for your money, especially if you book for more
than one day.

 The price quoted is per boat, for 1 to 6 passengers (plus the captain and his
mate). Most captains seems to like you to keep the number of people on the boat
around 4.

 As to where to go...

 I doubt you want to go to the gulf of mexico. To hit the blue water, you
have about 90-125 miles to run. Your best bet is to fish in the atlantic
(the gulf stream) or to go to the pacific and fish Cabo San Lucas (Mexico) where
catching at least a small marlin is practically guaranteed. Another option is
to fish Venezuela, though getting a charter boat is more difficult than in the 
states.

 What you catch will undoubtedly be tied to when you decide to fish. Most large
fish are highly migratory, following water temps and bait populations which
change with the seasons. Your best bet is to either decide when you want to go
and find a place that will have the fish you want or decide where you want to go
and let the season dictate when you go. 

 Most, if not all boats leave at about 6 am and return to the dock around
5 pm; few stay out for days at a time.

 I was at Virginia Beach two years ago, and they averaged 1 600lb plus marlin
per day, and 5-6 small yellowfin tunas per day. They wanted $750 for a 12
hour day n the water. This was in July.

 Tarpon and bonefish...

 Tarpon are large fish that fight spectacularly. They are called "Silver Kings."
They live in close to shore and can be caught on bait or flies. A 100 lb fish
is fairly common, and a real monster will top the scales at about 200 lbs. The
average is probably closer to 40 lbs, but jumps out of the water alot and 
is supposed to be a riot to catch.

 Bonefish are small, wary fish that live on the flats (very shallow water over
flat sand). They are tough to catch, but are very strong and will put up
a great fight on appropriate tackle. 

 Good luck! I wish I had time and money to do this. :-)

 The Doctah