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1336.1 | | WAHOO::LEVESQUE | I've fallen and I can't get up! | Mon Feb 26 1990 12:24 | 5 |
| It depends on what bait or lure I'm using. Most times I keep the rod
horizontal, at a 90� angle to the running line. That way, if I get a
strike, the bait won't go sailing over my head on the hook set. :-)
The Doctah
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1336.2 | Keep it perpendicular to the line! | 11SRUS::LUCIA | Ice fishing makes your worm stiff | Mon Feb 26 1990 12:26 | 10 |
| Depends on the bait. For bottom baits like worms and jigs, I hold the rod tip
as high as possible (but leave room for a hookset). This increases sensitivity
as the line (and therefore any strikes) are perpendicular to the rod, providing
the maxmimum movement of the rod tip. If you hold the rod parallel to the
water, then the rod does not pick up or transmit vibrations/strikes/etc. as
well. For topwater baits, holding the rod horizontal is okay as it is possible
to see the strike. For 99.44% of all baits, I hold the rod so as to keep it
perpendicular to the line.
Tim
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1336.3 | DIFFERENT STROKES FOR DIFFERENT FOLKS | DCSVAX::SOTTILE | | Mon Feb 26 1990 12:35 | 13 |
| Bart, your problem is quite simple. I hold my rod both ways depending
on whay I'm using. For instants if I'm using a rubber worm or say a
jig (lures that you generally move slow) I'll hold my rod staight up
so that when I feel the slightest hit or bit of movement I can point
my rod tip down, reel in the slack and SET all in one motion. If your
not used to this just practice. It works very well for me...95%
The only time I point my rod horizontally is when I'm using fast moving
lures ie; spinner baits, crank baits...you need to be ready for thoses
unexpected hits.
I hope this helps.
Ken
ps what do ya think Manny?
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1336.4 | Proper stance will improve your game? | FARAD::GIBSON | DTN225-5193 | Mon Feb 26 1990 12:41 | 16 |
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Or you could use a "Rodholder". Sit back, have a brew & relax.
I didn't know there was a textbook method for holding rods? What style
would the "lean the rod on the gunnal" be called?
I have to aggree that by positioning one foot slighty forward and
pointed inwards and bending the knees a tad for cusioning the shock and
holding arms outward with the rod butt cradled under the groin mussles
will yield the most exemplatory results.
I hate this cold weather!!!! ARggggghhhhh!
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1336.5 | rod positioning depends on lure | FREEBE::M_RIVERA | | Mon Feb 26 1990 13:12 | 7 |
| Bart,what ken is explaining is basically in my mind the best way
to fish,but remember the type of lure you are using will determine
which way to hold the rod.All it takes is practice and remembering
jigs or rubber worms rod tip straight up.and crankbaits or spinners
rod tip down.good luck and happy bassin.
bassin manny.
p.s ken i'm ready when you are,bass beware!!!!
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1336.6 | | ABACUS::TOMAS | Joe | Mon Feb 26 1990 16:37 | 23 |
| So much of what I do while fishing becomes second nature that I have to stop
and think about what I really do and why. In general, I hold my rod tip at
about 10 A.M. with a tight line while working worms, jigs and grubs. This
allows me to use the sensitivity of the rod tip to help detect strikes while
leaving just enought of an arc in the line to see the more subtle strikes.
It also leaves me with plenty of room for a hookset. Unlike others who reel
down to a horizontal position before setting the hook, I've tried to get
into the habit of setting the hook immediately from the 10-11 o'clock position.
So far, the technique seems to work well for me. Of course, having a rod
like the All Star WR1 with lots of backbone makes a difference!
When using crankbaits or spinnerbaits, I like to keep my rod tip a little
higher to absorb the hit. Too many times I've had a good sized bass hit a
crankbait while moving and with my rod held horizontal and have the line
break. I attribute this to not using the rod tip to cushion and absorb the
impact of the strike. This is especially true if you prefer to use lighter
lines like 6-8# test (like I do).
Of course, when it's windy, I keep my rod tip down close to the water to
minimize wind slack.
-HSJ- (anyone seen open water lately? I've forgotten what it looks like!)
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1336.7 | CXO HAS PLENTY OF OPEN WATER | GENRAL::HUNTER | from SUNNY Colorado, Wayne | Mon Feb 26 1990 16:56 | 9 |
| re. -.1:
YUP, PLENTY of OPEN WATER on Pueblo Reservoir. At least 1000 acres
of it. Only ICE there yesterday was skim ice formed the night before.
Now, for Teller to open, the snows to leave and get replaced by RAIN
(GIVE ME MORE WATER), and get the lower unit repaired. (Open it
tonight to see what is trashed!) Then, high country reservoirs should
start opening in about 1 month. Northerns should start moving to the
shallows in about 2 weeks on the lower lakes. Should be FUN TIME,
soon! :-)
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1336.8 | Face the opposite direction ;-) | MSDOA::CUZZONE | | Tue Feb 27 1990 17:49 | 4 |
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RE:.6 I do the same thing Joe does but I hold my rod at 10:00 PM.
-SSS-
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1336.9 | When trolling... | HSKAPL::AALTO | Erkki Aalto @FNO DTN 879-4863 | Wed Feb 28 1990 02:15 | 7 |
| What about trolling then? How do you hold your rods when trolling
normal surface lures (= no deepriggers or planners)? In 90 degree
angle to boat or tilted backwards/forward?
It's ice-out time!
Eki
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1336.10 | Out of water?? | JUPITR::NEAL | | Wed Feb 28 1990 06:57 | 6 |
| How do you hold the rod when you have a fish breaking water/jumping? I
have seen some people stick their rod underwater in attempts to keep
the fish down. It does appear they manage to get off more when out of
water than in.
Rich
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1336.11 | | ABACUS::TOMAS | Joe | Wed Feb 28 1990 08:31 | 24 |
| Re: trolling
I don't do much trolling, but I would make sure that the rod tip is held
either high or at a 90 degree angle to the line. The pressure of the trolled
lure/bait will put pressure on the rod, plus, when a fish hits the bait, you
want the rod to act as a shock absorber. The rod can't absord the impact of
a striking fish if the rod angle to the line is almost flat.
Re: playing a fish
During tournaments, I'll keep the rod tip real low to help keep a fish from
jumping and throwing the hook. Most important is to keep the line tight.
Again, keep the rod tip high to act as a shock absorber for any sudden
surges or runs the fish might make. When fishing for fun, I enjoy letting
bass jump as it's far more exciting. This gives me the chance to practice
keeping a fish on. If I lose it...so I've done a long distance catch 'n
release.
I guess the important point to make is to let your rod do the work for you.
The lighter your line, the more important it is to let the rod action help.
Of course, proper setting of the drag and line condition also play important
roles.
-HSJ-
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1336.12 | | WAHOO::LEVESQUE | Makaira Indica | Wed Feb 28 1990 09:09 | 20 |
| > How do you hold the rod when you have a fish breaking water/jumping? I
> have seen some people stick their rod underwater in attempts to keep
> the fish down. It does appear they manage to get off more when out of
> water than in.
It all depends on the quarry and your equipment. Light tackle marlin
fishing requires different techniques than medium tackle bass fishing.
For most freshwater applications, you want to keep the line tight. I
usually put a good bend in the rod, and hold at 3:00 to 5:00 (to the
side or down. This tends to keep the fish from jumping around as much
as when you hold the rod high. Oh yeah, do not point the rod at the
fish- it puts the pressure directly on the reel and leads to line
breakage because the rod cannot absorb any of the shocks on the line.
This is the opposite tactic for light line large fish (marlin, tarpon,
etc). When the fish jumps, you are supposed to put as much slack in the
line as you can, because the magnitude of the fish's movements cannot
be tolerated by the line.
The Doctah
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1336.13 | What about "Reel" Fish?? | USRCV1::FRASCH | | Thu Mar 01 1990 08:15 | 21 |
| When dem big "O" salmon hit, you hold dat rod any which way you
can; up, down, sideways, whatever! (don't reccomend the groin area!)
Just don't point it at the fish! To him that means "I'm outa here".
I use medium action 8' rods, so there is a lot of shock taken by
the rod. I try NOT to hold it straight overhead just to keep clear
of flying hooks should they pop free. I'd rather smack one into
the canvas than my head!
The best part is when they get 10' from the boat!! Then anything
goes. I've had the reel under water to keep them out of the prop.
Seems salmon like to keep the prop between you and them. Sort of
like hide-and-seek, if you know what I mean. If I can, I'll take
a fish off either side rather than the stern. That keeps em away
from the prop, makes it easier to keep from falling overboard and
I usually dont poke someone else in the _____ with the net handle!
(Makes for a happier crew.)
Wish I hadn't read this note! Now I want to go work on my boat and
not customers! Oh well.
Don
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1336.14 | with two hands | DONMAC::MACINTYRE | Terminal Angler | Thu Mar 01 1990 09:39 | 5 |
| High when fishing slow moving bottom bumpers, low when fishing fast
moving baits...
donmac
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1336.15 | | HYEND::WOOD | | Thu Mar 01 1990 12:40 | 15 |
| I sure can relate with the Ontario method!
It's fun when they take a turn around a downrigger
cable that wasn't up all the way too or my first
time over there when a buddy of mine was just starting
to let the line out with a Jplug and the drag was
tightened way down from reeling in the line previously and
a king took it 20 ft behind the boat. He saw it jump,
and closed the switch on the reel and all of a sudden
all hell was braking loose behind the boat. The amazing
thing was that after it jumped about 6 times, he finally
realized the drag was closed down and loosened it but the
salmon didn't brake the line in that first 20 msecond time
frame. It must of been because it was only a baby (18 lbs) :-)
Marty
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