| Title: | Fishing Notes- Archived |
| Notice: | See note 555.1 for a keyword directory of this conference |
| Moderator: | DONMAC::MACINTYRE |
| Created: | Fri Feb 14 1986 |
| Last Modified: | Fri Sep 20 1991 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
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Most man made lakes get drawn down for dam repairs or weed control
on a yearly basis. This year they are again going to draw down my
favorite fishing hole, but instead of the usual 2-4 feet they plan on
dropping it 6-8 feet. They have some major dam problems and need to
correct it. The lake is 10-12 feet deep most places and has a 18-20
foot channel running down the middle. I assume that when this draw
down begins, (this week) the fish are going to scramble for deep water.
Does any one think that this increased concentration of fish is going
to cause major problems? I think that some of the larger fish are
going to have a field day feeding on the easy bait fish targets. I
would hate to see a major fish kill occur (couldn't prevent it anyways)
They did this one year on another lake near me and the fishing was
real slow the next year but it picked right up the next, also the pond
below the dam had some incredible fishing in it all fall and early
spring after the draw down. I plan on putting my Jon boat in the
channel after the draw down and checking out the situation I figure the
fishing will be incredible, if the concentration seems to high maybe I
will try to save some by moving them up stream one lake, BTW these
lakes, 5 of them are all connected by a stream and dam system built in
the 1800, there is a mill on the last dam/lake. Any one out there had
this happen to there lake and what did it do to the fishing?
Les
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| 1244.1 | Re: Lowering Water Levels | SALEM::DUMONT | Wed Sep 13 1989 12:33 | 19 | |
Les,
A good resemblence of the draw down on your lake would be Highland
Lake during last year. The lake is drawn down every year but
especially low last year for Dam repair. I've have fished Highland
this year and have noticed no difference, I don't think there was
a fish kill.
I would guess however that the effect of draw down on a lake would
be dependent upon the type of lake. I do know that a main reason
for oxygen depletion is due to dying weeds which replaces oxygen
with carbon minoxide. You may want to call the Fish & Game to ask
about the potential on your lake.
I know that on Highland lake (N.H.) they restricted Ice Fishing
due to the extreme low water which left only concentrated areas
for fish. You may want to ask if this is also being considered
for your lake.
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| 1244.2 | more info on draw downs | SOFBAS::SULLIVAN | Tue Sep 19 1989 15:46 | 14 | |
More info on draw downs.
Bill Unitus spoke at our club meeting last night. He is the
environmental Vice President of the Federation. Each town drawing
down a lake/pond must apply for a permit by the state.
On that permit is the exact amount of draw down.
Many towns disregard the limit on thier permit and do what they want.
If they draw down more than the permit allows then they can be held
liable to pay big $$ in fines etc.. If you think your favorite pond
got drwn down too much let you federation delegate know !! He can then
forward it to Unitus to see if the town has over stepped it's bounds.
"BASSMASTER"
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| 1244.3 | It has to be done with fore-thought.... | BTOVT::MORONG | Wed Sep 20 1989 07:13 | 39 | |
One of my favorite spots to fish suffered a complete killing
off of one species of fish, which most blame on the lowering of
the lake water level. The species that suffered was the Northern
Pike.
There is one guy (a former DEC engineer) who fished that lake
regularly, and he keeps track of everything (what he catches, where
he catches it, time of day, weather, ect...). Apparently he passes
the info on to the wildlife biologists. About 5 years ago, he caught
250+ Northern Pike in that lake. The next year he caught a grand total
of 5!!!
Although I'm not 100% sure of the details, here is what I heard that
happened. One the south end of the lake there is a swampy area that
extends several miles from the lake. This is where the Northern would
go to spawn. This lake was (still is) suffering from tremendous weed
growth in several areas, so the decision was made to lower the lake
level in an effort to kill off some of the weeds. When the lake was
lowered, the water became too shallow for the Northerns to reach the
swamp for the spawn. So, they headed North. At the north end of the
lake there is an outlet (into a stream) that is normally covered with
a grate/screen to keep the fish in. Apparently someone removed this
grate/screen, and when the Northern went north to spawn, they went
right over the dam, never to return.
Like I said, I don't know all this for a fact, but it is what the
popular local opinion is. How else would you explain the dramatic de-
crease in the population of that one species. However, since the
northern are gone, other species have started to flourish. Bass fishing
was great this spring, and is starting to get hot right now.
One thing that I did notice this summer was an unusually large amount
of dead Northern in the lake. We did catch some early in the spring,
but none during the summer. Most of the dead ones I saw were one the
bottom of the lake (less than 10 feet of water) or washed up on shore.
I really don't know what is causing this, but it sure has me wondering
what is killing these fish. I very seldom see a dead bass.
-Ron-
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| 1244.4 | ...and one more thing..... | BTOVT::MORONG | Wed Sep 20 1989 07:15 | 4 | |
Please note that the lake discussed in the previous note is NOT a
man-made lake.
-Ron-
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| 1244.5 | ANOTHER LIKE DROPPING!! | TOLKIN::BLANGELIER | Mon Sep 25 1989 15:19 | 14 | |
They are planning on dropping the lake i fish on LOWER NAUGKEG.
They plan on fixing the dam and adding a chemical in the spring
to kill off the abuntance of weeds. The bass fishing has been slow
and a few of us are wondering if the dropping of the lake and the
chemical will kill of what nice bass are left?? I plan on fishing
there in the winter to see if the bass fishing has picked up. The
lake however is 4-8 feet deep with about a 20ft. chanel in the middle
if they drop the lake 6ft. like there suppose to i'm wondering if
it will turn into a fish kill. I was also wondering since the best
spot is by the dam and is filled with stumps and logs if the lowering
of the water and the push of bass to deeper water with a weedy bottom
will have an effect on the bass....
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| 1244.6 | Its Gonna Get Tougher | PCCAD1::RICHARDJ | Bluegrass,Music Aged to Perfection | Fri Oct 13 1989 14:01 | 22 |
My wife is on the Conservation Commission in Winchendon. Any lake
that is to be lowered must have permission from the state via the
local conservation commission. Even private man made lakes fall under
this law. I live on Sunset Lake, and every year they have lowered
the lake four feet for weed control. Well as of Jan 1990 they will
have to apply for a permit. Draining lakes for weed control is not
legal, but for dam repairs it is. That's why you'll see towns and
associations lowering for Dam repairs, even if its to just to
replace the splash boards. Also, water front property owners will
have to apply for a permit to do beach work. The cost of the permit
is about $200.00. Don't blame the towns they get to keep $25.00 Dukakis
gets the rest. Those living on lakes may get together and apply for
a generic permit which all those listed on the permit may do beach
repair.
I kind of thought this was kind of overkill, but after hearing
about people filling beach's with sand from DPW dumps, and
sand from the ocean beaches, it makes sense. Last year we had
a woman dredging her beach during July. The entire lake was full
a silt, which kills fish and effects other wildlife as well. The
people living next door couldn't swim half the summer.
Jim
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