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Title:Fishing Notes- Archived
Notice:See note 555.1 for a keyword directory of this conference
Moderator:DONMAC::MACINTYRE
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Sep 20 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1660
Total number of notes:20970

1175.0. ""Flyfishing" with spinning gear" by SX4GTO::BERNARD (Dave from Cleveland) Fri Jun 23 1989 13:01

    
    Did some DIR/TITLE=, and couldn't find anything related to this topic,
    so...
    
    I've been hearing little snippets (tippets?) now and then about
    "flyfishing" with spinning gear.  You attach a bubble to your line
    for weight, and a fly, and that's about it.  Just cast from there.
    
    I looked over in FLYFISHING, and it seems that a similar topic might
    have been started, but the original base note disappeared.  Perhaps
    I will have to write a thousand times: "Spinning is not flyfishing"
    once the Purist Police catch up with me.
    
    However, I'm intrigued by the concept- is it of any value?  Is it
    the worst of all possible worlds?  Or is it a decent compromise if
    I only want to bring one rod & reel on a trip?
    
    Has anyone tried this?  Any success?  Any outstanding advantages
    or disadvantages?
    
    And what kinds of hints or techniques do you use?
    
    I understand that for legal purposes the use of spinning tackle
    disqualifies you from fly-only waters, but I'm not interested
    in legalities, only technicalities.
    
    A fond adieu, as I head for the hills to hide from the die-hards.
    
    	Dave
    
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1175.1Not a great match IMHOSA1794::CUZZONESFri Jun 23 1989 13:4114
    Dave,
    
    I've tried it when I'm bored.  I think the biggest disadvantage
    I haven't overcome is the splash the bubble makes when it hits the
    water.  I'm not used to casting upstream and drifting over exactly
    the right spot.  Too often, I've given up on the bubble/dry fly
    and caught smallmouth on bigger lures placed to the same spots.
    Best luck I've had is with fallfish/chub.  Of course I don't know
    sh*t about fly selection etc.  Like I said ... when I'm bored. 
    I think if you want to flyfish, you ought to do it right.  It's
    nice to have another weapon in your arsenal but there's a lot to
    be said for doing just a few things well.
    
    -SSS-
1175.2It's functional...RIPPLE::CORBETTKEKENNY CHINOOKFri Jun 23 1989 19:0016
    Dave,
    
    I use it a lot.  Sometimes around here (Oregon), access to the holes
    on the other side of the river is very difficult. i.e. one road
    which tends to stay on one side of the river and the only access
    to the other side is from several miles away through the timber.
    This tends to limit the ability of a person with a fly rod with
    no weight on it.  So, when the cadfly's and mayfly's are hatching,
    this method allows you reach the other side of some of these streams
    and hit those good looking holes that always seem to be out of reach.
    
    Most purists are a pain in the *ss anyway.
    
    
    
    Ken
1175.3Best for Lakes/PondsSAVVY::LUCIAHe's dead, JimWed Jun 28 1989 14:1516
The presentation of a fly via fly equipment is much more appropriate, especially
in rivers or streams when casting to specific holes.  I have caught more trout
in ponds/lakes using flies on a spinning rod than all other methods combined.
It is quite a deadly combination, especially on ponds where you cannot use a
flyrod, either for lack of waders, or to many trees for a good back cast.  If
you use 4lb test and a medium sized bubble, you can cast the fly from here to
kingdom come.  In particular, while in college, there is a pond in Amherst MA
which (Puffer's Pond) has a corner by a waterfall.  The owner of the property
does not allow fishing and it drops off to quickly to wade.  I've case from
100-150' with the spinning rod to catch some nice browns rising in his corner.

I prefer the flyrod where appropriate, but I'll certainly use the spinning 
equipment almost as easily.


Tim
1175.4How 'Bout Some "Bubbly" Info...CLSTR1::VARLEYWed Jun 28 1989 15:476
     What's the best way to rig a "bubble" with flies ? Do you tie the
    running line to one end and a leader to the other ? How much leader,
    and what # test? If you fish "wets", do you retrieve 'em, and if
    so, how?
    
    --The Skoal bandit
1175.5Can't tie to my bubbleEPOCH::JOHNSONRule #6: There is no rule #6.Wed Jun 28 1989 17:199
My bubble ("Adjust-a-bubble", I think) is designed so the line passes right
through, from one end of the bubble to the other, through a length of surgical
tubing.  When twisted, the tubing firmly grasps the line without damaging it.

I usually make up about a six-foot 'leader' out of the same line I have on the
spool, tie a surgeon's loop on one end, slip the bubble (tapered end first)
over the other end almost to the loop, and then tie a fly on the other end with
a Buckley (I think) figure-eight knot.  I then attach the loop to the snap on
the end of my spool line and I'm off!
1175.6SAVVY::LUCIAHe's dead, JimWed Jun 28 1989 18:063
Fill the bubble full for under the surface.  Not quite full for on the surface.
retrieve slowly, stopping now and then to let the fly sink.
/Tim
1175.7That's SPINN-FLY, the deadly weapon!HSKAPL::AALTOErkki Aalto @FNO A&L PortfolioTue Oct 03 1989 08:3417
    SPINN-FLY it's called here over the "puddle" and it has had a great
    success in recent years. Casting with more or less water filled
    plastic bubble has been around for several years but the real hot
    stuff is using spinning gear with weight on the line and a salmon
    fly in the end. Most used fly types are tube, streamer and spuddler.
    
    The idea is to get your fly in those sheltered holes where salmon/
    trout are resting when water is running high and you can't reach
    them with traditional flygear. Flylines -however fast sinking they
    are- tend to move along with water too fast, thus the much thinner
    spinning line has much less resistance and can be manouvered easily.
    And of course you don't need the backcast space.
    
    Try it you'll like it, and get some fish on the side!
    
    Eki