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Title:Fishing Notes- Archived
Notice:See note 555.1 for a keyword directory of this conference
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Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Sep 20 1991
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Number of topics:1660
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1141.0. "WHERE, WHEN, and HOW ON SHARKS" by JETSAM::CATALDO () Wed May 17 1989 21:30

    Does anyone have any information about the dates or place of the
    shark fishing tournaments at the Cape?  I have heard rumors that
    it is in July, however, September sounds more realistic. Charlie
    and I would appreciate ANY information provided as to tackle,
    techniques, and how to deal with a significantly large shark (8'&) at
    the boat once its played out.
    I have read that large sharks must be tail-roped and dragged until
    they are drowned.  Then dragged a little longer.  I've caught numerous
    small spotted sharks (5'-), and sand sharks, but would really like
    to tie into one worth fighting.  I appreciated the note on chumming
    for sharks.
    Carlo
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1141.1sharkingWAHOO::LEVESQUEWhy do you have to die to be a hero?Thu May 18 1989 10:0599
    ok-
    
     The sharks that you will be wanting to catch during a tournament on
    Cape Cod are generally blues and makos, with makos being the more
    difficult species of the two to catch.
    
     The Oak Bluffs tourney is usually around the last week in July, if
    memory serves me correctly. The captain that I have been chartering for
    sharks for the last two years won the Oak Bluffs tourney last year (for
    a customer).
    
     You will probably want to use 50 lb class tackle. 30 lb may be more
    sporting, but you don't want to drop a fish during a tourney. 80 lb
    tackle is often used by the "big boys."
    
     You should have 12-15 feet of at least 200# wire as a leader. The
    hooks should be about 9/0 or so. SHARPEN them.
    
     You can buy frozen chum, usually menhaden or mackerel works well.
    It is generally useful to attempt to catch some live bait, or at least
    get some fresh bait. The sharks do like it better.
    
     You should spend some time to catch some fresh blues the day before,
    and keep them cool.
    
     Your chum (frozen 5 gal container) should be tied in a milk crate on
    the side of the boat, so it allows the wave action to disperse the
    chum. This is the no-muss no-fuss method of chumming. Occasionally, you
    should toss a small, solid morsel of fish into the slick. If you elect
    to use freshly ground chum, you should keep a steady slick going (do
    NOT stop if you hook up). Remember- you are trying to attract them, not
    feed them. You don't need a river of chum.
    
     Once you have the chum slick going, it is time to set out the baits.
    The best baits are fresh- fresh bluefish fillets, mackerel (whole or
    fillet) menhaden, etc all work very well. If you can't get fresh, use
    frozen, but fresh is definitely preferred. The baits should be set out
    on balloons. You generally want to space them out- 1 around 20 feet, 1
    around 40 and 1 around 60 feet deep. The Deeper the bait, the farther
    it should be from the boat (chum sinks). ie- the closer baits should be
    the shallowest.
    
     When the sharks come, and if you're in the right place it shouldn't
    take more than an hour or two, get ready for action.
    
     All of a sudden, one of the balloons will start swimming away. (I
    guess I should have stated that the reels should be on free spool,
    clicker on.) Let it alone! Put on your belt (and harness), and pick up
    the rod from the holder. The shark may or may not stop to eat his meal.
    In any case, you should count to at least ten s l o w l y before
    attempting to set the hook. When you decide you can't take it any more,
    put the reel into gear, and aim the rod at the fish, so he can get all
    the slack out of the line. When the line comes taut let him have it a
    time or two. Now the line should start peeling off the reel. Sit back
    and relax- don't try to reel yet. When the initial run ends, then start
    to quick pump the shark to turn his head. Once his head is turned,
    don't let him turn it around again.
    
     Eventually, after a couple of runs, the shark will come grudgingly to
    the boat. When you have the leader at the tip, you will want to lighten
    up on the drag a little (compensating for it with your hand on the
    spool). The leader man should grab the leader (wearing gloves) making
    certain not to wrap the leader around his hand! When the shark some to
    the surface, he will generally twist around in the leader a few times.
    Now is the time to a) hit the fish with the flying gaff (should already
    be cleated) b) pop the little bugger with a 12 gauge slug in the head
    via shotgun or bang stick c) attempt to stop his thrashing long enough
    to get a tail rope on him or d) tag him and cut the leader. By no means
    should tagging be the last option. It should be first. Most tournaments
    require that you tag and release some or all of your fish.
    
     In any case, once the fish is caught (and is to be kept), the tough
    part begins. This large, prehistoric animal will not understand what is
    going on- he will only know he doesn't like it. He will be thrashing
    around like crazy. He should be tied off to the side of the boat. His
    tail should be tied up out of the water. Often people will cut the
    veins near the tail to bleed the fish to death. this has the added
    value of attracting and exciting more sharks.
    
     Be extremely careful of the teeth. With makos, their malevolence is
    obvious, but blues seem less dangerous. They are still very dangerous,
    and you should not go anywhere near the mouth of the shark, even when
    it APPEARS dead. Sharks can live for a long time out of water. In fact,
    the captain that I charter told me that he caught a very large blue one
    time, and dragged it up onto his lawn. The next day, when he walked
    past it, it snapped at him! He thought it was dead. Almost doesn't
    count.
    
     I  hope you find some of this informative. The next thing to do is to
    buy a copy of Saltwater Sportsman or Sportfishing. They seem to have an
    article about sharks just about every issue. I have told you enough to
    catch sharks.
    
    Where to go: We found a great spot about 5 miles west of the banana
    buoy south of the cape last year. We caught a total of 8 sharks, the
    largest of which was my #300lb 12ft blue shark. All our sharks last
    year were released.
    
     The Doctah
1141.2VERRRRRRRY INTERESTING, DOCTAHJETSAM::CATALDOFri May 19 1989 18:4411
    Thanks Doctah for the most informative tips I've had the pleasure
    to read!  Especially that tip about the longevity of life after
    it has been thought to be final.  I shall give thought to carrying
    a shotgun or rifle in the boat.  New to me also is the idea of
    bleeding the shark from the tail.  Good multi-purpose tip; I'll
    be sure to remember that one, and hopefully, get to use it.
    In fact, I'm going to put your tips on hardcopy, seal the sheet
    and leave them in the boat to memorize while I'm bottom fishing
    this weekend.                                              
    Carlo
    
1141.3Bait? Ice?AD::GIBSONLobst'a Ayh'a I'm the NRAMon May 22 1989 09:5914
    While we are on the subject, and since Sharks will be here soon.
    
    Where in the Salem/Beverly area can I find a Commercial fish pier?
    
    I have just recently moved my boat down to Danverport Yacht Club and I
    would like to know some of the best places to buy Ice and Bait for Tuna
    and Shark fishing. Also where I can sell my catch off the boat?
    
    Up in Newburyport I would go to the Co-Op on the Merrimack River. You
    could buy 100 lb tubs of herring for $15-$20 and 100lb tubs of Ice for
    $5.
    
    What about it? does anyone have any info?       Walt