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1127.1 | "Thingies" and flashers. | LEDS::BEAULIEU | | Tue May 09 1989 13:56 | 8 |
| From what I have heard hooking up trailer lights to some cars/trucks
can cause the on board computer to malfunction (I'm not sure why)
these "thinges" aparently Keep the trailer lights isolated from the
rest of the elec system. It might be a good idea to have a heavy duty
flasher in your truck also, since most cant handle the extra load of the
trailers lights.
Shawn
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1127.2 | The Old Black Box Syndrome | LUDWIG::MATTSON | | Tue May 16 1989 11:12 | 38 |
| Jack,
How's it going other than the lights? Remeber me,Mr.couldn't
make up his mind on which boat to buy(Your right,I already want
a bigger one).
Anyhow getting back to your problem. I'm making a couple of
assumptions here. The black box your refering to I think is used
beacause your directional lights and stop lights are on a seperate
circuit. Most boat hook ups get away with having the 4 wire set
up. One is ground,one is the running lights,and the other two are
the right and left directionals that also include the stop lights.
My Cherokee has separate wires for the stop lights,running
lights,and one wire each for the right and left directional. So
add the ground wire in and now your talking 5 wires. The black box
takes the 5 wire input and brings it out to the standard 4 wire
connector. Mine like yours is all expoxied and you can't do anything
with it. I believe there's some swtiching circuitry in there to
make the 5 wire input act like the 4 wire out put at your connector.
(I could get into all the details but it doesn't really matter because
the box is sealed).
The only thing I can suggest is again check all the connections
for corrosion and clean them,Check the grounds. Then if this doesn't
fix it,does your right directional on the towing vehicle work fine
with out the trailer hooked up. If it does then it sounds like the
input going into that black box is fine and it's probobly the black
box. If it's not working fine and has the same symptom as what your
seeing on the trailer,then I think it has something to do with your
wiring on the Towing vehicle.
One little hint Connectors for the lamps sometimes look good
and there not. If your pretty handy with a crimping tool or soldering
wires, I'd cut the one you getting the low voltage reading on to
isolate it and check it. That way you eliminate the load it's going
to, as a potential problem. You can always splice it back together
later. You don't want to buy a new black box unless you pretty
confident you've eliminated everything else. Also as mentioned earlier
a heavy duty flasher is a good think to invest in.
Good Luck,
Gary
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1127.3 | Blown Diodes? | EDRON1::DOTY | Russell Doty, ESG | Tue May 16 1989 13:46 | 10 |
| I've read that the 4to5 convertors use diodes that are fairly easy
to "blow" (destroy) with voltage spikes (and perhaps short circuits).
Heavy duty convertors are available that use relays instead of diodes.
I've seen these convertors recommended for use with large trailers,
etc.
Try replacing the convertor.
Regards,
Russ
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1127.4 | Probably the converter | CHET::BEAUCHESNE | | Tue May 16 1989 14:02 | 16 |
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Jack,
I had somewhat of the same problem with one of them converter
'thingies' - and the converter was BRAND NEW. Problem was loose
solder on two of the wires. On mine, I could peel back the
label to reveal two screws which held the cover on. Unscrew,
pop the cover, resolder, put it back together, SECURE the wires
so it won't happen again (silicone worked good), and connect
it back up. I had to use silicone because every time (4-5)
I put the cover back on, the wire notches in the box weren't
deep enough, and the wire pulled off of the solder. Needless
to say, when I was done with it, it was in no condition to be
returned for a refund! But, it works now. ;^)
Moe
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1127.5 | Ill hang a lantern | CGVAX2::HAGERTY | Jack Hagerty KI1X | Tue May 16 1989 16:24 | 19 |
| This is great. Thanks for the last few replys.
I left it just the way it was - I had a tourney on Saturday and
didnt want to end up with 'no' lights.
To restate - if I measure from the plug at the truck, JUST the right
blinker is showing REAL low volts compared to the left blinker.
I first towed the boat with my VW Quantum (No - they dont make reels!)
It has a 5 cylinder Audi engine. Worked great till I had to drag
it out of a few 'soft'? ramps.....
I installed the same black box thinkie in it and I extracted the
thing last night. But before I swapr the trucks, Im checking the
wiring in what I installed. I also will do some surgery on the unit
in the truck to see if I can tell. Will report back. I doubt it
get half a short, but wonder if i have a total disconnect from
the right side blinker. Time to go exploring with my meter some
more.
Jack -who shud be loading line for the winni derby....
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1127.6 | TOYOTA ... OH WHAT A FEELING!! | PHILEM::VACHON | | Fri May 26 1989 17:02 | 11 |
| Jack,
I was wondering if you ever found out what the problem was with
your lights because my truck seems to be doing the same thing!!
In my case when I put on my brake lights the right one is really
bright because both the brake & tail lights are on at the same
time.
Bass-O-Matic
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1127.7 | Its the Black Box Thingie | CGVAX2::HAGERTY | Jack Hagerty KI1X | Mon May 29 1989 09:19 | 5 |
| I swapped the exact unit I installed in the car. Worked after that.
I think the little box thingie has got several diodes to prevent
the trailer/hitch wiring from shorting out the trucks wiring.
Case closed. Replace the 'black box thingie'. Ive not tried to pry
open the broke one to see what the problem is.
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