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Title:Fishing Notes- Archived
Notice:See note 555.1 for a keyword directory of this conference
Moderator:DONMAC::MACINTYRE
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Sep 20 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1660
Total number of notes:20970

1034.0. "Flatfish "Safe to Eat" ?" by EBBV02::DOMINICK (Joseph Dominick 272-7054 CHM1 EBB Tool Generation) Thu Mar 16 1989 15:10

    
    
    
     reprinted w/o permission 
     from Salt Water Sportsman
     April '89 Issue.
    
    
           Flatfish Safe To Eat
    
         "Studies suggest that at least two of the most popular
          recreational species, winter Flounder and summer Flounder
          (Fluke) caught in New Jersey are safe to eat.  According 
          to Tom Belton of the NJDEP Office of Science and Research,
          these two species consistently check out with levels of
          Dioxin and PCB's which are either absent or well below the
          federal standards regarding danger to human health. Belton
          felt this was extraordinarily good news, given recent public
          hysteria over the summer concerning fish kills and beach 
          closings."
    
          * Has anyone heard of any reports like this for MA?  I would
            like to know if there are any spots in MA to catch "safe"
            flounder.
    
            I would never eat anything caught in Boston Harbor or Quincy
            Bay.  The Beverly/Salem Harbors were even polluted last
            summer.
    
            I remember days of flounder fishing at Quincy and City Point.
            I would love to see those days return......
    
      
         
          
         
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1034.1<Flatfish "Safe to Eat"?>TUNER::WALSHThu Mar 16 1989 15:323
    I second that Joe, I also remember those days. Catching flounder
    cod and stripers at Quincy, Castle Island and the Summer St.
    Bridge. I hope they haven't been lost forever.  
1034.2I'll be dining on sole!PACKER::GIBSONThu Mar 16 1989 18:1310
    If you get out of Salem harbor a bit and head over to Manchester
    there is some clean bottom that has plenty of flats. You can also
    try Loblolly cove or down off rockport way. Folly cove is clean
    and has lots of doormats.
    
    By the way for those of you who remember me (it's been so long)
                              I'm BACK!!!! :)
    
                                         Walt
    
1034.3EBBV02::DOMINICKJoseph Dominick 272-7054 CHM1 EBB Tool GenerationFri Mar 17 1989 08:577
    
      Walt
    
             Where is Loblolly Cove and Folly Cove?  Are they off from
    Manchester Harbor?  I do remember fishing off Rockport once. It
    looked like a quarry there...alot of granite rocks at the boat ramp.
    Is this one of the sites?  
1034.4Safe...with cautionSOLKIM::HORWITZBeach BagelFri Mar 17 1989 09:3039
    For the past few years, my local club has been going to Quincy for
    flounder. After hearing about the problems, we contacted the MA.
    fish &game (?) department. They sent us tons of reports explaining
    the cautions issued around the consumption of Quincy/Boston Harbor
    fish. These cautions are very similar to those issued in NJ for
    (larger) bluefish. 
    Briefly, these cautions are:
    	1. Limit your intake to one meal (of flounder) per week.
    	2. Pregnant women should avoid eating these fish.
    	3. Recommended that children under 12 not consume these fish.
    
    Included in the info package were the assumptions used to calculate
    the probability of contracting cancer from consumption of Quincy/Boston
    flounder. The calculations are based on the premise of eating a
    'normal' portion of flounder, every day, for 70 years. For the average
    person, the odds of contracting cancer were so great they had to
    be expressed in scientific notation. 
    
    **note; a normal portion, every day for 70 years. In my opinion,
    this is the same as when they test possible carcinogens in labratory
    rats. That is, consumption of abnormally high concentrations of
    the substance. (Personally, I think that in time, science will prove
    that too much of anything will cause cancer.)
    
    Included in the reports were comparisons to consumption of other
    substances. I found it interesting to see that we are also at risk
    from consuming peanut butter, and drinking the water in certain
    cities, including New Orleans.
    
    Our take, from reading the reports, and talking to the official
    who sent them to us, is that the fish are ok to eat, in moderation
    (with attention to the warnings for pregnant women and kids).
    
    As with all the other species of fish which are carrying pollutants,
    it is recommended that the 'safest' way to prepare the fish is to
    broil or bake (on a rack) skinless fillets.
    
    Bagel
    
1034.5a few more spots.PACKER::GIBSONFri Mar 17 1989 12:3014
    Joe .
    Lobblolly Cove is off Manchester, it is about 15-20 ft deep and
    has a mud/sand bottom. Folly Cove is just north of Rockport, it
    is rocky by the shore ( steep cliffs) and drops off to 30 ft and
    then to 60 ft plataue (sp) with a sand bottom. There are also flats
    in rockport harbor just off the jetty you mentioned. Try the ocean
    side of it.  Another fine spot is Glousta harba. head to the right
    as you come out of the Annisquam River ( Carful of the rocks) and
    go about 100 yrds out off the park/playground. Very productive.
    
    I'm going to try using nightcrawers this spring, Something new!
     
                                             Walt
    
1034.6Nightcrawlers on the lighthouse jettySAVVY::LUCIAThere are those who call me...Tim!Mon Mar 20 1989 12:216
I caught plenty of flounder and pollock of the lighthouse jetty in Glouster
Harbour.  I imagine the Anisquam River might even be better but I don't have
a boat to test my theory.  ps:  Nightcrawlers work just as well as sea worms
and they are much cheaper.

Tim
1034.7Memorial day fishingSALEM::HARTTrout Fishing In America Thu May 25 1989 11:417
    
     I am going to be near Cape cod (canal area)for the weekend and I want to do
    some flounder fishing. Does anyone have any reports on whats happening
    down there ? I will be fishing from the shore.
    
                                Thanks
                                            Kevin