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Title:Fishing Notes- Archived
Notice:See note 555.1 for a keyword directory of this conference
Moderator:DONMAC::MACINTYRE
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Sep 20 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1660
Total number of notes:20970

1001.0. "Weedless Electric Prop question" by CGVAX2::HAGERTY (Jack Hagerty KI1X) Fri Feb 24 1989 22:55

    OK folks - this is a little more detail in the question catagory.
    I need some info on electric motors. I searched the DIR for both
    weedless and electric and came up empty.  (DonMac - move if
    I missed it.)
    
    Who has a really weedless prop. Id like the opinions of owners
    of electric motors as to whether or not they are really weedless
    or HOW weedless they really are. 
    
    My bass boat has a Johnson OMC electric. If I go into any weeds
    at all - I need to - stop, pull the cotter pin and clear the weeds
    off the shaft. If I fail to do so - the performance drops - it seems
    - below 50%. Of the other brands - do they reall offer a
    better weedless prop? Does anyone know of a prop that fits the Johnson
    thats a better weedless prop? ( I dont like the 'cage' idea at all.
    I just think you end up clearing that just as often if not  more.)
         
    Keeping the boat straight. If you dont pay close attention - the
    foot control is effected by the torque and veers off course. I wish
    I could tighten down the control the make that stop. I like the
    opinions of how the other brands perform to this problem. I sometimes
    wish I had the electric that just has a single handle thats turned
    by hand in the direction you want to go. Do they always stay in
    that direction? or do you have to constantly monitor it.
    
    Sometimes being in the front seat gets you the better casts - yes,
    maybe? Sometimes its a real pain. Please - comments.
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1001.1I DON'T have the answerSA1794::CUZZONESSurfcasting with the AlienMon Feb 27 1989 09:3820
    Jack,
    
    Can't help much 'cause I have the Evinrude and it's no more weedless
    than yer Johnson.  I have found that sometimes, after passing through
    a weedbed and getting clogged, a fast burst of reverse clears most
    of the weeds.  But, a prolonged pass through the cabbage patch will
    ultimately stall me right out.  I do have the handle version and
    can say it is no better than your description as far as having to
    frequently adjust the direction to stay on course ... my boat has
    a lot of freeboard and is extremely wind-sensitive.  An added danger
    is having to lean over to reach for the handle ... more than once,
    I have almost been pitched overboard as I leaned when a wake/wave
    hit simultaneously.   I know I could concoct a makeshift extension
    (or buy ready-made) ... it would be worth a lot if it kept me high
    and dry just once.
    
    I know there's gotta be a solution that is closer to the ideal than
    what I have.  I just don't wanna invest another $3-500.  
    
    -SSS-
1001.3pass the saladMOSAIC::MACINTYRETerminal AnglerMon Feb 27 1989 09:513
    With my 28lb MinnKkota 565 bow mount, grabbing the rope and pulling
    the unit just out of the water and pressing the switch on 5th speed
    usually sends most of the gunk flying (on me sometimes)... donmac
1001.4propDNEAST::VORHIS_ALMon Feb 27 1989 10:387
    I have the Evinrude 12/24 volt bow mount on my bassboatand had the
    same problem with weeds until I purshased the weedless prop from
    an OMC dealer . This option works very well , I like the slop and
    this works fine for me . The prop costs 14-15$ and is well worth
    it . If your motor is too small for the load it won't make a lot
    of difference though and probably continue to bog down .
    
1001.5Top of the line OMC - no reverse!?CGVAX2::HAGERTYJack Hagerty KI1XTue Feb 28 1989 09:2219
    First - I didnt realize OMC MADE a weedless prop. You can bet one
    is on my shopping list - besides I could keep the existing one for
    a spare.  -- You gotta understand - the current prop is so un-weedless
    I usually after fishing do all the normal maintainance - which includes
    removing the prop (usually AGAIN), removing all the weeds and
    regreasing the spindle. Its hard on us old guys - especially if
    we have hangovers - while fishing, leaning out over the front of
    the boat, pull the cotter pin, remove the prop WITHout dropping
    the shear pin into the drink, cleaning the spindle, and then getting
    the prop LINED (Grrrrr) up to get back on...
    OMC DONT GOT NO REVERSE - wish it did. Guess for the pupose of buying
    again. Your list of what to look for; Weedless, reverse, stable
    steering.
    Thanks for responses. The steering 'torque' problem is you have
    to contantly look at the trolling motor to see where its pointed.
    Not paying attention, even tho your foot is on the control, will
    have you going in a different direction because the control position
    changes with the running of the electric. (Your foot is moving and
    you dont realize it.)
1001.6If you need the arrow, don't use itHPSCAD::WHITMANAcid rain burns my BASSTue Mar 14 1989 08:3923
<    Thanks for responses. The steering 'torque' problem is you have
<    to contantly look at the trolling motor to see where its pointed.
<    Not paying attention, even tho your foot is on the control, will
<    have you going in a different direction because the control position
<    changes with the running of the electric. (Your foot is moving and
<    you dont realize it.)
<


  Ya know, I had the same problem with my MinnKota until I busted the little
direction indicator knob (on the MinnKota it's like an old radio volume control
knob) with an errant cast of a spinnerbait (made a terrible rats nest in my
baitcaster).  Well being the lazy slob that I am I never got around to
replacing the indicator.  You'd be surprised at how sensitive you get to the
position of your foot and the direction you're traveling when you don't have
any other 'crutches' to lean on.  It's sort of like touch typing,  as long as
you keep looking at your fingers, you'll never really learn the keyboard.

Try pasteing a piece of cardboard over the arrow for awhile (give it a month
or so) and see if you still feel the same way.  The first few times you'll get
all screwed up, but it doesn't take long before it's second nature....

Al
1001.7Does anyone have a REAL WEEDLESS?CGVAX2::HAGERTYJack Hagerty KI1XTue May 09 1989 11:159
    Well here is an up date on the weedless electric prop issue. I dont
    need to buy a Weedless prop. The one I have IS weedless. Or its
    sold as such. According to the book - i went back and read my
    book/brochure/directions - the model I own is weedless. I honestly
    have not been to a dealer to ask for one I wanted to figure out
    size/model I had and the darn thing is weedless. I buying a spare anyway
    - hey - I have spares of ALL my lures, dont you? If I find out Im
    wrong - Ill report back. Dont get upset if you see me spinning your
    electric props and asking questions.