Conference wahoo::fishing

 My experience at derbies has been that worms catch the most fish. Other
 than that the Brown or Red Rooster tail works good.
    
    Good Luck
    Jim

    For a club derby I would agree with using worms, slide a mashmallow
    up the hook first to about the eye, this will kep it floating and
    produces more trout hits.  Use the Mini-mallows.  Oh yeah put a
    slip weight and a split shot about 12-14" up from the hook.
     
     If you want to use lures try a 1/10 oz Colorodo or a red and white
    dare-devil, any color rooster tail, blue fox spiners I forget the
    size but I like the copper color.  Good luck tell us how you do!
    
    
    Les

    I personally have great luck with yellow or yellow/black (bee pattern)
    rooster tails, � to � oz size.  Get lots of trout.  The marshmallow
    and worm (meal or earth) is the deadliest, except when trout are
    taking flies on the surface.  Perch bugs work well in the spring
    too (Perch bugs are dragon fly larvae, can be found in early to
    mid spring by raking last years leaves out of the edge of a pond
    and looking for slow-moving, very ugly bugs, like mini-dinasaurs.)
    
    Tim
    

    RE:2   Is there a specific reason as to why you put the swivwel
    and split shot so far up? I usually have it only about 5 or 6" from
    the hook. BTW, I do intend to bring mealey and garden worms along
    with the marshmallows and the salmon eggs. The reason I wanted to
    know some lures to use was this is Sat night and it is going to
    be coooooooldd and I figured if I kept casting for awhile it might
    help me stay warm. I don't think Budweiser will help and I don't
    drink hard stuff. This ought to be something there are no lights
    and the ponds so the only lighting will be from lanterns, etc. I
    hope somebody gets a bon-fire going. Thanks for the suggestions,
    I will be hitting the Northboro Trading Post on my way home tonight.
    
    Jan
    

   
    One thing about derbies. After the first fifteen minutes the fish
    are kind of shellshocked. I personally would use a bobber insted
    of fishing the bottom. Brown trout like gold colors, but unlike
    rainbow and brook trout, they are finicky on lures.

    Jim

    I would add Panther Martin spinners to the list.  BTW, I find the
    smaller, the better (size 0, no bigger than size 1).
    
    My personal experience has demonstrated that Bologna chunks will
    work, too.
    
    Good luck,
    Steve

    Browns love shinners!!
    
    	If you are going to use flies try black wollieworms with a red
    tail. 

    RE: 7
    
    Thanks Bob but there is no way I am going to get out there with
    a bunch of half crocked people with a flyrod especially in the dark.
     This si strictly a fun derby. I just want to try different lures
    to see how I do.
    
    Thanks again
    Jan
    

    Thompson's Gold spoon, � oz or less, works well
    

    Jan,
        I use about a 1/4- 1/2 OZ. slip weight and a piece of spilt
    shot about about 12-14" up from the hook.  This will allow the 
    worm and marshmallow to float off the bottom and putting it
    in plain sight of Mr. Trout.  When the trout takes it and runs
    it will only feel the weight of the split shot.  I usually leave
    my bail open and wait for the line to start peeling off the spool
    to set the hook.  If you are fishing at night you can get those
    flags that will trip up when you get a hit, they attach to the 
    rod, or a bell that does the same thing.
        Dont forget these freshly stocked trout are STUPID!!!  after
    you get your lines in the water throw a handful of real tiny pebbles
    in the water near you rigs,  They just might think that it is the
    feeding pellets they have been getting in the hatchery.   But the
    people along side you might not like it to much.
    
    
    Les 

    Hay Jan,
    
    	I also fish these trout type derbies and always use flies with
    a spinning rod.  You can buy this clear plastic bubble in the shape
    of a cigar.  There is a hollow tube through the middle.  You put
    your line through the tube leave 3-5 feet for a leader,  Then open
    it up and fill with water for casting weight, twist the two sections
    so the tube kinks up and holds your line!!\
    
    Great in the summer you can cast a fly a mile!
    
    You can very the amount of air/water in the boubble for floating
    flies for deep  runners!!
    
    You will usually get more fish with the flies at these derbies but
    for browns I would still say shinners on a bobber,  This could weather
    will have them cruising te surface and close to shore!!
    
    Just incase you are interest trout spawn now and will be in close
    to the banks.  We have fished with waders on and caught fish behind
    us between the bank and deep water.
    
    Good luck
    Bassin Bob  (who fishes for trout once in a while!)
    

    Beleive it or not Bob I do know what you are talking about. My only
    problem is I do not see well at night. If I go with a bobber it
    will have to be the flouresent (sp) yellow and orange. 12 years
    at Dec on the tube has not done justice to my eyesight. I am really
    looking forward to the derby. I did pick up a rooster tail and a
    couple of spinners that were mentioned.
    
    Also may I ask even though it is changing the subject- next weekend
    I am going to be staying in N.H. right on the Sacco river. What
    can I expect for spieces of fish up there? It is right in Bartlett.
    
    Thanks 
    Jan
    

     The Saco has a native supply of both rainbow and brook trout. Someone
    claimed it also has brown trout, but I can't confirm that.
    
    The Doctah

    Hey Jan,
       Where is this derby?  What is the name of the club? 
    I haven't had smoked trout in awhile and I am startinig to get
    hungry!!!!!!    Is it an open Derby??  
    
    Les
    

    I'll be up to Winni this weekend (I hope), and will of course be
    fishing. I know there are some pretty decent trout up there, as
    well as land-locked salmon. I know what to use for the salmon, but
    is the trout advice given in this note also applicable to 'big water'
    like Winni?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Ed
    

    Well guys thank you for all your advice but I got skunked. I sttod
    out there for 2 1/2 hours in the dark freezing cold and through
    (threw) all the lures I had bought plus used live bait. I don't
    think I will ever get to be a good lure fisherperson but I will
    keep trying. What made it worse was my husband got 5 and I usually
    always out fish him, boy am I getting the needle. By the way everything
    that was caught was caught on small spinners. And to top it all
    off I broke the tip of my rod, it just wasn't my night!!!!!!
    Jan
    

    
    
    Jan,
    
    Did you try the earing combo we talked about?
    

    
    
    Trout were biting this weekend in RI.  I got five nice brookies
    between 12" and 15" on Friday night before dark.   This
    prompted me to go out again at 6:30 AM on Sat. and I caught 10
    brookies, but never had more than six in my cooler at once,
    since I gave my "shorts" (anythin under 12") to a couple kids
    finshin down stream.  The weather was miserable.
    
    BTW, I caught everyting on worms... no dobber... no sinkers...
    
    The Harbormaster .... strikes again.
    
    

    RE: TBDW I was going to reply with something nasty but I figured
    I wouldn't stoop to your level. So in anwswer to your ?, no I did
    not use that particular lure because you were nice enough to tell
    me it should be used on sandy or rocky bottoms and ssing the ponds
    are turning over they are full of muck. See I ca be nice when I
    want.
    
    Jan
    

    
    Jan,
    
    	Sorry you could not understand what I was trying to tell you.
    This fly bobber is a clear plastic cigar shape bobber.  Its only
    It is not used as a normal bobber.  It is used so you can cast flies
    with a spinning rod.  The line goes through the bobber then you
    tie on a fly.
    
    Let you cast the fly a long distance.  You don't have to be able
    to see it because you fish it like any other plug.
    
    Once again my fingers can not explain my ideas.
    
    Sorry Bassin Bob
    

    
    Ahhh Yesss..... The old bubble and fly setup.... works great!
    
    The Harbormaster has been using this setup since I was a kid,
    it's quite effective on most species.  I use it mostly for
    trout, but I've also caught pan fish and even bass using
    different fly setups. I'll even admit to trying it at 
    Monomonac at the Fall Classic when nothing else was producing.
    
    The Harbormaster.

    Bassin Bob, no appolgy necessary, I really did know what you were
    talking about. I responded wrong. I'm going to keep on trying the
    different lures and my husband ties flies so I will try your
    suggestion. there is a golden trout in the pond worth $25.00 si
    (so) i figure why not. I did catch a small brookie the next day
    but I must admit it was on a piece of marshmallow with a meal worm.
    
    Jan
    

    I've had my best fishing experiences using a clear water bobber
    and a fly.  One afternoon, I picked up 15 brook trout on the same
    nymph in about 1/2 hour.  My largest bass (4.5lbs) came from Lake
    Massapog (sp?) in Sharon, MA (a.k.a. Sharon Lake) on a brown/red
    wooly worm.  Upon open the fish's stomache, I found it loaded with
    crayfish, so Mr. Bass thought this fly was a baby crawdad.
    
    Tim
    

    Jan, I was wondering if all the trout caught were 18" and above,
    like the ad in the paper claimed?
    
    Thanks
    The Gaffer
    

    First of all what ad???? They only went by weight and the one that
    won was 1 3/4 lbs, I'm not sure how long that would be. I'm curious
    about the ad because this was derby for members only.
    
    Jan
    

    Jan, might have been a different club.  The ad I saw was for the
    club thats located near Townsend Harbour.  I think it's called the
    South Fitchburg Rod and Gun Club.