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837.1 | Bounce it on the BOTTOM! | AD::GIBSON | Lobst'a Ayah | Tue Aug 09 1988 14:09 | 21 |
| Rick.
I like the 14-16 oz Norweigen type jigs for really deep fishing
with a teaser on the trebble hook.
Also rig up a 4 ft leader of 80 to 100 lb test mono with one teaser
on a dropper loop approx 10 to 12 in above your jig.
The teaser can be a surg tube in any color. With a trebble hook
in it.
Be sure to make good knots and use good strong swivles on both ends
The rods and reels and especially the lin supplied by a lot of head
boats are of dubious quality, So if you can borrow one or if you
have your one setup bring it.
You may want to rig up 3 or four Jigs and teasers because if you
loose one it will ruin your day if you don't have a spare.
Good Luck
Walt
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837.2 | BIG JIG = BIG FISH (maybe) | JETSAM::CATALDO | | Tue Aug 09 1988 15:34 | 12 |
| Generally, the amount of current around the bottom in the area
you're fishing, will govern the jig size. I tend to use 17.5 oz.
stainless jigs, but that's mostly because I got a deal on a dozen
of them in Lynn. The party boat there advised me to use 14 oz.,
but I like the bigger jigs for use off Newburyport and Maine.
I have talked to oldtimers who have told me they've even used old
automobile door handles drilled and outfitted with double treble
hooks. My thinking when jigging is the bigger the jig, the bigger
the fish that'll hit it, but I've had Cod 3 lbs. take a 1 lb. jig.
Carlo
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837.3 | where you stand counts too | HPSCAD::WHITMAN | Acid rain burns my BASS | Wed Aug 10 1988 09:17 | 28 |
| re .0
You said the guy catching all the fish was in the front of the boat.
I'm sure no expert, but all of my limited experience has been on the party
boats. It is my observation that most of the fish are caught by people right
at the bowsprit/anchor line and those fishing off the transom. I believe this
phenomenon is due to the current. The boat swings down-current of the anchor.
This means the guy in the bow gets first shot at fish following the current
(therefore more chance of hooking one) and the guys on the transom don't have
to deal with 50 other jigs/baits surrounding theirs because their jigs/baits
are downstream from majority (they also spend more time fishing and less time
untangling lines). I always get to the boat early (at least an hour before
departure) and select the starboard corner of the transom for my position. I
always sharpen the hooks on my bait (jig or bait hook) on the ride out, this is
especially important with jigs because it increases significantly your chances
of foul hooking a 'curious' fish as well and the 'hungry' fish. With the
exception of my last trip, I've almost always been in contention for the
lunker-pool and I've never been completely skunked.
If you're going to jig, buying or borrowing a rod/reel with dacron line
will increase your chances because the monofilament line supplied on rental
rods stretches alot when you've got 250' of line out. With mono if you lift
your rod 4', you've only moved the jig 2' (if you catch my drift). Having said
that, I have been too cheap to spend $50 - $75 for a boat rod and have so far
depended on the boat rods for my catches.
Good luck and have a great time.
Al
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837.4 | Gentlemen, Sharpen Your Hooks ! | CIMAMT::DOWNING | | Wed Aug 10 1988 09:32 | 2 |
| What do you use to sharpen hooks that big? A file or some off-the-shelf
sharpener? If a file, what size and type?
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837.5 | files about an inch wide work well | VIDEO::LEVESQUE | I fish, therefore I am. | Wed Aug 10 1988 10:06 | 18 |
| I use a regular old triangular shaped file. It works real well
on medium to large hooks. You can use a bastard file, or any other
file that is reasonably compact and has enough teeth to do the job.
They sell hook sharpening files
for about $5-6 but you can get something that will work as well
at a hardware store for less. The only thing to keep in mind is
the longer the file, the harder it is to sharpen small hooks
that bend back upon themselves.
I use a 16-17 oz jig unless I'm inshore, when I use a 6 or a 9.
Guys who go on trips to Cashes ledge tell me that they use up to
35 oz jigs- and catch monsters! Sounds like alot of work to me-
jigging 2 lbs of lead for hours. But I guess the results speak for
themselves.
The Doctah
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837.6 | May be helpfull | VICKI::DODIER | | Wed Aug 10 1988 11:10 | 17 |
| I recently heard of this but haven't tried it. A person in my
archery league was telling me he places a long shanked hook on the
front split ring of the jig (where you tie your line to). He then
takes some clear plastic tubing and slides it over the hook so that
it on the shank part of the hook. He takes a lunker light (small
cyclume (sp?) stick) and slides it in the middle of the tubing and
ties off both ends of the tubing to keep the lunker light in place.
He claims that they dramatically increase his catch. I guess
this sort of makes sense when you think about how much light there
is in 200'+ of water.
Let me know if you wind up trying it and your results.
RAYJ
The lunker lights can probably be found in sporting goods and
department stores and were about $2 for a few of them as I remember.
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837.7 | STAY ON SHORE | FREEBE::FBOUCHER | | Wed Aug 10 1988 12:10 | 14 |
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RICK,
I've seen you fish. I don't think jig size, or where you
stand in the boat will make any difference for you. You will
be skunked like always. Maybe if you went to the New England
Aquarium and stood over the tank with a big net you might have
some luck. If you decide to go, give me a call, I'll come and
take pictures. Also freshen up on your sea sickness notes.
I hear the water in those tanks can get kinda crazy sometimes.
Yank em hard Rick.
Fred
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837.8 | Light my fire! | AD::GIBSON | Lobst'a Ayah | Wed Aug 10 1988 13:22 | 30 |
| Calume or hoewever you spell it?
I just bought a doz. at Spags and have yet to try them out. They
were under a buck each so I thought they would be a good thing to
have on the boat for the following things.
1) Tie one each to a life vest in case someone falls over at night.
( That makes a better target for sharks and bluefish )
2) Use them while night diving to locate other divers and to scare
yuppie yachters .
3) Troll behind the boat for Tuna. I've got some green ones !!
4) Never thought of jigging for cod with one? maybe try it for the
Halibut!
5) Great toys for the kids to play with instead of fire works or
flares
6) you could even tie a red one to port and a green one to starbord
in case your running lights burnt out, or you are too cheep to
have nav lts.
7) they would make great markers on a chunk of foam for drift fishing
a ridge at night.
Any other uses????
Walt
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837.9 | Same only smaller | VICKI::DODIER | | Thu Aug 11 1988 11:17 | 6 |
| re:9
Sounds like you bought the bigger version of the same thing.
The ones that I had seen where only a couple inches long and about
1/4" in diameter.
RAYJ
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837.10 | Jig info update. | COGVAX::LABAK | Check It Out | Mon Aug 15 1988 10:20 | 24 |
| Thanks for all the reply's to my note.
Advance Networks, out of Waltham chartered the boat for it's
customers. We left thursday morning from Plum Island (Can't remember
the name of the boat). It was a 78 footer with about 65 people on
board.
RE. .1 Everyone on the boat was given a cod rig with bait. Before
I left I bought a 21oz jig and a couple lime green teaser's. I
had the mate tie me a drop loop which I connected the teaser to.
I used the jig most of the day.
RE. .7 I never had a chance to pick up one of those florescent tube's.
The tackle store I bought the jig at didn't have any.
RE. .8 Fred, next time I go I'll take you with me to show
you how it's done. I caught 4 cod. One was 8.5 lb, which
was the biggest fish caught on the boat. I won the $60.00
pool with that baby. I won't be invited when Advance Networks
goes out next year, they want to give there other customers
a chance. I represented DIGITAL #1 again...
Rick L.
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837.11 | Jigs | TOOK::SWEET | Capt Codfish...Looking for Mr. Tuna | Mon Aug 15 1988 13:27 | 12 |
| I carry jigs from 6 to 17.5 ounces on the boat and use several makes
from chrome to stainless. I have caught many cod that were
considerably smaller than the jig they hit (yes a mouth hook).
If you are fishing with many other people (party boat) it may make
sense to use a heavier jig than everyone else since you will get
to the bottom faster and therefore catch the fishes attention.
On small boats I fish as light as I can get away with with the tide.
After this year I favorite the 14oz stainless fishied with two tube
teasers. Can't wait for the water to cool off so the cod come back,
but with how warm it has been that will take until xmas.
Bruce
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837.12 | SOUNDS KINDA FISHY???? | FREEBE::FBOUCHER | | Tue Aug 16 1988 10:04 | 10 |
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RICK,
I have pictures of you at the New England Aquarium the Wed.
night before you went fishing. Sounds kinda fishy???? I take it
the big net worked. Give me $30.00 and I won't send the pictures
to Advance Networks.
Fred
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