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Title:Fishing Notes- Archived
Notice:See note 555.1 for a keyword directory of this conference
Moderator:DONMAC::MACINTYRE
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Sep 20 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1660
Total number of notes:20970

828.0. "Seasickness:Grin and Bear It?" by CIMAMT::DOWNING () Wed Aug 03 1988 09:47

    There have been a few times where I've gone out deep sea fishing
    and it's been rough enough to cause alot of wooziness (just short
    of outright seasickness). Other than limiting booze intake (perish
    the thought), going on a full stomach, and taking Dramamine (which
    knocks you out), are there any other preventives? What about
    scopolamine patches? Are they available w/o a prescription? Do they
    work?
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828.1BPOV02::J_AMBERSONWed Aug 03 1988 09:559
      There are several things you can do to avoid premature chumming.
    Don't go out on an empty stomach.  Saltine crackers work great for
    this.  Don't spend alot of time below deck.  Stay up top in the
    fresh air where you can see something besides four walls.  Keep
    busy.  Drink something carbonated.  If others are sick, avoid them.
    Catch fish
    
    Jeff (who managed some amazing chum slicks when working on the
          swordfishing boat)
828.2I hate when that happensVIDEO::LEVESQUEI fish, therefore I am.Wed Aug 03 1988 10:0832
    I know what you mean- there have been alot of times that my stomach
    felt unhappy with me while I was miles offshore, yet I have never
    chummed while at sea (knock on wood). I usually have a few :-) beers
    when I go out, and they never seem to contribute to this effect;
    actually they seem to calm my stomach. Before you go out, you should
    definitely eat, and what you eat has alot to do with how you feel
    once you're out there.
    
     I suggest that you not eat eggs; most of the people that I know
    that have trouble say it's worse when they have eggs for breakfast.
    I sometimes have trouble with sweet things, many have trouble with
    OJ. Sometimes I will eat something light before I leave, then have
    a sandwich or apple on the ride out. 
    
     I have never taken Dramamine, but alot of people complain about
    somnolence after ingestion. I have heard very favorable reports
    on the ear patches. I'm pretty sure that you need a prescription
    for them, though.
    
    The Doctah
    
    PS- One very effective method (so I'm told :-)) that does not require
    a prescription that has been used by sailors for centuries is the
    smoking of the proverbial "joint". I have been told by glaucoma
    patients that it is pretty effective in combatting seasickness.
    SportFishing Mag had an article a couple of months ago and they
    included the weed as a preventative used for eons. No prescription
    needed, just a neighborhood street corner :-). This method is NOT
    recommended if you are wearing the Captains hat, however. And to
    stop you guys before I get attacked, I am not advocating lawlessness
    etc.- I am just answering the question with all available means.
    Whatyou decide to do on your own time is nobody's business.
828.3Nature's remedyWFOV12::EDRYWed Aug 03 1988 11:0114
    Over the last few years the most effective preventative for seasickness
    for me has been ginger root.  Its available in most large supermkts.
    I peel off the skin, then thinly slice slivers of it.  To prevent
    it turning black from the air as an apple will I throw some lemon
    in which also helps the taste.  I believe the principle behind its
    effectiveness is that as in dramamine and the patch that it is a
    diuretic that lowers the level of fluid in the inner ear that will
    cause motion sickness.  
    
    Two or three hours before the trip I chew the root or just place
    a quarter size piece of it inside the cheek.  The only side effect
    for me is more frequent urination.  Agreed the best antidote is
    catching fish, but this will work...
    
828.4CHUMHEADS UNITE!VENOM::HOUTZWed Aug 03 1988 11:2919
    The ear patches work.  You do need a prescription, but it's easy
    to get from any Doctor (or, Nurse).  There is a side effect however.
    The patch causes a terrific case of "cotton-mouth", which lasts
    as long as you have the patch on.
    
    Dramamine will really knock you out.  You'll sleep forever (maybe
    while fishing) after trying one of these beauts.  
    
    The best solution of all is just to 'go with the flow'.  Go ahead
    and 'chum' over the side until you get it out of your system.
    Eventually, your inner ear will get used to the motion and you'll
    be OK.  By the way, if you start to feel it, the best thing to do
    is to focus on the horizon, this helps to calm your inner ear's
    lack of equalibrium.  The worst thing you can do is go below to
    the head.  The motion in a small, enclosed space will really get
    you going fast.
    
    The "Missouri Midge"
    
828.5don't feel a thing!SUNRIZ::JBONINWed Aug 03 1988 13:056
    Take your mind off your stomach, drink more beer!!! :-)
    
    
    
    
    John
828.6Just throw up!SHIGEO::SASAKIMarty Sasaki LTN1-1/D07 226-6011Wed Aug 03 1988 13:389
    I usually just look forward to throwing up. Feel loads better once
    I have done it, and usually only do it the first time out. If I
    don't throw up the first time, then I usually do the second, etc.
    
    The other alternative is to catch fish. When catching fish I never
    feel nausea. All this requires is finding a captain that will always
    take you somewhere where you can catch fish.
    
    	Marty
828.7More crackersCIMNET::GAFFNEYNASCAR **** 600 HORSEPOWERWed Aug 03 1988 13:405
    Another vote for saltines or soda crackers.  Start eating when they
    fire up the engines.  Has never failed me, knock on wood.
    
    Brian
    
828.8Raw Oysters, Yea thats the ticket!AD::GIBSONLobst'a AyahWed Aug 03 1988 14:3112
    Saltines and sardines with cold beer will keep your lunch in place.
    Dramimine is also good but, Yes you tend to fall asleep. Ok as long
    as your not driving the boat.
    
                                Pass the Beer nut. 
    
    Oh. Reefer is good for sea sickness, with the new Coast guard policy
        if they find it on your boat They Confiscate the boat. Then
        you don't have to worry about getting sick again!
    
                                               Walt
    
828.9try BONINE...TARKIN::GOODYThe answer is ...... 42.Wed Aug 03 1988 14:3612
    There is something out now called BONINE. It's not supposed to make
    you tired like dramamine. If you have a few beers, you'll get tired
    anyway, no matter what you take.
    I tried it last time out and it worked well.....I think.
    It's one of those things...would I have gotten sick had I not
    taken it??? Who knows. 
    I have gotten sick before when I didn't take anything, so I
    figure it's worth it not to take chances.
    Bonine is chewable, also. Chew one on the ride to the place.
    Swallow one when you get to the boat.
    Have some crackers or pretzels on the ride to the spot and have
    a beer when you start fishing.
828.10father of the four winds, fill my sails!SCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGEWorm fishermen have stiffer rodsWed Aug 03 1988 17:0713
    YO,
        A hit of windowpane washed down with a several shots of mescal
    followed by heavy beer drinking and a dozen tranks is a trick used
    by the old pirates. Now you know why they dressed like that and
    why many had eye patches. By keeping one eye closed they could keep
    things in focus better! They never got seasick either. Have a nice
    "trip".
                                                NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~~~~~~~~
    - my thoughts are; you either have sea legs
                       or you do not. Regardless, eat prior, drink beer
                                      during, stay outside, and watch
                                      the horizon are good tips. NEVER
                                      lie down.
828.11Orange Works, I thinkPCCAD1::RICHARDJBluegrass,Music Aged to PerfectionThu Aug 04 1988 09:3213
    One time when I was out on a party boat, my brother got sea sickness.
    An old man sitting next to him gave him an orange, and made a hole
    in the peal of the orange, and told him to slowly suck the juice
    out. It worked, but I'm willing to bet it had a placebo effect,
    so it will probably only work if you tell someone else to use it.

    Best bet is to have a couple of dept chargers (wiskey & beer) before
    you get on the boat, the motion will start before you are on the boat,
    so you'll be used to it. If you don't make it onto the boat before
    getting sick, you'll know you shouldn't be going out to sea to begin
    with.
    
    Jim
828.12Heres an idea that could goodWILLEE::CORTISThu Aug 04 1988 13:0533
    
    When my son and I went whale watching, the crew passed out these
    braclets that had two beads on them.
    
    When one started to feel like they were getting sick, you just put
    this braclet on your wrist and the feeling went away. Out of the
    all the people on the boat (50 maybe??), ten felt bad. All put the
    braclet on and it worked for all except one poor lady.
         
    What seems to happen is that the beads put pressure on a couple
    of nerves in you wrist that calms whatever makes you feel bad.
    
    Must be somthing along the lines of accupuncture. My wife is in
    Physical Therapy and says that they use a device that works on the
    same principal but with electricty to inhibit certin musscles from
    feeling pain by blocking a nerve path. This path can be in a different
    place then the group your working with. Such as the wrist for the
    stomach.
    
    The crew passed the braclets out for free during the cruise but
    you could buy them for three bucks if you wanted them. Most people
    seemed to buy them after the trip.
    
    No experience with them, just observation. And the added plus is
    that you don't have to take them before you go on the boat. Just
    put them on when you start feeling bad, and the nerve block is there.
    Of course the two beads must be place just so, but it appeared that
    it was not difficult. As I recall the beads went on the inside of
    your wrist.
    
    Just a thought,
    
    Barry
828.13or chicken heads stuck in your ears?SCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGEWorm fishermen have stiffer rodsThu Aug 04 1988 14:513
    YO,   
        Or try the ORBS OF MEETZOR......
                                           NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~~~~~~~
828.14bear it or wear itSCOMAN::KERSWELLMon Aug 08 1988 09:039
    
    
    grin and bear it
    
       or
    
    close your eyes and wear it!!!!!
    
    gotta go getting tippsey
828.15Say What?CANNAY::RIOPELMon Aug 08 1988 10:513
    Gee, Sounds like another good rational argument for a bigger boat!!!!
    
    Mike. "Old Soul"
828.16bettor than selling buicksWR2FOR::DODDS_JATue Aug 09 1988 15:285
    Try Marazine in stead of Dramamine.  I have seen many fishermen
    still chum after taking dramamine.  Marazine is much more effective
    and does not have the sleep effect that dramamine has.  Just ask
    your drugist for it.