Conference wahoo::fishing

    Hello;
    I have moved, I am no longer at LTN-2  I am know out in Hudson and
    my new node is NULL::Gibson.
    
    This weekend I close on my new boat and will be picking it up weather
    permiting on april 16th. Its in old Saybrook and I will make the
    run up to Newburyport; If anyone has made this trip I welcme comments
    
    I would like to mention somthing on chippin in for gas,bait,beer
    or whatever. If you are not a C.G. licenced Capt. 6pack or more
    heed caution. Do not accept any donations toward any expence until
    you are safely back at the dock and every one is on terra-firma.
    
    The C.G. regulations state that any contribution toward operating
    a vessel shale constitute the use off said vessel to be ingaged
    in commercial enterprise and the operator shall be liable for having
    a licenced Capt. in control of vessel.
    
    In other words you whould be responcible for any loss or injury
    to passangers and your insurance would not pay because you were
    operating a charter without a licence.
    
    I am planning to get my Capt licence 6 Pack this year so I need
    as much operating time as possible. Regs say 365 days at sea, I
    am almost there but need a few more logs.
    
    Anyway a good way to get around Expence is this.---Have everyone
    agree that in case the Coasties Board you(I was boarded last summer)
    NO ONE has given you any payment; Because they hav'nt.
    
    ALL CONTRIBUTIONS will be welcome when the boat is returned from
    the trip and everybodys safe. CASH ONLY!!!
    
    We will have to get together to crew for each other. Where is you
    boat berthed? and what is she called.
    
                                           Walt Gibson
    
                                           (Rainbow Chaser)
                                            Dracut,Ma
    
                                             City boat works marina
                                             Newburyport Ma.
    

    I run my boat out of Charlestown and would be interested in being
    part of a fleet.  That's Charlestown, RI.  I normally try for 
    Yellow Fin and would be happy to share news with this "select bunch"
    of ardent fishermen.  I would not reccomend a trip without doing
    a fair amount of up front scouting of hot spots, etc.
                                               
    Even when the fish are all over the locals are reluctant to give
    out any info about how and where the action is.  LORAN points,
    that is highly sensitive data.  I wish the military kept their
    mouths as shut.

    I have had this Idea mentioned to me by a few people and I was
    woundering if any of you had tried it and what were the results,
    
    The genral Idea is to have someone on the bow of the boat Harpoon
    style with a Shotgun,Rifle or high powered handgun or Bow with fish
    arrow. This seems plausible as I just recived the new Navy Arms
    catalog and the have a high powered harpoon gun that would defintly
    do the job.
    
    The question is do Tuna (bluefin) float for a while after they are
    killed? If not I think I would cry seeing that much money sink .
    
     Comments??   Sugestions??
                                                walt
    

    Swordfish sink.

    Re .4>
    
    	It would probably work but it is illegal. Harpoons are to be
    hand thrown only. The fine for violation of Tuna fishing regulations
    is $25,000 (not something to be taken lightly).
    
    Paul

    I am glad to see that harpoons other than hand thrown are illeagal
    for tuna. It seems very unsporting and it would not take to long
    for the tuna to the same way as the whales or worse. I fish because
    I like (love) to. If I can catch something that helps defer the
    cost of fishing then that is great, but I think as soon as you start
    fishing with $$ in mind you take someting away from it.
    
    Bruce

    It was just a thought guys. So whats the best way to calm down 1000Lbs
    of angry fish to be able to get it in the boat?
    
    Baseball Bat ? Yea thats the ticket.
    

    Half the fun is gettin 'em in the boat.  8*)  
    
    Jeff

re::< Note 654.9 by BPOV09::JAMBERSON >-< Brute strength and ignorance. >-

Yeah I hear that Jamberson guy uses a gin pole to bring in 
mackere and he thinks lilly is a cup company.
norm

    Hey Norm,
      I can bring the strength if you can bring the ignorance.
    
    Jeff

	Re .9>
	
	How does one get a monster fish on board a small boat without a 
gin pole or a Tuna door? Last summer I landed an 11 ft long Maco shark. 
Based on what I could find out after the fact from pictures etc I guess 
it went 750# to 900#. After about an hour of trying to get it on board I 
gave up and ended up cutting slabs of meat off the thing as best I could 
while it was still mostly outboard of the boat. This was all complicated 
by the fact that it was getting dark and I was 25 miles from my mooring 
and anxious to get home. I think my crew was about to mutiny also.
	This year I thought that I might rig up a gin pole but I don't want 
anything amateurish hanging off my boat which will detract from its value,
especially since its use will be so limited. Has anyone out there figured 
out a solution to this problem, or does everyone just tow them home or bum 
a hoist from a nearby boat?

Paul

    re .-1
    
    Paul,
    
    I'm going to try using a couple of heavy duty come-a-longs.  If
    that doesn't work, I'm going to tie anything large outside for the
    ride home.  Of course this is all speculation at this point.
    I went codfishing on stellwagon this past saturday.  Good day of
    fishing, and the big macks are here. 
    
    joe a
    

    Paul,
    
      Two ways to get'em home.
    
    1.  Drag'em
    
    2.  a block n tackle to help get as much of the fish in the boat
    as you can.  We had a rig that we used in conjuncton with a pot
    hauler.  We were able to boat sword fish up to 800lbs with it. 
    you run the tag end of the block and tackle around the pot hauler.
    Worked for us.
    
    Good luck and hope you get plenty of chances to "invent a system".
    
    Jeff
         

    What would be the problem with tieing a Bluefin onto the dive platform?
    
    I can see the advantage of not having to lift it on board.
    
    How about putting the fish in a rubber dingy? and towing it back.
    This would work for smaller boats without the space for a large
    fish,and the fish could be Iced down in the raft and covered with
    a wet canvas to keep it cool.
    
    I may give this last Idea a try myself. When I get a big Tuna this
    summer.
                                               Walt
    

Ok everybody the first trip is on for the 8th of July. Plan is
find some sharks.
Now how do we decide on whom out of the list gets asked first 
etc? I think the list below is in the order of answers to the 
original note does anyone have a problem with that?
How is this
1. Take the top six on the list
2. anybody going moves to the bottom of the list
3. anybody not going stays at the top for the next week.
I gotta know about for sure by Tuesdays PM so we do not end up with 
an empty boat.
Please send me mail on rex::burbine and I will post those going
as a reply to this note. I realize the 8th of July is still a 
little time away but think now is the time to work out the bugs 
ok?
norm

Rules:1. No BOOZE till we return to the dock,gas up and clean up.
      2. Leave the dock at 0700 return about 1630.
      3. Crew divides expenses( gas should be about 100-150 
         gallons, expenses includes lost boat tackle)
      4. Bring your own food and beverage
      5. Bring tackle if you want(if you do not have any use 
         mine) 
            
____________________________________________________
'Fish-88-Project'  --for lack of a better name.

SMURF::AMATO!joe_24grady
FEISTY::TOMAS!Joe
JOULE::GIBSON!walt_ltn_2!now AD
MTBLUE::OKERHOLM_PAU!paul 
TOOK::SWEET!capt_codfish_bruce
YAZOO::M_MESSIER
HPSCAD::BPUISHYS!"Bob Puishys"
BPOV09::JAMBERSON
DARTS::WIERSUM!The Back Deck Wizard
CASV01::MMCNULTY!mike
CASV01::WEATHERBEE!rick weatherbee
FISHN::GOODY!mike
BEOWLF::RIEU!denny  "You have my WORD on it!"
MLCSSE::RIOPEL!mike_'old soul'_new_bedford

    You guys are playing my tune/singing my song. I'm definitely interested
    in getting together with you guys and catching sharks or tuna. 
    Sign me up. I can't go on the July 8th trip (serious possibility
    of divorce), but I'll be able to go on a later trip. Also-
    since I'm going sharking on July 2nd, I'll pay attention this time
    and get some LORAN numbers for us. Maybe I'll even be able to weasel
    a few extra numbers out of the Capt.
    
    VIDEO::LEVESQUE
    
     The Doctah

    Norm,
    
    The 8th is bad for me.  Just like the doc, if I go then I'll be
    living in my cuddy cabin with my flying gaff for company.  I'm in
    the cuttyhunk marlin tourney the week after, that's why I can't
    be there.  By the way, the tourney has no entry fee.  Just gotta
    find a place to stay since cuttyhunk's filled up for the weekend.
    I'm just gonna anchor somewhere to get my zzz's.  The marlin fishing
    will be at the dump.  Norm, why don't you enter, it is free.  Dredge
    up some of the guys and meet me down there.  There'll be 3 divisions
    for prizes.  Think about it and let me know.  At the least I might
    swing by on my way through the canal or on Sunday on my way home.
    
    joe a.
    

    Sorry Norm.
    My wife's vacation week. Maybe the week after? That tourny sounds
    good. I'll crew with you if you want to do it, Lets get some more
    info from Joe.
    
                                                  Walt
    

re: < Note 654.17 by VIDEO::LEVESQUE "I fish, therefore I am." >
                               -< Can I enList? >-

Hello Doctah,
Yes you may enlist and glad to have you along.
Don't let Tony see you trying to get his numbers or he may get a 
little upset. What time of day do you leave the dock in Falmouth
when you fish with Capt Tollentino?
Also what does he charge for a day?
norm

    Norm, Walt,
    
    I was going to do the tourney, but all potential crew can't make
    it!  Capt squid's lame excuse was closing on a house?  These guys'll
    think up any excuse not to go fishing!  Anyway, if I can scrape
    someone up (that's all my boat can sleep), the poop is:
    
    Capt's meeting 6pm thurs night (7/14) for rules/regs/loran #'s 
    Friday/Saturday tourney fishing 
    Sunday come home
    
    There are 3 divisions
    	marlin		tag and release
    	yellowfin
    	bluefin
    
    I don't think that there's any cost to enter the tournament.  But
    he said something about $100/division.  I think he was referring
    to large fish pool.  I'll find out more.  The prizes are equipment.
    100 boats had signed up, he figures that 60'll show.  Sizes run
    from a 20' Grady White center console, to a 65' hatteras (not a
    center console).  All slips are filled.  Supposedly there's plenty
    of room to just drop an anchor.  I'm not sure of anything else at
    this time.  Oh yeah, its run by the Fisherman's Outfitter in Danvers
    Mass, and being held at Cuttyhunk Island.  

    Re 654.20
    
     Great Norm!
    
    Glad to be aboard. I'll grab the nummy nums when Tony is in the
    tower. We left last year around 5:30 - 6:00 when we went ion august.
    During the time after 5:30 and before 6:00, we procured fresh pogies
    with a cast net. We finally reached our destination around 8:15-8:30.
    This year it's gonna cost 6 bills for the boat. We'll probably tack
    on 75 for the tip. Tony's a great guy, so I don't really want to
    take advantage of him, but he's got the numbers. I, of course, will
    NOT be publishing them in this file for general use. But whomever
    I go with will be lucky enough to get them. What the heck, I'm going
    on 3 trips with him this summer. I think that kind of cash deserves
    a few numbers, don't you?
    
    The doctah (who'll_be_playing_spy)