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599.1 | Boat loader | HELIX::COTHRAN | | Tue Feb 09 1988 10:27 | 27 |
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Note 599.0 CAMPING N' BOATING QUESTION No replies
PLDVAX::BUSHEE "George Bushee" 14 lines 9-FEB-1988 08:57
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> I tried asking this in the RV conference, but
> I guess none of the people there are fishermen.
Sorry George. I was one that said I would get back to you.
> The camper is a 10 foot unit that overhangs the rear of the truck by
> a couple of feet, covering the step-n-tow bumper(my hitch).
I've found in the LL Bean "Sporting" Cataloge, and also in
the latest Sears Cataloge. It's called a boat loader. The
pole that is used is 54" long, (if I remember it can be extened to
that lengh. The pictures show it loading ontop of a car. Not
sure if it will work for a camper. I'll bring in the ad in
tomorrow and post the description. The price in both cataloges was
34.95, give or take a couple bucks.
Bryan
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599.2 | | VIKING::MACINTYRE | In search of the Largemouth Bass... | Tue Feb 09 1988 10:39 | 7 |
| If putting it on top is too much trouble, for a few more bucks you
can get a small trailer - Calkins sells a small boat trailer for
under $300 -- and mounting a step-down hitch plate to the bottom
of the rear bumper should solve the bumper overhang problem...
Don Mac (heading for Okeechobee for some camping and boating of
his own in 43 days, but who's counting)
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599.3 | few more questions | PLDVAX::BUSHEE | George Bushee | Tue Feb 09 1988 11:41 | 12 |
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RE: .1
Is the "lift" mentioned just a lift, or a lift/holder
combo? Off the top of my head I don't recall the exact
height of the truck/camper, but it is around ten feet.
Add another two or so feet to that with the boat on top
and I might be in trouble(?) with bridges and such? How
does it handle the wind currents found atop of a camper?
Thanks again,
G_B
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599.4 | Just Guessing | MTBLUE::OKERHOLM_PAU | | Tue Feb 09 1988 12:05 | 15 |
| I think that even with a box type trailer hitch, extending the
ball out 2' would be a bit much. I also think that getting the boat
up on a ten foot high roof would be very difficult. I bet you could
fashion some sort of bracket to permit mounting the boat on the side
of the camper but I don't know if you want to get into that kind
of hassle.
My vote would be for the roof mount as the least of these
three evils. I believe that trailer truck boxes are 14' high so I don't
think you will have difficulty with most bridges (Definately check
this out to be sure). Tree branches etc. on the other hand may be a
problem.
I know this isn't much help, but I think in this case even
the best solution will still result in a fair amount of aggravation.
Paul Who_hopes_his_pessimistic_observations_are_wrong.
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599.5 | hauling boat with pickup camper | CSMADM::CONROY | | Tue Feb 09 1988 16:34 | 12 |
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Most
of the folks who go to the cape for striper/blue fishing and spend
the weekend camping on the beach take their boat along. Since many
are carrying 10-11 1/2 foot campers on their pickups, they extend
the bumpers at a local welding shop. They also use the space between
the camper and the new bumper location to put a plywood shelf on
which they carry a spare tire. I will take some pictures of the
rig and send them to anyone who requests.
Mike
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599.6 | I'd like to see it!! | ANGORA::BUSHEE | George Bushee | Wed Feb 10 1988 09:37 | 11 |
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RE: .5
Yes, I'd like to see a picture of this setup, I'm really not
fond of the idea of putting anything on the roof if I can help
it.
My maile stop is: LMO2/E05
many, many thanks
George Bushee
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599.7 | But is it SAFE? | HPSTEK::CYGAN | | Wed Feb 10 1988 09:54 | 23 |
| Extending the bumper another couple of feet might sound like a great
option for you, but be VERRRRY CAREFUL that you don't adversely
shift the center of balance (Horizontally) too far back. You COULD
find yourself sitting upright on the tail of your camper if you
hit some severe road excursions, (or off-road conditions), if it's
too far back.
Granted, I've seen people do some VERY strange things, and this
sounds like it fits that category. My suggestion is to see if you
can find a reputable R/V dealer who's experienced in installing
hitches, who will install the extension for you. If you find one
who will do the work, and guarantee no loss of stability, it's safe
to assume you've got a stable platform! You might also look into
what the state police feel about such rig's (before smokey gives
that ticket).
Just some words of caution. By the way....ever thought about buying
a fol-boat or inflatable? I've seen several fold-boats (folded down
the middle) strapped to truck camper sides. It'a always an option.
Hope you find a SAFE solution to your problem!!!
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599.8 | | DARTS::WIERSUM | The Back Deck Wizard | Thu Feb 11 1988 08:07 | 6 |
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George..
barrow the TEXICANS green monster, throw in the boat and tow them
both.
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599.9 | Why spend money? | BPOV09::MROWKA | | Thu Feb 11 1988 09:03 | 5 |
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If no one is riding in the camper while you are traveling... and
it is only a ten foot boat... maybe you could just put it inside
the camper for the trip to and from your campsite?
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599.10 | Back to the dealer I guess | PLDVAX::BUSHEE | George Bushee | Thu Feb 11 1988 09:42 | 20 |
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RE: .9
I had thought of doing just that until I measured the
inside dimensions. It will fit, but only if it's tipped
up inside so the bow of the boat goes up into the top
bunk area. I don't care for this idea too much for I feel
it'll end up trashing the inside of the camper. Hey, I
only paid $100 for the boat and a couple of grand for the
camper. The inside of the camper looks pretty much like
new and I'd like to keep it that way. I am starting to wish
I had bought a tent trailer instead of the camper, atleast
I wouldn't have to worry about bringing the boat. :^>
Guess it's time to head back to the dealer and see what he
suggests (tho, I do hate the thought of the cost with that).
Thanks again,
G_B
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599.11 | one man boat loader | THRUST::COTHRAN | | Thu Feb 11 1988 16:59 | 30 |
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Okay, i got the poop. It's out of a Sears catalog (Boating
and Fishing). LL Bean had same one for same price.
Page 59 item #16 read like this....
One-man boat loader fits standard hitches. Vinyl coated steel
clamp adjusts to hold boat at transom. 54" steel pole, tightens
without tools. Requires 1 carrier bar not included. Price 39.99
The carrier bar is item #14 each is 22.99; two for 36.98. My
guess is that you could find one cheaper.
The description does not say it can be used on a camper or
either item. My guess is that the poll is no were long
enough for what you're looking for.
This catalog also has trailers listed on page 54. A quick
description of two trailers with a capacity of up to 600lbs follows:
The 600lbs capacity trailers have an adjustable keel roller, 24" leaf
springs and 4.80x8" tires; trailer (a) measures 15' 3" x 56" ans is
designed for use with boats from 10.5' to 14.5'. Trailer (b) is same
as (a) except for ....measures 11' 9" x 56" ans is designed for use
with boats up to 10.5' long. Price of (a) = 449.99, (b) = 399.99
there is listed two other type trailers, capacity of 1200 and
730 lbs.
Bryan
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599.12 | Camper Roof Mounts Work | WORSEL::DOTY | ESG Systems Product Marketing | Mon Feb 22 1988 22:08 | 30 |
| I've carried a 12' aluminum boat on top of an 11' camper for close
to 20 years. The truck is a Ford 4 door, 1 ton pickup, so it has
no problem with the weight. The rig has gone too and from Alaska,
through Canada, and from the East coast to the West coast.
We have not had any stability problems, and no clearance problems
on major roads. Filling stations are a different story -- either
stay away from covered pumps, or have someone check clearance!
We had a custom carrier welded up, consisting of vertical "U" channels
that bolt to the camper sides and pieces of 1" pipe going across
the top. Any welding shop should be able to handle this fairly
cheaply.
The major problem is loading and unloading the boat -- takes two
people to wrestle it on and off.
The only real problem that we have had is that constantly walking
across the top of the camper opened some roof seams and caused leaks.
If you have a one piece roof, this shouldn't be an issue.
I am currently in the process of upgrading to a trailer hitch.
A frame extension made of heavy C-channels can easily be added,
and a standard frame mount for a pickup bolted on.
For ease of use, a trailer is far easier than loading/unloading
from the roof.
Regards,
Russ Doty
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